LLCoolCy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 16 minutes ago, SCBills said: Diggs ? Shakir ? Hollins Shorter vs Isabella vs Hamler I see it as Diggs Kincaid Shakir ? Hollins vs Shorter vs Isabella vs Hamler vs additional FA. Vet min deal up to 3mil for Hollins doesn't guarantee he makes the roster. Mack is the replacement for Sheffeild in my mind, good SP gunner that can rotate in as a big outside WR if needed. I don't expect him to the primary outside WR role today. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Why don't all NFL teams have UDFA as their 4-7 string WR? The KC Chiefs don't know what the hell they're doing. They currently have 5 WR's in that 1-3 million dollar contracts and their highest paid WR is making $3.4 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/contracts/ Rocket science. I’m sorry. Is any other team the Buffalo Bills? Are the chiefs in cap he’ll like we are? And last question, did the chiefs just win multiple super bowls? They can do whatever they want. We need to beat them and we can’t. 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 39 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Fans need to realize the Bills are being cheap this offseason. That's not even it though. The is a depth signing. A cheap 1 year deal. They need to fill out the roster. This guy fills a need that left with Sherfield. There will be no glorious expectations. 2 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Two Things: 1) Mack Hollins on a 1 year deal, worth "up to" 3M is a good deal for a WR5. Special Teamer with size who can come in provide adequate WR depth. 2) People do have the right to worry if this is all we do at WR leading up to the Draft. The pressure on Beane to get it right, with the entire league knowing he needs to get it right, will be very high. All this talk of Allen needing more help and all we've done, pre-draft, is trade Bates, cut Morse and let Gabe walk. I'm not saying those weren't the right decisions.. I agree with them, but (if) there are no substantive corresponding FA moves before the Draft, Beane has really boxed himself in. I think the excitement of this pick up is that it might signal the intention of the FO to fast track the WR they pick in the 1st round to play. This guy is very little competition to our rookie WR picked in the 1st round. That's exciting to me. I hope it is Thomas/Mitchell/or Legettte. Whoever they decide, draft him, and use him immediately. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why don't all NFL teams have UDFA as their 4-7 string WR? The KC Chiefs don't know what the hell they're doing. They currently have 5 WR's in that 1-3 million dollar contracts and their highest paid WR is making $3.4 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/contracts/ Rocket science. I'm not against the Mack Hollins signing. It makes a lot of sense. The reaction to this is just bottled up frustration from the fanbase towards the cumulative team building of the past few years. That said.. Don't compare us to KC. Do we have a Travis Kelce? No. At least not yet. Do we have a Chris Jones. Lol, no, not even close. Mahomes restructure allows them to extend Snead if they want. Elite playmaker. Elite pass rusher. Elite corner. Bills have none of that.. and while we finally seem to be ready to use premium draft capital on WR, the Chiefs have done that the past two years in a row. 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 47 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: How about some rookies? Possibly, obviously. But Mack is a known. Later Round rookies will have stiffer competition to earn a jersey, let alone a roster spot. This is a solid move, despite the preceding comments. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 13 Posted March 13 36 minutes ago, Beck Water said: He may well make the roster as a gunner/STer 5th or 6th WR - why would you have a problem with that? He's shown he can produce more with a good QB throwing to him than most #5 or 6 WR do. Yea I don't think he is very good tbh. Never have. Quote
JoshAllin Posted March 13 Posted March 13 I like him, at least from the from the few times I've watched him on the raiders, he always wowed me. He might be a better gabe davis, but then again I haven't seen much of him besides the few times Quote
Westside Posted March 13 Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Why don't all NFL teams have UDFA as their 4-7 string WR? The KC Chiefs don't know what the hell they're doing. They currently have 5 WR's in that 1-3 million dollar contracts and their highest paid WR is making $3.4 million. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/contracts/ Rocket science. Are the Chiefs any good though? (sarcasm) LOL Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: Except he's not terrible. He fills two needs also being a capable blocking receiver and a ST guy. He's also shown reliable hands and has produced some decent numbers with lesser offenses with lesser QB's We wanted guys that can catch the football, and this guy does that pretty well. He's also a big target. Posters need to get a grip here and realize these are the moves we will be making this offseason due to our cap. You will get your WR in the first or second round...maybe both. Stop crying Yeah not crying. I’m simply not sucking on the Beane tit like everyone else. 1. Any WR that’s especially good at blocking, when he’s on the field but actually sucks at being a WR does nothing but take away the ability to have a playmaker on the field. It also tips off the defense to what we’re actually doing. Like every single time. 2. Don’t give a crap about hands if this guy is so slow and lumbering that he’ll never get open anyway. Not to mention that I don’t want him anywhere near the field ever on offense. If we’re down to him then we might as well pack it in. 3. Your 2nd and 3rd points were exactly the same and they both sucked. 4. I’ve already pointed out that we’re in cap hell. Yet here we are wasting what little dollars we do have on scrubs like this. Again, save up all the 2-3m contracts that we have. Sign undrafted guys that were bagging groceries because that’s what their guy will provide anyway. And after 5-8 contracts that you saved like that maybe you could go out and fond someone for 6-10m that can actually play. 5. Again, if you believe we’re going WR in rd 1 and 2 I think you’re more crazy than I thought. But I honestly have doubts we’ll even end up with 1 in the first 2 rounds. Time will tell. We’re a little over a month away. 1 1 Quote
muppy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Wow. This guy hasn't done squat. And this is the WR signing to help the WR room? This has to be a Kick returner right? 131 receptions in 6 years? I'm tempted to post patience grasshopper. We all are hopeful for Action. Hold your water It WILL come just not on your timing. Sucks huh 🙂 Edited March 13 by muppy Quote
eball Posted March 13 Posted March 13 58 minutes ago, boyst said: 6'4" 221 lbs. 2017 4th round pick (114) out of UNC by Phili. He wasn't good enough to play at Duke. Take away 2019: 1691 yards, 13.25 average on 91 games with 131 catches catches I really can’t believe you’re a Duke fan. You’re better than that. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, mrags said: I’m sorry. Is any other team the Buffalo Bills? Are the chiefs in cap he’ll like we are? And last question, did the chiefs just win multiple super bowls? They can do whatever they want. We need to beat them and we can’t. Great arguements. They have a little more space than us and their big signing for a pass catcher....Irv Smith. So the Chiefs proved that you can win without even a solid WR core...they were terrible at that unit. That means the Bills signing a depth WR, just like the Super Bowl champs means Beane doesn't know what he's doing? Is this how your thought process works? I am going to ask you again, why don't all teams sign UDFA as their 4-7 stringers? Every single team that has ever won a Super Bowl has had veteran WR depth making as much as Mack Collins. Have NFL GM's been wrong throughout history? Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13 Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said: That's not even it though. The is a depth signing. A cheap 1 year deal. They need to fill out the roster. This guy fills a need that left with Sherfield. There will be no glorious expectations. He’s trash. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Great arguements. They have a little more space than us and their big signing for a pass catcher....Irv Smith. So the Chiefs proved that you can win without even a solid WR core...they were terrible at that unit. That means the Bills signing a depth WR, just like the Super Bowl champs means Beane doesn't know what he's doing? Is this how your thought process works? I am going to ask you again, why don't all teams sign UDFA as their 4-7 stringers? Every single team that has ever won a Super Bowl has had veteran WR depth making as much as Mack Collins. Have NFL GM's been wrong throughout history? I’m not arguing with you on this. You like the live. I think it’s stupid. I also don’t have a high opinion of you, so there you go. I’m sure the feelings mutual so no need to inform me of that. Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Free to welcome CB #2 incoming from draft round one! (I kid I kid) Quote
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