DanInUticaTampa Posted March 15 Posted March 15 55 minutes ago, SCBills said: Safety at 28 and I will smash my tv. Amen to this. No way I would be happy with a safety at 28. 1 Quote
DrMaxPower Posted March 15 Posted March 15 When this leads to Chop Robinson rd1 this place is going nuclear... 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He also costs half as much. So? And he makes 8 times what Shakir does and Shakir is already a better player. The development of Shakir and Kincaid proved to me that we no longer needed to waste FA on WRs from other organizations. Instead we need to draft our own cost controlled talent. I know people here love the shinny new toy. However at best Samuel is our 4th best receiving option (and maybe 5th behind Cook). When the early draft pick outplays him and Samuel becomes our 6th or 7th best option, how will y’all feel about his $8 mill price tag when he’s seeing 3 balls a game? Quote
appoo Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) Think about it this way. Last season the Bills offense was actually relatively easy to defend from a schematic POV, because you only had to defend 30 yards of dirt at most regardless of down and distance. Without even an average deep threat else where, Gabe Davis struggled bigtime as the sole threat downfield, and defenses didn't really adjust a thing. They set either 2 or 1 safety 20 yards down field, one of them went deep, and everyone else sank down. Diggs wasn't that effective of a deep threat, and defenses felt they could run with him past 10-15 yards. With the addition of Samuel, you inject pure speed with addition of being a real football player. It doesn't matter where he lines up, you can attack those safeties from inside or outside. But Samuel will only be PART of that solve. The other part? Someone like Ladd McConkey who's the other deep threat. It allows for versatility. If you're on 1st and 10 or 2nd and medium, you have different packages that can make use of 1 or both deep guys, and you can use that short to intermediate offense that Allen proved he can run this past season. Defenses starting to squat? Well put in both speed guys, add in Diggs and Kincaid to the underneath, and you're either creating deeper mismatches, or forcing zones and YAC openings in the middle and short. This is all about deployment of weapons. Bills can attack any down and distance and create matchups they like Edited March 15 by appoo 4 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, DrMaxPower said: When this leads to Chop Robinson rd1 this place is going nuclear... I’ll be screaming from the top of my roof to fire McDermott lol Beane why!!! You should’ve sent him on an all expenses paid cruise during the draft you moron lol 1 Quote
MPL Posted March 15 Posted March 15 14 minutes ago, appoo said: Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. Ah, yes, good old Gabe "rolls-his-ankles-more-than-an-8th-grade-basketball-player" Davis 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 12 minutes ago, boyst said: Nah. Dude isn't a down field threat. Pretty much the same size as Diggs, and runs a 4.39. But he isn't a downfield threat? Edited March 15 by SoonerBillsFan Quote
SCBills Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: I'm a bit nervous that they will think this is well enough. Plan for the future and get that WR in the first. My real worry is that they view this as making WR optional in RD1. I could 100% see them going DL at 28 and then potentially trading up in RD2. I will be jaw dropped to the floor if they dont go WR in the first 2 rounds. Edited March 15 by SCBills Quote
MPL Posted March 15 Posted March 15 17 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Three if you consider that he is now a Bill. I shall call him William Curtis Samuel. It sounds fitting. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 26 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I was really happy with how this offseason was going, but these two terrible WR signings make me really wonder what Beane is doing for the offense. 1 2 1 Quote
appoo Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, MPL said: Ah, yes, good old Gabe "rolls-his-ankles-more-than-an-8th-grade-basketball-player" Davis I didn't say that? How did you quote me on that? Quote
BeastMaster Posted March 15 Posted March 15 8 minutes ago, ngbills said: Samuel - never wore a bills uniform = Will be an upgrade. that is always the mindset on this board. I think he will be solid. But I also thought crowder and sanders would. We will see but anyone outside of these walls sees Davis as the better player. Davis could never get on the same page as Allen, and it led to key drops and turnovers. We want guys who can catch the ball, and we signed two of them. One a huge target, and the other is very good when he gets the ball in his hands. People complain no matter what. Allen needs help, but you get some and it's just more bitching and moaning Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 By the way, Samuel spent 75% of his time the last two years in the slot. Last I looked that was where Shakir excels. Quote
4merper4mer Posted March 15 Posted March 15 19 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: He had a lot of nagging injuries last year but played through them and still caught 17 more balls than Gabe. I take it you don't like the signing? I’m fine with it but wouldn’t be shocked it it turns out to be Crowder part two. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, DrMaxPower said: When this leads to Chop Robinson rd1 this place is going nuclear... His @$$ better be a 12 sack per season guy if we are giving up a WR @ #28. Quote
appoo Posted March 15 Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, DrMaxPower said: When this leads to Chop Robinson rd1 this place is going nuclear... Chop is gonna be an elite Pass Rush specialist in this league not long after the draft, and in fact profiles somewhat as Von. There's more than enough speed in this draft to get one in Rd1 or RD2. But if there's a next level talent like Chop available at 29 they take him no questions. Quote
MPL Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, appoo said: 2 minutes ago, MPL said: Ah, yes, good old Gabe "rolls-his-ankles-more-than-an-8th-grade-basketball-player" Davis I didn't say that? How did you quote me on that? No, no, no. I wasn't quoting you. Nicknames are placed inside of parenthesis. Example: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, 4merper4mer said: I’m fine with it but wouldn’t be shocked it it turns out to be Crowder part two. I think you won't be shocked. Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: Still got the 4th and 5th. They would have just given us a 7th rounder anyways just to screw us. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: So? And he makes 8 times what Shakir does and Shakir is already a better player. The development of Shakir and Kincaid proved to me that we no longer needed to waste FA on WRs from other organizations. Instead we need to draft our own cost controlled talent. I know people here love the shinny new toy. However at best Samuel is our 4th best receiving option (and maybe 5th behind Cook). When the early draft pick outplays him and Samuel becomes our 6th or 7th best option, how will y’all feel about his $8 mill price tag when he’s seeing 3 balls a game? This is just ridiculous. This guy is his last 3 healthy seasons puts up about 70 catches a season with Washington’s and Carolina’s QB’s….but he will drop off of a table when he gets Allen at QB? Allen is going to make him worse? 2 Quote
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