QLBillsFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: I didn’t want any WR FAs. The stats show that they usually underperform their contracts and we already have Kincaid, Diggs and Shakir. We have the underneath stuff covered. Samuel is a 650 yards receiver who doesn’t win catch battles. A Rookie receiver drafted 20-40 over the last 5 years has averaged about 700 yards as a rookie. We need someone who can stretch the field, not another mediocre underneath presence. Now play this out. What will the people on this board say if we draft someone like Mitchell or Worthy at 28 and they drive Samuel to the bench? What will they say when Samuel drops some key 3rd down catches, which he does with regularity? They’ll say why did Beane waste money of this guy. I was really happy with how this offseason was going, but these two terrible WR signings make me really wonder what Beane is doing for the offense. Ok well I disagree. You were comfortable with a #1 WR at 28 having more impact than Samuel? I would disagree. Come back and gloat since you have this all planned out. If not can you admit you’re wrong? Cant imagine how you see multiple good receivers as not helping the Bills. Saying they are terrible signings is bit much 🤷🏻♂️… The 2 WR from last year didn’t nearly have the upside Samuel does. Should be a fun offseason for you. Enjoy !! 3 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7. Success % 51.5 Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2. Success % 48 Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything. He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis. Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. 2 1 Quote
That's No Moon Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, GASabresIUFan said: Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7. Success % 51.5 Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2. Success % 48 Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything. He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis. Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. He also costs half as much. 3 Quote
Rocky Landing Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, MPL said: Are we just going to sit here and not even acknowledge that he has two first names?! Three if you consider that he is now a Bill. Quote
JoeF Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) Look at his last year (Junior Year) at the The Ohio State University 1636 yards from scrimmage on 171 touches - 9.56 yards per touch...holy moly...15 touchdowns... Edited March 15 by JoeF Quote
appoo Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, GASabresIUFan said: Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7. Success % 51.5 Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2. Success % 48 Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything. He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis. Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. Project what he can be with Josh Allen and Joe Brady 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, GASabresIUFan said: Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7. Success % 51.5 Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2. Success % 48 Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything. He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis. Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. Don’t forget - Davis $13m a year … Samuel - $8m 4 Quote
muppy Posted March 15 Posted March 15 (edited) 47 minutes ago, SCBills said: Safety at 28 and I will smash my tv. mine will be laptop but if the first goes safety the laptop stands no chance...its going CRACK over my knee. I can't afford that. Brandon please DON'T do that 🙂 Edited March 15 by muppy 2 1 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Oh *****! does he have a bunch of felonies we don't know about? LOL. I’ll bet KC’s the only football team to ever have a player who was charged with a crime. That’s totally unheard of in this sport. Also, I’m not sure where anyone got the idea that Chiefs fans badly wanted Samuel. Haven’t seen/heard anyone say that. 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 15 Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Don’t forget - Davis $13m a year … Samuel - $8m And wasn’t Harty $6-7m? Shouldn’t take much for Samuel to surpass that production. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, QLBillsFan said: Ok well I disagree. You were comfortable with a #1 WR at 28 having more impact than Samuel? I would disagree. Come back and gloat since you have this all planned out. If not can you admit you’re wrong? Cant imagine how you see multiple good receivers as not helping the Bills. Saying they are terrible signings is bit much 🤷🏻♂️… The 2 WR from last year didn’t nearly have the upside Samuel does. Should be a fun offseason for you. Enjoy !! I’d love to be wrong, but I doubt I will be. Go compare Samuel’s stats to Shakir’s. Shakir is taller, has similar speed and is significantly more clutch. Shakir averages 50% more yards per catch than Samuel. What does Samuel being that we don’t already have? Nothing. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, strive_for_five_guy said: And wasn’t Harty $6-7m? Shouldn’t take much for Samuel to surpass that production. Think he signed $5m a year … not one of Beane’s best 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 15 Posted March 15 I'm so glad we were able to sign Deebo Samuel. Now we will finally be able to compete with the chiefs !!! 2 1 Quote
ngbills Posted March 15 Posted March 15 6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said: Davis - Yards/Reception for his career 16.7. Yards/game 42.7. Success % 51.5 Samuel - Yards/reception for his career 10.7. Yards/game 37.2. Success % 48 Not sure how he is an upgrade on anything. He doesn’t stretch the field as well as Davis, he does gain more yards despite more catches, and he doesn’t help 1st downs at a greater rate than Davis. Do you know the other thing he doesn’t do as well as Davis? He doesn’t stay as healthy. Samuel - never wore a bills uniform = Will be an upgrade. that is always the mindset on this board. I think he will be solid. But I also thought crowder and sanders would. We will see but anyone outside of these walls sees Davis as the better player. 2 Quote
The Wiz Posted March 15 Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, SaulGoodman said: LOL. I’ll bet KC’s the only football team to ever have a player who was charged with a crime. That’s totally unheard of in this sport. Also, I’m not sure where anyone got the idea that Chiefs fans badly wanted Samuel. Haven’t seen/heard anyone say that. Welcome to TBD, tell ChefsKingdom we said hi. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 15 Posted March 15 1 minute ago, london_bills said: Looks like a legitimate WR screen threat He also ran for 200 yards (2 TDs) with Brady as OC in Carolina. Quote
boyst Posted March 15 Posted March 15 21 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: McConkey Nah. Dude isn't a down field threat. Quote
london_bills Posted March 15 Posted March 15 Just now, ColoradoBills said: He also ran for 200 yards (2 TDs) with Brady as OC in Carolina. I actually meant end around or running yeah, like he was doing with diggs last season 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted March 15 Posted March 15 8 minutes ago, muppy said: mine will be laptop but if the first goes safety the laptop stands no chance...its going CRACK over my knee. I can't afford that. Brandon please DON'T do that 🙂 I'm a bit nervous that they will think this is well enough. Plan for the future and get that WR in the first. 2 Quote
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