Josh Allen restructured

[NoHuddleKelly12]

9 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

With Cousins getting $45M today, $56M might be about right next offseason. 

Cousins & his family having to make small talk with the toll booth attendant on their way to ATL…

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

You think so?  I was thinking the $10-$12 million range.  

Gabe Davis just got around that. Ridley is far superior overall

 

Now if we wanted Ridley bad enough we could structure a deal to bring his cap hit this season down to 10-12

Edited March 12 by Warriorspikes51

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, BBFL said:

I really don’t get the Hollywood Brown train…

He is the biggest WR “name” left ..other than Ridley who Is too expensive 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, Green Lightning said:

$7 mil here and $5 mil here and pretty soon you're talking really money...

Not with Josh Allen. He’s not going anywhere anytime soon. That’s the one thing we know. 

[Chicken Boo]

Just now, Warriorspikes51 said:

Gabe Davis just got around that. Ridley is far superior overall

 

I agree, but he's also 29 and I would assume, deemed a risk post-gambling suspension.  

[BillsFanForever19]

3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

You think so?  I was thinking the $10-$12 million range.  

 

Gabe Davis just got 13m per year on a 3 year deal that can go up to 50m. Ridley should get more than that, but he definitely won't get less.

Edited March 12 by BillsFanForever19

[3rdand12]

8 minutes ago, boyst said:

Milano

Good counterpoint ?

team focused Stephie ?

 

dont see it

Johnson , likely

[ngbills]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

And what you don’t spend this year can be carried over. It makes no difference. Basically by not taking all of it tells me there’s a self imposed cash limit set by the owner. In other words the owner isn’t a blank check this year. 

That is my thought as well. Energy is down…

[Buffalo_Stampede]

9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

It is. Deal with it.

The cap is not real cash! It’s not. The cap # is real, but you can spend a lot more cash than that. 

[MJS]

13 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. 

They do, but it only goes so far. Beane has been balancing it all very well, but it takes a savvy GM to make it all work. You also have to have an owner willing to write big checks.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

They do, but it only goes so far. Beane has been balancing it all very well, but it takes a savvy GM to make it all work. You also have to have an owner willing to write big checks.

And to be fair to Pegula he has been spending like crazy. This might be a slow down year for him.

[BBFL]

7 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

He is the biggest WR “name” left ..other than Ridley who Is too expensive 

I mean, I get it. I just don’t know why there isn’t the hammering of the table for guys who are just as productive and will just as much or less… Curtis Samuel, Tyler Boyd, DPJ, Noah Brown… Even that Agnew kid. 
 

Eh, to each their own I guess. 

Ok maybe Samuel, but Hollywood is as much a consistent mention around here as Ridley. 

[Brandon]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

And what you don’t spend this year can be carried over. It makes no difference. Basically by not taking all of it tells me there’s a self imposed cash limit set by the owner. In other words the owner isn’t a blank check this year. 

 

I think it's just Beane trying to get the cap situation under control this year.  

[Draconator]

30 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

Do we really need a new thread for this?

Do your friends pass out Xanax at parties you attend?

[BBFL]

1 minute ago, Draconator said:

Do your friends pass out Xanax at parties you attend?

He is the provider… 

 

[ColoradoBills]

I'm fine with Beane not taking every dollar out of Josh's contract.  If he HAS to later, he can go back to the well.

 

KC is doing the same with Mahomes.  Mahomes has had $36M and $37M cap hits the last 2 years.

[Bad Things]

I love you, Josh Allen!

[BarleyNY]

33 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Can someone explain the downside of this? Like why wouldn’t every team in cap trouble just restructure as signing bonuses? I know it’s a dumb question. But I don’t know the answer. 

 

A few reasons:

- Some don’t have the cash (literally).

- Most teams simply don’t want to spend the maximum possible.

- It’s used in negotiations. It’s difficult to tell a FA that you can’t pay him more when you’re sitting on a ton of cap space.

- PR. It’s a bad look to the fans if you have cap space you’re not using, especially when your team isn’t performing as well as they’d like.

- Fear of another Covid-style event where the cap decreases. That could potential be a huge issue.

- Suspensions have less of an impact since game checks not paid to the player are not counted toward the cap. 

- Maximizing the use of signing bonuses can be done long term (see how the Browns are operating), but it can’t really be meshed with an “all in” play. Teams can stay the course or let their foot off the gas, but they can’t do much more in the way of ramping up spending. The Browns are spending at a rate of about 121% of the yearly cap IN CASH. That’s sustainable as long as the cap goes up at expected rates.

 

Hope that helps. 

[pennstate10]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

We could have gotten $23M but we chose not to kick all of it to future years. I guess they figured $16M is enough to do what they want to do in free agency.

Seems like a smart idea to me. 
 

But if something comes up, can the Bills restructure it agin this off season?

[BarleyNY]

4 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Seems like a smart idea to me. 
 

But if something comes up, can the Bills restructure it agin this off season?

It looks like they left the extra as salary, so yes. If it was a roster bonus, then they could not once it was paid.