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Comparing to the chiefs and 49ers the 2 SB teams, here's how I'm going to categorize as elite:

 

-Made 1st team/2nd all pro last year

-Top 3/4 at position. (For example, Josh and Mahomes are elite even though they didn't get voted all pros)

 

So for the bills I got 3 players but technically only 2 last year cause the Milano injury.

 

-Josh, Milano, Taron. 


Chiefs: 7 players 

 

-Mahomes, Kelce, thuney, humphries, C Jones, Mcduffie, Sneed

 

49ers: Hufanga got hurt so technically 7 players

 

-Mccafery, Aiyuk, T Williams, Kittle, Bosa, Warner, Hufanga, Chardavious Ward

(I didn't include their fullback)

 

So in the playoffs if you factor in injuries, bills had 2 "elite" players based on the all pro selection/my opinion.

 

Chiefs 7

 

And 49ers 7 with the Hufanga injury.

 

While the bills have a lot of good to very good players, I really think they are missing some game breakers on this team.

 

What do you guys think?

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4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

No

 

1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

No

So far this is going better than I thought, thought I would be getting a bit of disagreement haha

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8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Comparing to the chiefs and 49ers the 2 SB teams, here's how I'm going to categorize as elite:

 

-Made 1st team/2nd all pro last year

-Top 3/4 at position. (For example, Josh and Mahomes are elite even though they didn't get voted all pros)

 

So for the bills I got 3 players but technically only 2 last year cause the Milano injury.

 

-Josh, Milano, Taron. 


Chiefs: 7 players 

 

-Mahomes, Kelce, thuney, humphries, C Jones, Mcduffie, Sneed

 

49ers: Hufanga got hurt so technically 6 players

 

-Mccafery, Aiyuk, T Williams, Kittle, Warner, Hufanga, Chardavious Ward

(I didn't include their fullback)

 

So in the playoffs if you factor in injuries, bills had 2 "elite" players based on the all pro selection/my opinion.

 

Chiefs 7

 

And 49ers 6 with the Hufanga injury.

 

While the bills have a lot of good to very good players, I really think they are missing some game breakers on this team.

 

What do you guys think?

No.

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Just now, BillsFan130 said:

 

So far this is going better than I thought, thought I would be getting a bit of disagreement haha

I think it’s pretty obvious this team lacks elite talent, but I’m sure you’ll find some who think otherwise.

 

17 is carrying this team in a big way.

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No.....and that's a big part of the problem.  We are every bit as good as the Chiefs in a lot of ways, mainly thanks to Josh.  But with the games we play against them, it is always guys like Kelce and Chris Jones......HUGE IMPACT PLAYERS, that ultimately beat us in the end.  We don't have players like that, outside the QB position, that can turn a game by themselves.  Diggs is supposed to be one of those guys, but he disappears in the biggest moments against that team.

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6 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Comparing to the chiefs and 49ers the 2 SB teams, here's how I'm going to categorize as elite:

 

-Made 1st team/2nd all pro last year

-Top 3/4 at position. (For example, Josh and Mahomes are elite even though they didn't get voted all pros)

 

So for the bills I got 3 players but technically only 2 last year cause the Milano injury.

 

-Josh, Milano, Taron. 


Chiefs: 7 players 

 

-Mahomes, Kelce, thuney, humphries, C Jones, Mcduffie, Sneed

 

49ers: Hufanga got hurt so technically 6 players

 

-Mccafery, Aiyuk, T Williams, Kittle, Warner, Hufanga, Chardavious Ward

(I didn't include their fullback)

 

So in the playoffs if you factor in injuries, bills had 2 "elite" players based on the all pro selection/my opinion.

 

Chiefs 7

 

And 49ers 6 with the Hufanga injury.

 

While the bills have a lot of good to very good players, I really think they are missing some game breakers on this team.

 

What do you guys think?

Agreed. The days are gone for spending money on special teams and d line rotations. It a barbell of 5-7 exceptional players, not a lot of very good in the middle and then cheap raw talent at the bottom to balance the cap.

 

We tried to go th very good with a few difference makers and it hasn't worked.

 

 

 

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Just now, julian said:

I think it’s pretty obvious this team lacks elite talent, but I’m sure you’ll find some who think otherwise.

 

17 is carrying this team in a big way.

Ya when you really break it down kinda like I did , it's crazy how much Josh carries this team.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

 

So far this is going better than I thought, thought I would be getting a bit of disagreement haha

Top guys get you over the top, we see it every year in the postseason

 

For example we love taron Johnson for what he brings but the space between his cover ability and McDuffie is enough to knock him from elite status w comparison to chiefs imo

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This has been Beanes biggest issue....he finds a bunch of B/B+ guys to accompany Josh and Stefon, latter is now a B-type guy.

 

It's a solid/very good roster, but not enough star power.  Von was supposed to be the elite guy, along with Tre coming back from injury, but things went sideways.

 

We need to be "elite" on one side of the ball at least.  Either stack up the defense, or more suitable for this draft, stack the WR room and OL.

 

McDermott is a very good defensive mind and we can win a SB with an elite offense and tier 2 defense.  Just need another playmaker, upgrade on Morse, and hopefully we see Kincaid/Shakir continue improving.  

 

Rd 1 WR and Rd 2 G/C, just might put us at elite offense...if they hit on the picks and a WR4 in FA.

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The Bills have had really good teams with good depth. What they have been missing are those X factor players. You need 3, and one of them needs to be the QB. The Bills have Josh Allen. Diggs used to be one, but I don't think he is anymore. Tre White was once upon a time, but injuries happened and he is gone.

 

Let's hope some players develop and we have some good drafts.

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Just now, GoBills808 said:

Top guys get you over the top, we see it every year in the postseason

 

For example we love taron Johnson for what he brings but the space between his cover ability and McDuffie is enough to knock him from elite status w comparison to chiefs imo

Ya I agree. Taron in my opinion is a very good player, but isn't elite.

 

I was just trying to bring a little objectivity to it as he did get voted 2nd team all pro, so by the rule I made, had to technically say he was "elite"

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No

 

For all the love Beane gets, the roster is lacking talent and the cap/contract situation is bad. Allen does everything for this team, including making the coach and GM look better than they are.

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It's pretty premature to call McDuffie a top three cornerback in the NFL lol

 

Plenty of corners have short stints of success and fall off but to be top five you need to get it done for a long time.. he's no prime Gilmore

 

And people thought the Bills middle linebacker would suck this year only to be in shock and awe about how good our development can actually be

 

The bills have plenty of talent established and rising to contend

 

We got destroyed by the injury bug.. and still could have won or tied the game on the last possession before wide right

 

The Gap is not huge

 

It's literally a few plays

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