Cray51 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ll take youth over the Mack Hollins types. I would rather an undrafted rookie free agent filling out the final WR spot. We will have youth at WR2, WR4/5 and potentially WR6. Hollins will be WR4orWr5 depending on draft talent 2 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: I appreciate you taking up the mantle here and fighting the good fight, but it's clear that some people want to be mad at the Bills for the sake of being mad. Maybe its CTE. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, Cray51 said: We will have youth at WR2, WR4/5 and potentially WR6. Hollins will be WR4orWr5 depending on draft talent Sure we will. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 He's a depth WR. Any real help for the top end of the WR room is coming from the DRAFT. My personal hope is for a 1st round WR and then another (who is on their board and falls) in the 5th round. Quote
JohnNord Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: This is a Trent Sherfield level signing. I really hope this isn't the end of our WR free agent shopping. I see him as a bigger, better replacement for Trent Sherfield 2 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: This is an upgrade to Sherfield I'm an upgrade to Sherfield 3 Quote
Success Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Beane has a tough job. Teams HAVE to sign guys like this. They need depth, they need special teams. But any signing that isn't a marquee player or at least someone everyone knows gets slammed. 3 Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) He’s WR4 which is fine. They need to draft a stud this year. Dalton is the number 2 right now (which is fine) Edited March 13 by GETTOTHE50 Quote
biggerdaddynj Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bigvinny said: We’re shopping at the dollar tree, We have no money. I’m still wondering about leaving $13 million that we desperately needed this year on the table by not taking full advantage of reworking Josh’s contract to the max benefit—even those talking heads we all hate but who do know a bit more than us were also confused by that move. That $13 million or part thereof could have landed us a one year prove it WR (aside from Ridley or “Hollywood”) Check Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/. And, another one year prove it defensive player (in round three of FA). Edited March 13 by biggerdaddynj Quote
BullBuchanan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You specifically stated WR and someone at Mack Collins level isn't good enough to play on a contending team. You then were given an example of a Super Bowl winning team with multiple WR's and Mack Collins level and below. This isn't that difficult and multiple people have commented on it. The GOAT receiver and GOAT QB had the Chiefs at 15th in points scored at 23.1 ppg. Can you tell us all again how McD doesn't play rookies? I forgot why I had you on block for the last few years and now I remember. You don't understand the most basic level of common sense. 2 1 1 Quote
msw2112 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Logic said: If this is a "special teams contributor and compete with Shorter to be the 5th WR" move, and they didn't pay much, and they're still going to bring in more legitimate receivers via the draft or free agency, then I'm fine with it. If this represents one of the more significant additions they wind up making at WR this offseason (which I doubt), then I dislike it very much. This is most definitely the signing of a guy to be WR4-WR7 and play special teams. This is not the Bills WR2/Gabe Davis replacement. Nothing to get worked up about. I still anticipate a WR to be drafted in the first 2 rounds and would not be at all surprised to see a second one drafted in the later rounds. In the meantime, this guy has some size, some experience in the league, and is a good special teamer, so if the makes the team, he can add to the mix. 1 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I forgot why I had you on block for the last few years and now I remember. You don't understand the most basic level of common sense. And you do? Someone just laid out all the rookies that McDermott has played and started here... and you don't even reply. You just give them an "X" and keep spewing some bull####. Edited March 13 by JGMcD2 3 1 1 Quote
Madbillsfan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: We are so broke. I hate Beane I honestly wonder, what would it take for someone to say he mismanaged the cap? Would we have to be a 9 win team? Would we not have to have a franchise qb? Quote
KHAN Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: We are so broke. I hate Beane Hard to believe that Whaley and Donahoe are available, and we keep this clown... 2 2 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: I forgot why I had you on block for the last few years and now I remember. You don't understand the most basic level of common sense. Do you even know Mack Collins has a Super Bowl ring with the Eagles and he was their #4 WR in targets that year? Let me guess, Nick Foles and Alshon Jeffrey are GOATS too. I want to see how you now can argue a Super Bowl contending team can't win with Mack Collins at depth WR. I am really interested how you try to spin this. 2 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Does anyone worry about Beane potentially boxing himself in at WR in the Draft? Mack Hollins doesn't change the fact that this WR room, as currently constructed, is not very good. We have a question mark at WR1.. Is he still a WR1, what level of WR1 as he clearly isn't the type to just take over a game no matter what. We have a decent slot WR with some outside flex in Shakir. And we now have a depth WR in Hollins. This is a loaded WR class.. It's also one that has Tier 1 (Harrison, Odunze, Nabers) all gone in the Top 10 and the Tier 2 WR's potentially picked over by 28. People seem to think we have all this draft ammo to move up in RD1.. We don't. We have a lot of picks on Day 3... that's not moving us up much. Quote
Jrb1979 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 8 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said: I’m still wondering about leaving $13 million that we desperately needed this year on the table by not taking full advantage of reworking Josh’s contract to the max benefit—even those talking heads we all hate but who do know a bit more than us were also confused by that move. That $13 million or part thereof could have landed us a one year prove it WR (aside from Ridley or “Hollywood”) Check Spotrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/wide-receiver/. And, another one year prove it defensive player (in round three of FA). From what I heard on the radio the reason they didn't want to rework Josh's contract more is the hope is go get to a point where they don't have to restructure a lot of contracts for cap reasons. 1 Quote
BullBuchanan Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Do you even know Mack Collins has a Super Bowl ring with the Eagles and he was their #4 WR in targets that year? Let me guess, Nick Foles and Alshon Jeffrey are GOATS too. I want to see how you now can argue a Super Bowl contending team can't win with Mack Collins at depth WR. I am really interested how you try to spin this. I won't because that was never my argument. 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, SCBills said: Does anyone worry about Beane potentially boxing himself in at WR in the Draft? Mack Hollins doesn't change the fact that this WR room, as currently constructed, is not very good. We have a question mark at WR1.. Is he still a WR1, what level of WR1 as he clearly isn't the type to just take over a game no matter what. We have a decent slot WR with some outside flex in Shakir. And we now have a depth WR in Hollins. This is a loaded WR class.. It's also one that has Tier 1 (Harrison, Odunze, Nabers) all gone in the Top 10 and the Tier 2 WR's potentially picked over by 28. People seem to think we have all this draft ammo to move up in RD1.. We don't. We have a lot of picks on Day 3... that's not moving us up much. I really see us taking 2 WR's in the draft. I hope one of them is still around that is worthy of taking in rd. 1, but if not, we might have to go "back to back" rd. 2 and 4 since we don't have a 3, or try to jump into rd. 3 for the 2nd WR. 1 Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: Does anyone worry about Beane potentially boxing himself in at WR in the Draft? Mack Hollins doesn't change the fact that this WR room, as currently constructed, is not very good. We have a question mark at WR1.. Is he still a WR1, what level of WR1 as he clearly isn't the type to just take over a game no matter what. We have a decent slot WR with some outside flex in Shakir. And we now have a depth WR in Hollins. This is a loaded WR class.. It's also one that has Tier 1 (Harrison, Odunze, Nabers) all gone in the Top 10 and the Tier 2 WR's potentially picked over by 28. People seem to think we have all this draft ammo to move up in RD1.. We don't. We have a lot of picks on Day 3... that's not moving us up much. It's march...We dont play until September. At least give Beane a few days to work this out. 1 Quote
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