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[Buffalo_Stampede]

19 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

I would have agreed on EDGE/WR being equal, but prior to Diggs trade.

 

We just lost 240 targets, between our WR1 and WR2.  I think drafting a RD1 WR has been long overdue, most will agree.  Someone who can take on 80 or so targets.  Rest of targets will get spread amongst Samuel/Kincaid/Shakir and most likely a 2nd WR drafted in the 4th or 5th.

 

At Edge, I see us addressing 4th round+ and also targeting a FA post June 1.  Similar to Floyd LY, but not holding out hopes for as much impact (at least a vet rusher to rotate).  For better/worse, Von is penciled in as a starter/rotational rusher (teaming with AJE).  With a late pick and another FA addition, I think we can be good enough up front (similar to LY).  

 

DT is where we need to start getting better push/interior pressure.

 

I see us going:

Rd1: Mitchell or Worthy

 

Rd2: Nubin or Kinchens

 

Rd3 (trade next years 2nd from Minny, to get into top 10 of this years 3rd round): Maason or Ruke

 

Rd4: DE and RB/WR

 

Rd5+: WR/RB, CB, OL

 

 

 

This is not how you draft. Trading Diggs doesn’t mean you take a worse player.

If a 1st round player drops to 28 then you take him.

 

The Bills will probably have around 20 1st round players in this draft. If one falls to 28 it’s an easy pick. If none fall then they probably take the top WR remaining on their board. 

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

This is not how you draft. Trading Diggs doesn’t mean you take a worse player.

If a 1st round player drops to 28 then you take him.

 

The Bills will probably have around 20 1st round players in this draft. If one falls to 28 it’s an easy pick. If none fall then they probably take the top WR remaining on their board. 

I'm not debating how you draft, you just changed the topic.

 

You stated that Edge is a greater need than WR.  I was trying to convey my opinion as to why it isn't.  Then I added what I hope to see happen in the draft.

 

Two separate topics, but DE is not a greater need than WR

[Buffalo_Stampede]

12 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

I'm not debating how you draft, you just changed the topic.

 

You stated that Edge is a greater need than WR.  I was trying to convey my opinion as to why it isn't.  Then I added what I hope to see happen in the draft.

 

Two separate topics, but DE is not a greater need than WR

Again, we don’t have 2 starting edge players. We don’t have 2 starting outside WRs.

 

Need isn’t a question here. We need both, but we can’t draft both at 28.

 

[MasterStrategist]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Again, we don’t have 2 starting edge players. We don’t have 2 starting outside WRs.

 

Need isn’t a question here. We need both, but we can’t draft both at 28.

 

I beg to differ about Edge.  Like I mentioned, for better or worse, we're likely to roll with Groot and a combo of Von/AJE ( and potential FA signing post June 1st).  We're counting on Von to get close to his old form and for AJE to be more consistent.

 

Next year, Edge will be the biggest need once Von is cut.

 

As for WR, we "might" have 1 outside WR in Samuel.  Bigger than that, we don't have any downfield threats. 

 

We have a starting DL to roll out, we can't say the same about WR

 

 

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

I actually was just told the Bills have had MULTIPLE Zoom meetings with Roman Wilson, so he is one to keep an eye on. He could potentially be a 2nd round target with a small trade up.

[OldTimer1960]

49 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

I beg to differ about Edge.  Like I mentioned, for better or worse, we're likely to roll with Groot and a combo of Von/AJE ( and potential FA signing post June 1st).  We're counting on Von to get close to his old form and for AJE to be more consistent.

 

Next year, Edge will be the biggest need once Von is cut.

 

As for WR, we "might" have 1 outside WR in Samuel.  Bigger than that, we don't have any downfield threats. 

 

We have a starting DL to roll out, we can't say the same about WR

 

 

You really want to count on Miller?  He *might* be better this year, but I wouldn’t count on that.  Really, that can sink their season as easily as wr can.

[Ralonzo]

On 3/31/2024 at 8:04 PM, nosejob said:

Trade a 4th to Tb for 26 or even 4th and whatever to Jerry for 24. Get Latu

Trade next years 1st for a 2nd and 3rd this year, get Sweat 2 WRs and Maason Smith

 

 

Tell me you're a doctor working for the Bills without telling me you're a doctor working for the Bills.

[MasterStrategist]

5 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You really want to count on Miller?  He *might* be better this year, but I wouldn’t count on that.  Really, that can sink their season as easily as wr can.

I think Von will be a solid 8-10 sack guy this year.  Came back way early from his torn ACL, year 2 is always the "get close" to form year.  Even at his age, he has 1-2 productive years left in this league.

 

He's highly motivated/hard worker naturally, but also has alot of incentives riding on this year.  

 

JMO.  But I'm also hoping Beane uses the post June 1 Tre $$$s on a FA DE.  Someone who can be insurance/allow Groot to slide inside on passing downs again.

[H2o]

2 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

JMO.  But I'm also hoping Beane uses the post June 1 Tre $$$s on a FA DE.  Someone who can be insurance/allow Groot to slide inside on passing downs again.

Haven't you heard? That's like 1/3 of the money we need to sign Aiyuk after we trade for him. 

[OldTimer1960]

7 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

I think Von will be a solid 8-10 sack guy this year.  Came back way early from his torn ACL, year 2 is always the "get close" to form year.  Even at his age, he has 1-2 productive years left in this league.

 

He's highly motivated/hard worker naturally, but also has alot of incentives riding on this year.  

 

JMO.  But I'm also hoping Beane uses the post June 1 Tre $$$s on a FA DE.  Someone who can be insurance/allow Groot to slide inside on passing downs again.

I think the cap savings from Tre are needed for signing the rookies.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[Beck Water]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

 

So did he visit the Bills?

[OldTimer1960]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

 

Kneeland is a late first/early 2nd guy?  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

17 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Kneeland is a late first/early 2nd guy?  

2nd-3rd.

[OldTimer1960]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

2nd-3rd.

 

16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

2nd-3rd.

I agree with you.  One of the linked posts said late first/early 2nd.  It was Garafolo’s post.

Edited April 15 by OldTimer1960

[SoonerBillsFan]

5 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

This is not how you draft. Trading Diggs doesn’t mean you take a worse player.

If a 1st round player drops to 28 then you take him.

 

The Bills will probably have around 20 1st round players in this draft. If one falls to 28 it’s an easy pick. If none fall then they probably take the top WR remaining on their board. 

I think if all 20 are gone, he trades back.

[The Jokeman]

20 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I think if all 20 are gone, he trades back.

It depends what he can get back. Ideally an early to mid  2nd & 3rd this year be best case scenario.

Edited April 15 by The Jokeman

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I think the cap savings from Tre are needed for signing the rookies.

Not true.

 

By the time rookie salary replaces existing player in top 51, we'd only be adding approx $2.5-3.0m.  That's a ballpark estimate, but it won't be much higher than that. We already have that in available cap room.

 

We will need some the Tre money for Practice Squad/signings throughout the year onto roster.

 

But we should effectively have $5m or so to spend in FA, post June 1st.  They could easily sign a 1yr deal with added voided years to fit a "Leonard Floyd" type for that.  Just like LY.

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, MasterStrategist said:

Not true.

 

By the time rookie salary replaces existing player in top 51, we'd only be adding approx $2.5-3.0m.  That's a ballpark estimate, but it won't be much higher than that. We already have that in available cap room.

 

We will need some the Tre money for Practice Squad/signings throughout the year onto roster.

 

But we should effectively have $5m or so to spend in FA, post June 1st.  They could easily sign a 1yr deal with added voided years to fit a "Leonard Floyd" type for that.  Just like LY.

I wouldn’t be relying on finding a post June 1 Leonard Floyd signing again … you can sign a guy but does mean it will work out as well as Floyd did ..

 

DE is a very much a need … given the scheme rotation requirements and the question mark over Miller … Maybe not quite as big as WR … 

[The Jokeman]

Just now, MasterStrategist said:

Not true.

 

By the time rookie salary replaces existing player in top 51, we'd only be adding approx $2.5-3.0m.  That's a ballpark estimate, but it won't be much higher than that. We already have that in available cap room.

 

We will need some the Tre money for Practice Squad/signings throughout the year onto roster.

 

But we should effectively have $5m or so to spend in FA, post June 1st.  They could easily sign a 1yr deal with added voided years to fit a "Leonard Floyd" type for that.  Just like LY.

Come on over Michael Thomas, reunite with Brady and Curry.

1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said:

I wouldn’t be relying on finding a post June 1 Leonard Floyd signing again … you can sign a guy but does mean it will work out as well as Floyd did ..

 

DE is a very much a need … given the scheme rotation requirements and the question mark over Miller … Maybe not quite as big as WR … 

DT, S and CB are all spots that could be talked about on Day 1 or Day 2. As depth on each of them is questionable.