SoonerBillsFan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 12 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: Beane is unreal at signing crap players when we need impact players at the position. Especially this year with money being so tight. I hope Beane pays this guy a bonus from his own salary and not the teams CAP money. Just another stupid signing by this guy. I would rather sign a Curtis Samuel or somone like him,draft WR at 28 then fill in with low end draft picks. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, SoTier said: What "impact" WRs would you suggest for the money the Bills have to spend???? Keep in mind that the Bills have to have STers, and not all "impact" players are interested in playing ST even if they are willing to take less money to play for a contender. Well, let’s add the $2m from this signing and bunch it with all the other stupid $2m signings they have and see how much we can come up with. I’d be willing to bet that at the end you’d have at least $10-14m you could have spent on a decent FA WR or any other position for that matter. Meanwhile, your special teams suck anyway, just like it did last year, so no loss, no gain. And you give a few undrafted rookie FAs a chance to make the roster. Problem solved. 1 1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 29 minutes ago, Sweats said: I'm not sure if the guy was used properly in the past teams schemes. He's coming into a situation with an elite QB, adequate coaching and perhaps a chip on his shoulder, wanting to prove himself.......I think Hollins is going to surprise some people this year. We said this about Sherfield etc. It nothing more than Moneyball BS. Quote
Motorin' Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, ALLinALLEN said: Even this frightens me 😬 Realistically the #2 receiver in terms of production will be Kincaid. It would be great if the rookie is #3. But that could very well be Shakir. Then there's Cook and Knox. So that's a top 6 pass catchers being Diggs, Kincaid, Shakir, Rookie 1, Cook, Knox. Kincaid should have close to 100 catches and 1000 yards this year... Imo, they need to find a way to get Kincaid, Diggs and Shakir on the field at the same time frequently. And that might mean a focus on tight formations. 3 Quote
ALLinALLEN Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Motorin' said: Realistically the #2 receiver in terms of production will be Kincaid. It would be great if the rookie is #3. But that could very well be Shakir. Then there's Cook and Knox. So that's a top 6 pass catchers being Diggs, Kincaid, Shakir, Rookie 1, Cook, Knox. Kincaid should have close to 100 catches and 1000 yards this year... Imo, they need to find a way to get Kincaid, Diggs and Shakir on the field at the same time frequently. And that might mean a focus on tight formations. Totally forgot about him when looking at the receiving corp. Thank god. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, mrags said: Well, let’s add the $2m from this signing and bunch it with all the other stupid $2m signings they have and see how much we can come up with. I’d be willing to bet that at the end you’d have at least $10-14m you could have spent on a decent FA WR or any other position for that matter. Meanwhile, your special teams suck anyway, just like it did last year, so no loss, no gain. And you give a few undrafted rookie FAs a chance to make the roster. Problem solved. Thank you. Sign ONE 10-12 mill WR that has done something, draft Diggs replacement at 28 ( or better yet,move up) then fill in with 5th and 6th round picks that don't cost 2 mill per. I am sick of the bestdamn QB in the NFL being given ****. Load up the damn offense and outscore teams. 1 Quote
ngbills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Well, let’s add the $2m from this signing and bunch it with all the other stupid $2m signings they have and see how much we can come up with. I’d be willing to bet that at the end you’d have at least $10-14m you could have spent on a decent FA WR or any other position for that matter. Meanwhile, your special teams suck anyway, just like it did last year, so no loss, no gain. And you give a few undrafted rookie FAs a chance to make the roster. Problem solved. So many people don’t see this. How many games would have turned out different if all of our $2-4m guys that played essentially no snaps were replaced by min salary guys. My guess is 0 impact. But you add even one legit player like Hopkins last year and that gets you a few wins. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said: We said this about Sherfield etc. It nothing more than Moneyball BS. Might as well give up SBF. These people won’t ever get it. Or they’re too stubborn to admit it. End of the day, we’ve seen this all before and it hasn’t worked. We’re just continuing the same stupid moves year after year. This year is going to suck. Lots of hope we will win it in total in the division round again. Probably with the same guys hurt that always get hurt (Milano) Same guys missing that always go missing (talking to you AJ Ep), the same guys that underperform (everyone else not named Allen) and get outcoached by any real HC in this league. Yay!!!! We’re doing it. We’re a top team in the league that can’t ever get over the hump. Anything to sell PSLs tho for now. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, Motorin' said: Realistically the #2 receiver in terms of production will be Kincaid. It would be great if the rookie is #3. But that could very well be Shakir. Then there's Cook and Knox. So that's a top 6 pass catchers being Diggs, Kincaid, Shakir, Rookie 1, Cook, Knox. Kincaid should have close to 100 catches and 1000 yards this year... Imo, they need to find a way to get Kincaid, Diggs and Shakir on the field at the same time frequently. And that might mean a focus on tight formations. Brady is a big fan of the 3x1 condensed bunch stuff. It allows your smaller shakir/diggs types to play off the LOS, and you can either ISO kincaid on one side, or put him at the head of the bunch and iso diggs on the other side. Was easier with davis as your on the LOS WR. I felt like we got a little too cute with checks at times, and threw too many of those little boundary swing passes but for the most part it does help with creating mismatches. Other teams see how lining up and showing blitz etc will adjust what we do, so you just have to think about that when doing play design. 1 Quote
Green Lightning Posted March 13 Posted March 13 The Mack Hollins? Damn. Didn't see that coming. Mostly because I never knew he existed. Looking like a long Free Agency for our Bills. 1 Quote
Paup 1995MVP Posted March 13 Posted March 13 24 minutes ago, Rigotz said: It's the Jake Kumerow role guys. Calm down. He's a great blocker at the X position and can catch a ball or two. He had significantly better production than both Sherfield and Kumerow the last several years with a worse QB. Cry about it all you want, it's a good signing. I like your positivity Rigotz. Hollins is an NFL player. He can run but is not overly twitchy. Kumerow caught one pass of note while on the Bills. The TD at Denver when we were already winning by 35 points. Sherfield was garbage. Looked like he had no idea what an NFL WR does. He had one reception of note all season too. If I practiced law like Sherfield played WR, I would have been living under a bridge for the past 25 years. Hollins is a faster Gabe Davis type at a much cheaper price. The Bills are in the top 6-8 organizations in the NFL. Beane always has a plan. Lets hope we get the best version of Mack Hollins. And playing with Josh Allen should give him some more juice then playing with Desmond Ritter or Derrick Carr. 2 Quote
freddyjj Posted March 13 Posted March 13 OMG does this mean that the TBD appointed savior of the Bills WR corps, Andy Isabella, may not make the 53 again? Hamler and Isabella fight for a depth slot WR/ST role as returner. Shorter and Hollins will battle for backup outside WR and gunner role. Winners have shot at WR 5 or 6 spot. WR 2 and 4 are not on roster yet. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, freddyjj said: OMG does this mean that the TBD appointed savior of the Bills WR corps, Andy Isabella, may not make the 53 again? Hamler and Isabella fight for a depth slot WR/ST role as returner. Shorter and Hollins will battle for backup outside WR and gunner role. Winners have shot at WR 5 or 6 spot. WR 2 and 4 are not on roster yet. Agreed. 2 will likely come by draft and there are a few 4 types on the market. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, mrags said: Might as well give up SBF. These people won’t ever get it. Or they’re too stubborn to admit it. End of the day, we’ve seen this all before and it hasn’t worked. We’re just continuing the same stupid moves year after year. This year is going to suck. Lots of hope we will win it in total in the division round again. Probably with the same guys hurt that always get hurt (Milano) Same guys missing that always go missing (talking to you AJ Ep), the same guys that underperform (everyone else not named Allen) and get outcoached by any real HC in this league. Yay!!!! We’re doing it. We’re a top team in the league that can’t ever get over the hump. Anything to sell PSLs tho for now. How the hell does Terry expect to sell psl's in a **** economy when his product is going to regress? And yes you and I aren't going to get through to those that just can't get it. Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, MAJBobby said: If we didn’t waste $2m on like 8 different useless players we might have enough money to sign someone like MW. 1 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SoTier said: What "impact" WRs would you suggest for the money the Bills have to spend???? Keep in mind that the Bills have to have STers, and not all "impact" players are interested in playing ST even if they are willing to take less money to play for a contender. I would rather pay someone after free agency or after training camp. It sure would not cost us $3 Mil then for a special teams player / WR #5 or #6. Even a drafted 5th or 6th round guy would be cheaper than this. Edited March 13 by Toyo321 1 Quote
akcash Posted March 13 Posted March 13 I like this signing. I kinda of David Nelson/Isaiah Hodgins type talent. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, SoonerBillsFan said: How the hell does Terry expect to sell psl's in a **** economy when his product is going to regress? And yes you and I aren't going to get through to those that just can't get it. Oh, he’ll find a way. 1 Quote
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