Sweats Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Kincaid and maybe Shakir can play the slot.......we need a speedy difference maker that can stretch the field. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13 Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Is it bad to have two players who can play in the slot? Shakir and Kincaid are the slot players here. If you add a guy to the WR mix as the #4, it should be a pure speed guy, Quez Watkins, Andy Isabella, Scotty Miller, Mecole Hardman. I know Renfrow brings a lunchpail, but he doesn't move the needle at all. Quote
RichRiderBills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) Renfrow would be a great addition to WR room. I'd love him at the right price. Yes, he's not the #2 WR with jets and everything we need. My belief is the only way to find that guy is via the draft. But we need solid depth as well, and Renfrow is a good one. 100 catch sure handed possession guys are invaluable, and Renfrow can be that. You still draft a guy fellas, no one is saying Hunter is the solution. Edited March 13 by RichRiderBills 1 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Shakir and Kincaid are the slot players here. If you add a guy to the WR mix as the #4, it should be a pure speed guy, Quez Watkins, Andy Isabella, Scotty Miller, Mecole Hardman. I know Renfrow brings a lunchpail, but he doesn't move the needle at all. Ok, but who is our back-up slot WR? 1 Quote
Rigotz Posted March 13 Posted March 13 32 minutes ago, DapperCam said: Renfrow could come at a super cheap 1 year deal to play with Allen and boost his stats for a better payday down the road. This. He showed some fantastic route running and hands with a competent QB. When everyone else zigs, you zag. Think of him is excellent depth behind Shakir, our new WR2, and Diggs in case of injury. Quote
Buffalo03 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Not sure why he fell out of favor with the Raiders. You don't get 100 receptions in a season by being a bad player. A mix of injuries to just being in the doghouse. Not sure why. I'd take him on a 1 year deal 1 Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Process said: I don't want to bring him in, but just for perspective even though he is a slot receiver in the 2020s he has 57 more receptions than Gabe Davis in 4 less games. More TDs and higher YPR by Gabe, though. Quote
Saxum Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Only 28, I say kick the tires. https://www.nfl.com/news/raiders-to-release-wr-hunter-renfrow He is interested in being on practice squad? Quote
Bruffalo Posted March 13 Posted March 13 He's been one of best route runners in short yardage situations. He's an interesting prospect for the Bills but probably redundant with Shakir. That being said, if he was cheapish I don't think it's the worst idea. 1 Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13 Posted March 13 21 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Ok, but who is our back-up slot WR? The #4. Beane spoke about the 4 spot last year being a guy who can play in the slot, can play outside, and is a vertical threat. That's what they brought in Harty for. He was the 4 who also doubled as a backup slot. A guy like Renfrow is redundant and offers pretty much nothing outside of slot play. I don't think you need a straight backup slot. You also have Kincaid who plays some slot. Renfrow would serve no purpose on this roster IMO. 1 1 1 Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: The #4. Beane spoke about the 4 spot last year being a guy who can play in the slot, can play outside, and is a vertical threat. That's what they brought in Harty for. He was the 4 who also doubled as a backup slot. A guy like Renfrow is redundant and offers pretty much nothing outside of slot play. I don't think you need a straight backup slot. You also have Kincaid who plays some slot. Renfrow would serve no purpose on this roster IMO. Fair enough. Do you have a good source for slot vs wide reps? Quote
Westside Posted March 13 Posted March 13 We have three guys signed! How many WR’s do you think Beane is going to draft? Even if he takes two in the draft there is no way we’re going into the season with that much unproven talent and depth. As far as Shakir being a slot guy, he really wasn’t a slot guy last year. He lined up wide most of his reps. I would take Renfro in a second and let the best player win the starting position and the other be depth. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Fair enough. Do you have a good source for slot vs wide reps? Renfrow was in the slot for 86.5% of his snaps in 2023. https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/hunter-renfrow/ A guy like Hardman played 56% of his snaps in the slot. Quez Watkins was a 63% guy. So those guys have some flex ability. Just for data purposes, Kincaid played 50% of his snaps from the slot and Shakir played 69%. Harty was 50%. Isaiah Mckenzie in the 4 role in 2021 played in the slot 43% of the time, while that same year, the pure slot Beasley was there for 82% of his snaps. I think we will see Shakir's snaps go up some in the slot. This team needs an outside starter #2. They also need what Beane calls his 4, that guy who can play inside and outside and help on special teams. Edited March 13 by MrEpsYtown 1 Quote
Westside Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, 4merper4mer said: Pretty sure he’s on the Royals. Let’s sign him too! Quote
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: No. We already have enough of these skill sets, that are better and cheaper We actually don't have anyone with Renfrow's skill set. Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, vtnatefootball11 said: We actually don't have anyone with Renfrow's skill set. Sure do, better than with Shakir. So answer remains No. Go get WRs in the Generational WR Draft. 1 Quote
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Just now, MAJBobby said: Sure do, better than with Shakir. So answer remains No. Go get WRs in the Generational WR Draft. I absolutely want the Bills to take an outside WR in the first (and another soon after), but Shakir is not strictly a slot guy and we don't have anyone with Renfrow's route running ability, not even close. Don't get lazy just comparing height, Shakir and Renfrow are very different receivers. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 minute ago, vtnatefootball11 said: I absolutely want the Bills to take an outside WR in the first (and another soon after), but Shakir is not strictly a slot guy and we don't have anyone with Renfrow's route running ability, not even close. Don't get lazy just comparing height, Shakir and Renfrow are very different receivers. Diggs is the BEST route runner in the NFL. Nice Try. Clearly you do not watch Shakir route running either. I know Shakir is Better than Renfrow. 1 Quote
vtnatefootball11 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Diggs plays all over the field and is a great route runner no doubt, but he's not the best in the NFL, cmon man have some objectivity. Shakir is a good route runner as well (not better than Renfrow, you clearly haven't watched much of him) but I'm talking about adding pure slot receiver, elite route runner, someone who always gets open. We haven't had it since Beasley, it's a nice security blanket for Josh and gives us depth so we aren't banking on just Diggs/Shakir/rookie. 1 Quote
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