Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, 90sBills said: Should’ve signed Willie Gay instead. NO got a quality starter for cheap. yea that is fantastic for the Saints 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 12 Posted March 12 15 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: My guess is they're being patient there. The WR market has been pretty slow, as teams are looking at this year's Draft crop and are hesitant to pull the trigger on big price tags when they can find someone in the Draft that represents equal or greater talent. I don't see us paying for someone that's going to cost starting WR money. You don't pay that unless you're planning on them starting and they probably aren't going to come here unless that's guaranteed. I don't think we want to do that as the plan is for that to be our 1st Round pick. We're probably looking at guys like Josh Reynolds, DJ Chark, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, K.J. Osborn, Van Jefferson, or Mecole Hardman. Guys that will come at an Outside WR3 price tag that you feel comfortable starting if the Rookie takes a little while to get his feet under him. He's probably waiting for that market to play itself out a little bit as to get a good price on someone like that. I agree. With the big WR class it will also open up a team willing to trade a vet WR (or even outright cuts). Beane can then sign a vet with Tre's cap. It's a tight cap year and Bills fans have to be patient. 1 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12 Posted March 12 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I agree. With the big WR class it will also open up a team willing to trade a vet WR (or even outright cuts). Beane can then sign a vet with Tre's cap. It's a tight cap year and Bills fans have to be patient. People look at the moves we made and think that meant we were going to be active early in FA. The truth is we had to make those moves just to be able to get under the cap and make moves to fill the starting holes we had on Defense so that we could Draft a WR in Round 1 and fill some of the 20+ bodies that we were moving on from. Things like only getting 16.5 instead of 24 out of Josh's restructure and just getting 2.5 on a Douglas restructure instead of an extension hampered us more and neutralized Von's unexpected move. Other things like an Oliver restructure or a Taron Johnson extension also haven't been done. So we're effectively nowhere right now until we do. We were never going to be major players in the first couple days of FA. As you said, patience is key right now. We were always going to play things much like we did last year. Trying to get the best of what's left after the spending spree - on good prices. Edited March 12 by BillsFanForever19 2 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 12 Posted March 12 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: People look at the moves we made and think that meant we were going to be active early in FA. The truth is we had to make those moves just to be able to get under the cap and make moves to fill the starting holes we had and the 20+ bodies that we were moving on from. Things like only getting 16.5 instead of 24 out of Josh's restructure and just getting 2.5 on a Douglas restructure instead of an extension hampered us more and neutralized Von's unexpected move. Other things like an Oliver restructure or a Taron Johnson extension also haven't been done. So we're effectively nowhere right now until we do. We were never going to be major players in the first couple days of FA. As you said, patience is key right now. We were always going to play things much like we did last year. Trying to get the best of what's left after the spending spree - on good prices. Yep. Only need to look at Spotrac to see the money is almost gone. Quote
bobobonators Posted March 12 Posted March 12 3 hours ago, JMM said: Yikes, looking at the replies on Twitter the Philly fans are literally laughing at this signing. All I know is that the LB and secondary were trash for them last year If there is one thing I trust this regime on is finding secondary and LB talent that others miss. 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted March 12 Posted March 12 53 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Yeah and I was hoping the likes of Rapp and Lewis and Morrow would be filled in by those cheap draft picks, not veteran contracts. Obviously the entire depth of the roster isn't going to be just rookies but can't these sorts of signings wait until we know what our draft class looks like? 100% agree. I love Beane but he’s got itchy finger sometimes lol. Needs to take some Ritalin. Quote
ngbills Posted March 12 Posted March 12 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Yeah and I was hoping the likes of Rapp and Lewis and Morrow would be filled in by those cheap draft picks, not veteran contracts. Obviously the entire depth of the roster isn't going to be just rookies but can't these sorts of signings wait until we know what our draft class looks like? Not to mention how often these don’t make the roster but cost from $500k to $1m in cap hits anyway. Quote
HappyDays Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, 90sBills said: Should’ve signed Willie Gay instead. NO got a quality starter for cheap. Why would we sign a starting LB? That would have been a terrible use of resources. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 13 Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Yeah and I was hoping the likes of Rapp and Lewis and Morrow would be filled in by those cheap draft picks, not veteran contracts. Obviously the entire depth of the roster isn't going to be just rookies but can't these sorts of signings wait until we know what our draft class looks like? This is correct and like you, I am very confused. I would rather have gotten a young starter quality S in FA at a decent contract and then fill in the 49-53 spots after the draft and we see what shakes out. the whole FA period has been odd. Retaining an old 32 DT and a rotational DE. I thought we were gonna get younger and/or cheaper. it’s far too close to “running it back” to my liking. Edited March 13 by FireChans 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 13 Posted March 13 21 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: No YouTube highlights of Morrow? Not many, just that 3 sack game from this year and the safety. Quote
90sBills Posted March 13 Posted March 13 51 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Why would we sign a starting LB? That would have been a terrible use of resources. Didn’t Bills just signed a LB? Quote
MasterStrategist Posted March 13 Posted March 13 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: Yeah and I was hoping the likes of Rapp and Lewis and Morrow would be filled in by those cheap draft picks, not veteran contracts. Obviously the entire depth of the roster isn't going to be just rookies but can't these sorts of signings wait until we know what our draft class looks like? The Rapp signing is my only issue thus far, as I was hoping for a legit starter via FA. Perhaps they still have a plan there. Lewis is super cheap, provides best ROI for his familiarity with system and position versatility/ST play. Re: Morrow, all I can think is there could be concern with: 1. Injuries occurring again AND/OR 2. Dorian might not pick things up yet in Year 2. It's a fact that the injury bug hit us hard LY, especially at LB. But after seeing what happened against KC, I don't think they wanted a rookie in the LB4 spot (especially a late pick) and Dorian hasn't proved anything, except his athleticism. McDs Def philosophy revolves around strong LB play. Having a dependable LB3 is a good investment, given recent injury luck and what we have on roster. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Why would we sign a starting LB? That would have been a terrible use of resources. Yeah, posters are constantly looking at starters and trying to place them on the team as depth or rotational players - as if they'd agree to sign with us for that role or we'd pay what it takes for said player for said role. Quote
Dunkirk Donski Posted March 13 Posted March 13 Remember last year when all our LB’s sucked? Somehow the coaching staff fixed that. The defensive staff must see something in this guy. They deserve our trust 1 Quote
Blainorama5 Posted March 13 Posted March 13 5 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: At least he has starting experience Exactly. This has to be a simple depth signing Quote
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