CaptnCoke11 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 29 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I'd hate it more of the Bills secondary depth wasn't a complete nightmare at the moment. Well when you’re in salary cap hell this is what happens Quote
Beast Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: What is with this team's love affair with Cam Lewis. Keep keeping mediocrity. Are you expecting starting caliber talent at your 5th option at CB or backup safety? Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I'm not the biggest fans of Lewis but at that cost it's not bad for a 6th/7th CB. Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 11 Posted March 11 meh. I feel like you can just get another UDFA to do what he does. 1 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Lewis will replace Siran Neal backing up Taron Johnson in the slot... He can also play Safety in a pinch ... He also makes more Special Teams tackles than anyone on the team. Good re-signing 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Lewis will replace Siran Neal backing up Taron Johnson in the slot... He can also play Safety in a pinch ... He also makes more Special Teams tackles than anyone on the team. Good re-signing That's exactly how I see it. He is versatile that way. 1 Quote
Mat68 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Special teams, and back up to nickel and safety. Solid piece. Can compete for safety if needed. Like the idea of grabbing a few guys day 3. May avoid FA safety all together and go Dline and rb. We will see. Quote
ngbills Posted March 11 Posted March 11 These deals kill me. We are so willing to waste a million here and there that could add up to a $10M difference maker. This role that Cam Lewis plays could be a rookie or min level contract. McD is stuck on keeping the familiar with all these guys. 15 minutes ago, Beast said: Are you expecting starting caliber talent at your 5th option at CB or backup safety? No I am expecting a rookie or similar value contract. Let Lewis walk. 1 1 1 Quote
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 11 Posted March 11 52 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Joe Marino will be happy … has been riding this guy hard for weeks I forget what number he was wanting him at, but I think he only had him at 1 million a year range. This is a little high, but not crazy. 1 Quote
MJS Posted March 11 Posted March 11 54 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said: Justin Jefferson is happy about this signing Funny Lewis gets blasted for this all the time, because he was exactly where he should be, stuck to one of the best receivers in the league in coverage and he made a play on the ball. It took a generational grab in order for Jefferson to come down with that. Lewis is pretty decent, honestly. 12 minutes ago, ngbills said: These deals kill me. We are so willing to waste a million here and there that could add up to a $10M difference maker. This role that Cam Lewis plays could be a rookie or min level contract. McD is stuck on keeping the familiar with all these guys. No I am expecting a rookie or similar value contract. Let Lewis walk. I guess you have beef with all 32 teams. They all make signings like this. You have to fill out your roster. They all sign cheap depth guys. They all value time in the system. Quote
NoSaint Posted March 11 Posted March 11 55 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Not really a fan of this. Lewis and Rapp are not guys you sign on day zero of FA. If they sign elsewhere so be it, we can find cheaper options on day 3 of the draft or in late stage FA. McDermott is a little too obsessed with continuity at depth positions IMO. we likely offered him the deal like 3 months ago, let him test the waters and he came back some of you are really hung up on specific timing of day 1 being important Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 11 Posted March 11 WTF, how is this guy given a contract??? He's barely above PS talent. He could be replaced with any street free agent or 7th round draft pick. Complete was of cap space. First terrible move of the off season for Beane 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted March 11 Posted March 11 32 minutes ago, Beast said: Are you expecting starting caliber talent at your 5th option at CB or backup safety? I'm expecting to pay a 5th rounder 900k for the next 4 years rather than waste 4M on a perennial mediocre backup. You like Cam, I don't. Quote
Don Otreply Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Process said: 💦 Is that up to four million with incentives…, Quote
Saxum Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: Not really a fan of this. Lewis and Rapp are not guys you sign on day zero of FA. If they sign elsewhere so be it, we can find cheaper options on day 3 of the draft or in late stage FA. McDermott is a little too obsessed with continuity at depth positions IMO. Some people are not designed to be Happy. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Is that up to four million with incentives…, We have to wait. It's agent numbers. I'm going to say his 2024 cap hit will be $1.6M or so and he won't cost anything much at all to cut in 2025. I think that's ok for a 75% snap count ST player and a serviceable DB who can play multiple positions and familiar with the D. 1 Quote
Beast Posted March 11 Posted March 11 16 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I'm expecting to pay a 5th rounder 900k for the next 4 years rather than waste 4M on a perennial mediocre backup. You like Cam, I don't. Yeah, I get a lot of people don’t like him because he didn’t knock a pass down against the Vikings. Quote
HappyDays Posted March 11 Posted March 11 26 minutes ago, NoSaint said: some of you are really hung up on specific timing of day 1 being important It's important because it means we didn't wait to see if cheaper options would be available in the draft and late stage FA. We have all of these day 3 picks not to mention UDFA, surely one of those players can fill Lewis's role. Or if not we could always sign a capable player in June. I just don't understand why we continue to prioritize this caliber of player versus letting the market develop and using all of that added up cap savings to pay a player that makes a meaningful difference to the team. Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's important because it means we didn't wait to see if cheaper options would be available in the draft and late stage FA. We have all of these day 3 picks not to mention UDFA, surely one of those players can fill Lewis's role. Or if not we could always sign a capable player in June. I just don't understand why we continue to prioritize this caliber of player versus letting the market develop and using all of that added up cap savings to pay a player that makes a meaningful difference to the team. This is about special teams is the answer. Now I am not about to tell you Cam is a great teams player in the way I did defending Taiwan Jones in the era when his roster presence wound some people up. However, with Matakevich and Neal gone the fact they brought Lewis back doesn't surprise me. He did actually play pretty well on defense last year when he got his chances too. I am less bothered about this deal than I am the Taylor Rapp one but I agree it is a strange one to prioritise day 1. Quote
NoSaint Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: This is about special teams is the answer. Now I am not about to tell you Cam is a great teams player in the way I did defending Taiwan Jones in the era when his roster presence wound some people up. However, with Matakevich and Neal gone the fact they brought Lewis back doesn't surprise me. He did actually play pretty well on defense last year when he got his chances too. I am less bothered about this deal than I am the Taylor Rapp one but I agree it is a strange one to prioritise day 1. Rapp bothered me much more as it’s a buyers market and he’d be low on my list this one I assume was just a “here’s your offer” sent back in late Feb and then he agreed today. I’m not sure it was much of a priority. It’s basically a hair above league minimum 2 Quote
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