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This is an offseason I'm probably going to largely avoid the national media.  I just don't think they have a clue about what the Bills were, what they are, and what they will be.

 

First of all, I love what Beane is doing as we move into the beginning of the new league year right now.  Release the old and expensive players and retain a few valuable pieces.  All of this in order to get our CAP situation in order moving into future season.  Meanwhile, he's accrued 11 total draft picks as ammunition to go get the guys that he wants.  We aren't drafting 11 guys and you can bet we'll be trading around in the draft to end up with between 7-9 players.  Hopefully 5 or 6 of them turn into SERIOUS contributors in 2024.

 

Pretty sure all of these are what Beane is banking on.

 

But honestly, even without the draft and at a snapshot moment in Free Agency when all the Bills have done is re-sign Jones, Epenesa and Lewis and signed Morrow and Hollins, I think the 2024 Buffalo Bills are set up to be a better team than in 2023.

 

Coaching 

First of all, the Bills revamped their coaching staff almost completely.  They got a lot younger, so some fresh perspectives are likely coming into the fold.  On top of that Joe Brady will have an ENTIRE offseason to build and implement his own offense in Buffalo rather than using Dorsey's offense.  Our OC and DC are young and energetic and infectious by reports from all the players and media.  And what's more, McDermott will still be able to help Babbich grow where he needs to while focusing on more aspects of the team than he was able to last year.

 

Special Teams

Bass had the worst year of his career last year, but was a consistent kicker before that.  I don't think he goes anywhere but up... and bringing Haack in to (possibly????) compete for the punting job might be a sign Beane & Co. believe holding is a notable part of the problem.  And maybe it was????  Remember how bad a holder Bojo was and what happened to the Packers kicking game when he went over there as the punter?  If Haack's our punter... he's not a great punter, but hopefully we don't punt a lot :flirt: Returners are a dime a dozen to me and we have potential returners in Shakir, Isabella and Hamler already on the roster.  I'm sure we'll bring someone else in, too.

 

Offense

 

OL-First of all, 4 out of 5 pieces on our OL will be back.  And the 1 new piece might end up being a familiar face who played a big role on the team last year.  The Bills clearly believe in McGovern as a Center, so I'll trust their judgment.  If Edwards is the LG next to him, I'm fine with that, too.  He was the starting Guard for the Super Bowl champions a few years ago so he has the talent and experience.  Alec Anderson seems like a dark horse to come in and start at that position, though.  We'll still very likely draft a young IOL, though.  Plenty of other young developmental OL talent to be excited about with the likes of Van Demark and Gourage.  and then we'll have what I believe will be one of the best right sides of an offensive line in the NFL with Torrence and Spencer Brown next year.  And Dawkins gonna be Dawkins.  As far as the IOL moves, I was listening to Daniel Jeremiah on his Move the Sticks podcast yesterday and he was saying how he spoke with Brandon Beane relatively recently about OL and Beane was talking about how it's becoming more and more important to have a more stout, strong IOL nowadays than more of an athletic IOL with what's happening on the defensive side with DTs.  I thought it was interesting and seems like that might be a reason for the Morse release and move for McGovern.

 

QB-See above about Joe Brady.  Otherwise, not much needs to be said here.  Let's just hope that our freak QB stays healthy this year and doesn't get injuries that affects his throwing motion the way he did the last 2 seasons.  If he has to sit for a week or 2, I think we should all feel a little better with Trubisky than Kyle Allen

 

WR-See above about Joe Brady.  I think Diggs was hurt in the 2nd half of the season.  I don't know what game that was where he was thrown to the ground, but I think he was playing hurt for awhile.  Yes, he's getting older, but Diggs is still a #1 WR.  He just needs more talent around him, and with Shakir's development last year, we'll likely see him as a bigger part of the offense.  I really think either Isabella or Hamler makes this roster.  I don't know which one, but one of them is going to be our 4th or 5th WR/gadget guy/ returner.  Mack Hollins feels like a roster bubble guy.  Justin Shorter might be the guy to replace Siran Neal as the gunner and will be sitting in the 5th or 6th WR spot.  So a lot depends on who we draft at WR.  And I think everyone knows we're drafting a WR in round 1 or 2.  Whoever it is, let's hope he's better than Gabe.  Long term I think odds are he will be.

 

TE-A healthy Dawson Knox and a year 2 Dalton Kincaid with an entire offseason to work on his game????  Sign me up!!!

 

RB-We all saw the weapon James Cook can be.  Dude just needs to spend plenty of time on the Jugs machine.  RBs are a dime a dozen... we'll find a couple to fill roles and be just fine.

 

Defense

admittedly D is our biggest worry.  But I think we have less to worry about than feared.


DE-Groot was hampered by a foot injury most of last year, which was obvious.  Von was clearly still recovering from his ACL tear, which was obvious.  I expect both to be better in 2024.  I don't really understand those who think Von just all of the sudden sucks.  He had an ACL tear and tried coming back to play full time less than a year after it happened.  Most athletes say they take a couple years to feel like themselves after an ACL tear.  Just ask Tre White.  Epenesa re-signing is exciting!  If he takes another step in 2025 then our top 3 rotational edge rushers would be an upgrade from last year even with Floyd leaving.  I almost anticipate Lawson coming back, but even if he didn't and Jonathan and Kline were our 4th an 5th DEs, that would still be pretty solid depth.

 

DT- Oliver and Jones is a lethal duo.  Just getting Jones back and healthy for a full season will be an upgrade.  And Jones has been pretty healthy for his career up until this past year.  I don't think he missed a regular season game in the previous 5-7 seasons.  But that's it for DTs other than Ankou, who frankly might make the team and just might be an upgrade on Settle/Ford/Phillips.  But we're going to draft at least one and acquire one... maybe post June 1st as our late offseason Floyd signing.  But it's all about Oliver and Jones, really.  We didn't have Daquan most of last season.  If we do in 2024, that's an upgrade.

 

LB-Everything I said above about Daquan Jones and what the impact would be in getting him back is amplified with all of the same stuff for Milano.  Losing Milano last year was the most devastating thing that happened to our team.  He was absolutely unbelievable to start the year.  His injury isn't the kind of injury that lingers once he rehabs and heals, so I'd expect him to be back to himself.  Top that off with the now-known-commodity of Terrel Bernard and we might have the best starting duo of LBs in the league.  Throw in Dorian Williams, who I believe will be used as an X-factor in a league that is shifting more and more towards 3 LB alignments because of the heavier personnel and the LB Unit will already be better in 2024.

 

CB-Our starting CBs are pretty much all studs.  Taron, Rasul and Benford are all really good to exceptional.  I really do think Elam still has a decent shot with this new coaching staff and potentially new (maybe only slightly) system that will utilize some more man principles.  I wouldn't sleep on him finding a way into a significant or even starting role.  When he does get on the field, he makes plays.  We'll draft a CB or 2.  We always do.  The difference will be that there will be room on the roster for them to actually make the team rather than get poached by other teams the way Alex Austin or Nick McLeod were.  And don't sleep on the 2 guys on our PS.  Ingram might make the team to play a critical backup role.

 

S-Personnel-wise, this is likely the position we have to worry about the most.  But at the same time, Sean McDermott throughout his entire career has always turned other teams' trash into his treasure when it comes to the Safety position.  From the Eagles to the Panthers to the Bills, you can go and track all the safeties that have come through those teams and find quality to elite contributors.  It's actually pretty insane the way he does it.  I expect he does it again.  We'll likely get a guy in FA and draft a guy, but I'm really not gonna be shocked if our starting Safety tandem is Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis.  Everyone is going to freak out if that happens.  I won't.  McDermott knows the safety position better than anyone.  I don't even think that's hyperbole.  We'll be good.

 

 

Now... am I predicting Super Bowl???? Heck no!!!  Too many variables always come into play and the playoffs are one-and-done so you just never know.  However, the widespread national narrative and narrative among some on this board is that Buffalo's Super Bowl Window is closed and what we're seeing this offseason is the start of a rebuild.

 

Not a rebuild folks,  We're re-tooling.  And the tools we'll have in 2024 will be sharper, shinier and more effective!!!  I can't wait to see who else we add in FA.  I can't wait to see who we draft, but outside of the positions we just need to bring in some bodies to fill them (RB, DT, & S), I'd feel pretty good about where we are even at this moment.  The great thing is that we still have additions coming.

 

It's gonna be a great 2024 season!!!  Go Bills!!!

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4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

Your thesis is missing one vital ingredient … the draft 

 

I mentioned the draft.  Maybe take the time to read the post rather than looking at the title and maybe the first sentence or 2 and responding, which is clearly what you did.

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

.  We aren't drafting 11 guys and you can bet we'll be trading around in the draft to end up with between 7-9 players.  Hopefully 5 or 6 of them turn into SERIOUS contributors in 2024.

 

Pretty sure all of these are what Beane is banking on.

This is a terrible plan.


Not only has Beane never had a draft where more than 3 guys have “seriously” contributed day one, but to bank on the draft as a “plan” when picking late in rounds and having lots of day 3 picks is just awful when you know it’s a complete crapshoot. 

 

We currently have 1 starting safety on the roster. Why? Because every safety that Beane and co. drafted in their tenure here has sucked. 

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7 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I mentioned the draft.  Maybe take the time to read the post rather than looking at the title and maybe the first sentence or 2 and responding, which is clearly what you did.

 

 

The success of this team will be determined by the WR help they get in the draft …

 

Thats all I need to know 

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3 minutes ago, FireChans said:

This is a terrible plan.


Not only has Beane never had a draft where more than 3 guys have “seriously” contributed day one, but to bank on the draft as a “plan” when picking late in rounds and having lots of day 3 picks is just awful when you know it’s a complete crapshoot. 

 

We currently have 1 starting safety on the roster. Why? Because every safety that Beane and co. drafted in their tenure here has sucked. 

 

We have lots of day 3 picks that will be used as ammunition to move up and move around in the draft.  Anyone tracking the Bills over the last few years would notice the Bills actually have done pretty well in their day 3 picks.  The problem is that those players come to a team that's full of entrenched veterans already in positions they're competing for, so when those later draft picks are inevitably not beating those veterans out, they're cut by the Bills and poached by other teams before we can get them on the PS.

 

But right now the Bills have 7 picks in the 5th-7th rounds and I'll bet they only pick 2 or 3 in those rounds because they've used them to trade up and go get the guys that they want.

 

And in terms of relying on those guys to play, you only really need to bank on a starter at maybe a couple positions.  

 

As for Safety... read what I said about the position.  Sean McDermott knows what he's doing.  You might think we only have one starting safety on the roster, but McDermott might not see it that way.  I trust him over you in terms of judging Safeties.  Luckily, there are still a ton of Safeties in FA and we still have the draft, too.

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I don't think we're going to suck this year but I'm not even bothering putting any Super Bowl contender expectations on this team for the upcoming season.  I am looking at this phase like it's going to be a 2 year "re-tooling" process.  I'm fine with it.  I think in the long run we will benefit much more by having an offseason like this.  Just my two cents.  

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4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

 

The success of this team will be determined by the WR help they get in the draft …

 

Thats all I need to know 

 

Nope.  

 

You can just post TLDR and get outta the thread if you want.

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Nope.  

 

You can just post TLDR and get outta the thread if you want.


Yep… 

 

Their receivers are currently worse than last year … and it looks like help isn’t coming in FA ..

 

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I don't think there will be a team that is measurably better than the Bills.  I saw us as the best in the league for awhile in '23, before the injuries started piling up.

 

Really enjoyed the breakdown. Thanks for posting, and for the optimism.  With Allen, we'll always be a contender - but I think we'll have one of our strongest teams of the JA era heading into '24.

 

I just listened to Edelman being interviewed, and he was talking about how important health is to a SB run.  We need that more than anything.  It feels like every season has been somewhat derailed by injury. While every team deals w/ that, the Bills have been hit harder than most.

 

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10 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

We have lots of day 3 picks that will be used as ammunition to move up and move around in the draft.  Anyone tracking the Bills over the last few years would notice the Bills actually have done pretty well in their day 3 picks.  The problem is that those players come to a team that's full of entrenched veterans already in positions they're competing for, so when those later draft picks are inevitably not beating those veterans out, they're cut by the Bills and poached by other teams before we can get them on the PS.

 

But right now the Bills have 7 picks in the 5th-7th rounds and I'll bet they only pick 2 or 3 in those rounds because they've used them to trade up and go get the guys that they want.

 

And in terms of relying on those guys to play, you only really need to bank on a starter at maybe a couple positions.  

 

As for Safety... read what I said about the position.  Sean McDermott knows what he's doing.  You might think we only have one starting safety on the roster, but McDermott might not see it that way.  I trust him over you in terms of judging Safeties.  Luckily, there are still a ton of Safeties in FA and we still have the draft, too.

????

 

Nick Broeker, Alex Austin, Justin Shorter, Shakir, Benford, Araiza, Tenuta, Spector, Doyle, Stevenson, Wildgoose, Hamlin, Anderson, Fromm, Bass, Hodgins, Jackson.

 

That’s 4 years of day 3 picks. I count 4 guys who are starters at the NFL level including a KICKER, and 1 of them that “seriously” contributed for the Bills as a rookie and wasn’t a kicker. Out of 17 picks. But this is the draft where we are gonna get 2 or 3 of them. Because we need it to happen, I guess?

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10 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

I don't think we're going to suck this year but I'm not even bothering putting any Super Bowl contender expectations on this team for the upcoming season.  I am looking at this phase like it's going to be a 2 year "re-tooling" process.  I'm fine with it.  I think in the long run we will benefit much more by having an offseason like this.  Just my two cents.  

 

I think the 2024 Bills are going to thrive off the Underdog mentality because I think most people nationally will feel exactly as you do.

 

Can't wait to see it!

8 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

The transplant curse strikes early :nana: 

 

Notice I said I said I'm definitely not predicting Super Bowl  :nana:

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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

First of all, I love what Beane is doing as we move into the beginning of the new league year right now.  Release the old and expensive players and retain a few valuable pieces.  All of this in order to get our CAP situation in order moving into future season.  Meanwhile, he's accrued 11 total draft picks as ammunition to go get the guys that he wants.  We aren't drafting 11 guys and you can bet we'll be trading around in the draft to end up with between 7-9 players.  Hopefully 5 or 6 of them turn into SERIOUS contributors in 2024. The Bills have two picks in the first 3 rounds. I would not expect that much from late round picks. 

 

But honestly, even without the draft and at a snapshot moment in Free Agency when all the Bills have done is re-sign Jones, Epenesa and Lewis and signed Morrow and Hollins, I think the 2024 Buffalo Bills are set up to be a better team than in 2023. In what world does adding Morrow and Hollins while losing the long list of guys = better? I am worried about of coaching staff if we had all these starters that were actually hurting the team. 

 

Coaching 

First of all, the Bills revamped their coaching staff almost completely.  They got a lot younger, so some fresh perspectives are likely coming into the fold.  On top of that Joe Brady will have an ENTIRE offseason to build and implement his own offense in Buffalo rather than using Dorsey's offense.  Our OC and DC are young and energetic and infectious by reports from all the players and media.  And what's more, McDermott will still be able to help Babbich grow where he needs to while focusing on more aspects of the team than he was able to last year. Again the premise is bring in younger less experienced guys and that equals better? Can happen but should not be the assumption. 

 

Special Teams

Bass had the worst year of his career last year, but was a consistent kicker before that.  I don't think he goes anywhere but up... and bringing Haack in to (possibly????) compete for the punting job might be a sign Beane & Co. believe holding is a notable part of the problem.  And maybe it was????  Remember how bad a holder Bojo was and what happened to the Packers kicking game when he went over there as the punter?  If Haack's our punter... he's not a great punter, but hopefully we don't punt a lot :flirt: Returners are a dime a dozen to me and we have potential returners in Shakir, Isabella and Hamler already on the roster.  I'm sure we'll bring someone else in, too. Agree Bass could be better. 

 

Offense

 

OL-First of all, 4 out of 5 pieces on our OL will be back.  And the 1 new piece might end up being a familiar face who played a big role on the team last year.  The Bills clearly believe in McGovern as a Center, so I'll trust their judgment.  If Edwards is the LG next to him, I'm fine with that, too.  He was the starting Guard for the Super Bowl champions a few years ago so he has the talent and experience.  Alec Anderson seems like a dark horse to come in and start at that position, though.  We'll still very likely draft a young IOL, though.  Plenty of other young developmental OL talent to be excited about with the likes of Van Demark and Gourage.  and then we'll have what I believe will be one of the best right sides of an offensive line in the NFL with Torrence and Spencer Brown next year.  And Dawkins gonna be Dawkins.  As far as the IOL moves, I was listening to Daniel Jeremiah on his Move the Sticks podcast yesterday and he was saying how he spoke with Brandon Beane relatively recently about OL and Beane was talking about how it's becoming more and more important to have a more stout, strong IOL nowadays than more of an athletic IOL with what's happening on the defensive side with DTs.  I thought it was interesting and seems like that might be a reason for the Morse release and move for McGovern. Its technically a change at C and G so 2 changes to the OL. Not overly worried but lets hope the loss of Morse is not more impactful than they are betting on. 

 

QB-See above about Joe Brady.  Otherwise, not much needs to be said here.  Let's just hope that our freak QB stays healthy this year and doesn't get injuries that affects his throwing motion the way he did the last 2 seasons.  If he has to sit for a week or 2, I think we should all feel a little better with Trubisky than Kyle Allen. If Allen is out who cares, we are in trouble. 

 

WR-See above about Joe Brady.  I think Diggs was hurt in the 2nd half of the season.  I don't know what game that was where he was thrown to the ground, but I think he was playing hurt for awhile.  Yes, he's getting older, but Diggs is still a #1 WR.  He just needs more talent around him, and with Shakir's development last year, we'll likely see him as a bigger part of the offense.  I really think either Isabella or Hamler makes this roster.  I don't know which one, but one of them is going to be our 4th or 5th WR/gadget guy/ returner.  Mack Hollins feels like a roster bubble guy.  Justin Shorter might be the guy to replace Siran Neal as the gunner and will be sitting in the 5th or 6th WR spot.  So a lot depends on who we draft at WR.  And I think everyone knows we're drafting a WR in round 1 or 2.  Whoever it is, let's hope he's better than Gabe.  Long term I think odds are he will be. Without another legit WR we are in trouble. It will be more of what we saw late last year. If Brady can fix the route concepts and play design that could help. But there is a weird thought that with Brady will fix everything, even though he has been here and had a voice for some time now. I doubt he was worthy of being OC but prior to that completely ignored. 

 

TE-A healthy Dawson Knox and a year 2 Dalton Kincaid with an entire offseason to work on his game????  Sign me up!!! This should be a good spot. They need to get Kincaid downfield more. 

 

RB-We all saw the weapon James Cook can be.  Dude just needs to spend plenty of time on the Jugs machine.  RBs are a dime a dozen... we'll find a couple to fill roles and be just fine. Make or break year for Cook to separate himself as the starting back. He had flashes last year but still left a lot out there. 

 

Defense

admittedly D is our biggest worry.  But I think we have less to worry about than feared.


DE-Groot was hampered by a foot injury most of last year, which was obvious.  Von was clearly still recovering from his ACL tear, which was obvious.  I expect both to be better in 2024.  I don't really understand those who think Von just all of the sudden sucks.  He had an ACL tear and tried coming back to play full time less than a year after it happened.  Most athletes say they take a couple years to feel like themselves after an ACL tear.  Just ask Tre White.  Epenesa re-signing is exciting!  If he takes another step in 2025 then our top 3 rotational edge rushers would be an upgrade from last year even with Floyd leaving.  I almost anticipate Lawson coming back, but even if he didn't and Jonathan and Kline were our 4th an 5th DEs, that would still be pretty solid depth. Big if is if Von can resemble some form of his old self. Reality is he is 34 years old. Groot and AJE are solid but neither have shown anything close to being a dominant player. This could be a huge weakness for the team. 

 

DT- Oliver and Jones is a lethal duo.  Just getting Jones back and healthy for a full season will be an upgrade.  And Jones has been pretty healthy for his career up until this past year.  I don't think he missed a regular season game in the previous 5-7 seasons.  But that's it for DTs other than Ankou, who frankly might make the team and just might be an upgrade on Settle/Ford/Phillips.  But we're going to draft at least one and acquire one... maybe post June 1st as our late offseason Floyd signing.  But it's all about Oliver and Jones, really.  We didn't have Daquan most of last season.  If we do in 2024, that's an upgrade. Expect a couple more vets here, but solid group. 

 

LB-Everything I said above about Daquan Jones and what the impact would be in getting him back is amplified with all of the same stuff for Milano.  Losing Milano last year was the most devastating thing that happened to our team.  He was absolutely unbelievable to start the year.  His injury isn't the kind of injury that lingers once he rehabs and heals, so I'd expect him to be back to himself.  Top that off with the now-known-commodity of Terrel Bernard and we might have the best starting duo of LBs in the league.  Throw in Dorian Williams, who I believe will be used as an X-factor in a league that is shifting more and more towards 3 LB alignments because of the heavier personnel and the LB Unit will already be better in 2024.Should be at least an average unit. Best in the league dont know about that...

 

CB-Our starting CBs are pretty much all studs.  Taron, Rasul and Benford are all really good to exceptional.  I really do think Elam still has a decent shot with this new coaching staff and potentially new (maybe only slightly) system that will utilize some more man principles.  I wouldn't sleep on him finding a way into a significant or even starting role.  When he does get on the field, he makes plays.  We'll draft a CB or 2.  We always do.  The difference will be that there will be room on the roster for them to actually make the team rather than get poached by other teams the way Alex Austin or Nick McLeod were.  And don't sleep on the 2 guys on our PS.  Ingram might make the team to play a critical backup role. Taron and Douglas are solid. Benford is a fringe starter and Elam is fighting to play on game day. We lack speed an depth. 

 

S-Personnel-wise, this is likely the position we have to worry about the most.  But at the same time, Sean McDermott throughout his entire career has always turned other teams' trash into his treasure when it comes to the Safety position.  From the Eagles to the Panthers to the Bills, you can go and track all the safeties that have come through those teams and find quality to elite contributors.  It's actually pretty insane the way he does it.  I expect he does it again.  We'll likely get a guy in FA and draft a guy, but I'm really not gonna be shocked if our starting Safety tandem is Taylor Rapp and Cam Lewis.  Everyone is going to freak out if that happens.  I won't.  McDermott knows the safety position better than anyone.  I don't even think that's hyperbole.  We'll be good. We have Rapp who is a lower level starter and nobody. People keep saying not to worry but anyone remember what happened the prior year when Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson along with Neal, Lewis, Marlowe etc.

 

 

Now... am I predicting Super Bowl???? Heck no!!!  Too many variables always come into play and the playoffs are one-and-done so you just never know.  However, the widespread national narrative and narrative among some on this board is that Buffalo's Super Bowl Window is closed and what we're seeing this offseason is the start of a rebuild. Reality is without additional moves or rookie draft picks that pan out we have taken a step back this year.  Just the reality unless you play the addition by subtraction game and again that would mean our coaches are that clueless and we trust them to be better with less? 

 

Not a rebuild folks,  We're re-tooling.  And the tools we'll have in 2024 will be sharper, shinier and more effective!!!  I can't wait to see who else we add in FA.  I can't wait to see who we draft, but outside of the positions we just need to bring in some bodies to fill them (RB, DT, & S), I'd feel pretty good about where we are even at this moment.  The great thing is that we still have additions coming. We need to retool. We have not retooled. We brought back one starter in Jones and a few mid to bottom of the roster players. Plus added a couple guys that may not even make the final roster. 

 

It's gonna be a great 2024 season!!!  Go Bills!!!

 

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19 minutes ago, FireChans said:

This is a terrible plan.


Not only has Beane never had a draft where more than 3 guys have “seriously” contributed day one, but to bank on the draft as a “plan” when picking late in rounds and having lots of day 3 picks is just awful when you know it’s a complete crapshoot. 

 

We currently have 1 starting safety on the roster. Why? Because every safety that Beane and co. drafted in their tenure here has sucked. 

All those day three picks should be fighting with Hollins, Morrow, Lewis, Rapp, etc for jobs. 

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

I don’t believe we’ll be better per se but I think we’ll be about the same. 12-5 or 11-6

So you lose Morse, Poyer, Hyde, White, Floyd, Davis and that equals better? Those guys must have sucked. 

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Just now, ngbills said:

All those day three picks should be fighting with Hollins, Morrow, Lewis, Rapp, etc for jobs. 


Rapp is Safety 1 at the moment .. I don’t think that 5 th rounder is beating him out …at least not until Week 6 anyway ..

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2 minutes ago, ngbills said:

All those day three picks should be fighting with Hollins, Morrow, Lewis, Rapp, etc for jobs. 

So you lose Morse, Poyer, Hyde, White, Floyd, Davis and that equals better? Those guys must have sucked. 

 

Why not list the guys coming back from injury, too?

 

Morse is a loss.  Poyer & Hyde were almost holding us back, imo - both lost a step, and we lost speed in the secondary as a result.  White hardly played for us, and Davis was wildly inconsistent.

 

I like the direction of younger & faster

 

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1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:


Rapp is Safety 1 at the moment .. I don’t think that 5 th rounder is beating him out …at least not until Week 6 anyway ..

If Rapp doesn't get suspended for a head shot before then. 

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