Warcodered Posted March 11 Posted March 11 (edited) Solid TE 2 restructures his deal to help the team out probably in the normal way, thread full of people crapping on him and asking if it's a pay cut even though nobody really does that ever. Edited March 11 by Warcodered 3 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 It's amazing how cut throat it gets when you are in the bottom of the league with positive cap space. And you had such a bad group of contract signings of just of a few players. Von Miller's contract is really coming to fruition on its detriment and negative effect on this team. I still think this VM contract was the worst FA signing in Bills history. 1 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 11 Author Posted March 11 So Knox this year was. 4.91M Base 1.4M Signing Bonus 5M Roster Bonus. I am guessing that Roster Bonus is the place they reworked. Though maybe it was a tear up and redo of the contract (doubt it) Quote
Saxum Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Just now, Toyo321 said: It's amazing how cut throat it gets when you are in the bottom of the league with positive cap space. And you had such a bad group of contract signings of just of a few players. Von Miller's contract is really coming to fruition on its detriment and negative effect on this team. I still think this VM contract was the worst FA signing in Bills history. If he had not been injured would you have same opinion @Nostradamus? 2 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Thata boy Dawson!! Dare I say.....can Diggs rework his deal? You know darn well that’s not happening 🤣 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Hey Stefon Diggs, Brandon Beane would like to ask you a question? 1 5 Quote
HappyDays Posted March 11 Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Solid TE 2 restructures his deal to help the team out probably in the normal way, thread full of people crapping on him and asking if it's a pay cut even though nobody really does that ever. It is a paycut. Players do it all the time if they know the alternative is a release and the risk of having to accept an even worse salary. And typically I am against the paycuts Beane gives out, historically they have still ended up being a waste of money. But in this case it was the only realistic means of saving money on Knox's contract without tying up more future money. 4 Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 11 Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I was told a couple weeks ago Knox was approached about a paycut. I'm not sure what leverage we used considering his dead money hit would have been higher than his normal cap hit, but I'm glad to see he accepted the paycut. Perhaps we threatened a release with a post-6/1 designation? Glad to see Beane being especially ruthless this offseason. It is a necessary change. I don't know, as we have not seen the money, is that Beane was able to layer incentives on Von's deal. Due to the way that incentives are structured, "not likely to be earned" can mean a modest improvement over that happened the previous year and do not count until next years cap. So "play 15 games", "500 receiving yards", "6 TD" (all numbers he hit in 2022) would apply and could mean he gets even more take home money if he bets on himself. Of course, if he is just a dud and gets outstripped by Kincaid he gets injured he gets none of it. If that's Beane's strategy to get out of bad contact years for underperforming players, it's kind of genius Quote
Billl Posted March 11 Posted March 11 6 minutes ago, Logic said: Imagine working you way up the depth chart, balling out, and signing a big contract to be the TE1 of a top offense for years to come. Then the very next offseason your team trades up in the 1st round to select another tight end, and the offseason after that, they're knocking on your day asking you to take a paycut. Tough business. Now imagine you’re the next guy they approach about signing a contract with them. 1 1 1 Quote
boyst Posted March 11 Posted March 11 i swear someone who knew something said something on here about this last week 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 7 minutes ago, Punching Bag said: If he had not been injured would you have same opinion @Nostradamus? Yes Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted March 11 Posted March 11 At this point I am more surprised that we seen Von and Knox cuts rather than extensions on Dawkins and TJ. Quote
boyst Posted March 11 Posted March 11 17 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I was told a couple weeks ago Knox was approached about a paycut. I'm not sure what leverage we used considering his dead money hit would have been higher than his normal cap hit, but I'm glad to see he accepted the paycut. Perhaps we threatened a release with a post-6/1 designation? Glad to see Beane being especially ruthless this offseason. It is a necessary change. that's what i was wondering when it was mentioned. how and why and all of that was it possible? i can only fathom the depth of WR's in the draft as well as some top end TE's made this happen. a post June 1 release would have been difficult for both sides, regardless. i cannot believe he did this but appreciate it. it was hard to believe at the time. I would love a scenario where the Bills have Brock Bowers available in the first and see what they do, regardless. the next two rumors i heard will be interesting to see if they come out - two restructures. one could be surprising to most @ LB. Quote
NewEra Posted March 11 Posted March 11 12 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Solid TE 2 restructures his deal to help the team out probably in the normal way, thread full of people crapping on him and asking if it's a pay cut even though nobody really does that ever. Ever…..one of our players doing exactly that last week Quote
SCBills Posted March 11 Posted March 11 9 minutes ago, Billl said: Now imagine you’re the next guy they approach about signing a contract with them. I'm pretty sure we did this with Mitch Morse a few years back. I don't think there's ever been a concern amongst players about Brandon Beane not being someone they respect with communication/negotiation etc. Quote
ExWNYer Posted March 11 Posted March 11 5 minutes ago, boyst said: the next two rumors i heard will be interesting to see if they come out - two restructures. one could be surprising to most @ LB. Does it rhyme with Katt Silano? 🤔 2 Quote
DapperCam Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I don’t really understand Von and Knox taking pay cuts. What leverage do the Bills have in this scenarios? They can’t really cut these guys due to the dead cap. Why do the players say yes? 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: I don’t really understand Von and Knox taking pay cuts. What leverage do the Bills have in this scenarios? They can’t really cut these guys due to the dead cap. Why do the players say yes? Culture 7 Quote
drummernut74 Posted March 11 Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I don’t really understand Von and Knox taking pay cuts. What leverage do the Bills have in this scenarios? They can’t really cut these guys due to the dead cap. Why do the players say yes? Because they are true team players that want to WIN in Buffalo, and have a unique set of principles 2 1 Quote
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