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Joe Marino from Locked on Bills does some really good work. I watch a lot of his stuff.

 

He did a video the other day where he played the role of Brandon Beane and took the wheel in Free Agency. Broke things down pretty well in a realistic fashion, why each player fits, and included forecasted numbers from Pro Football Focus.

 

Here's the video with Cliff notes below of the moves he suggested:

 

 

Re-Structure QB Josh Allen - Saves 24m

Re-Structure TE Dawson Knox - Saves 6m

Re-Structure DT Ed Oliver - Saves 3.94m

Extend OT Dion Dawkins - Saves 6.5m

Extend CB Taron Johnson - Saves 4.4m

 

36.6m Under (+10.2m on 6/1 from Tre)

 

Re-Sign DT Daquan Jones - 2 yr 12m

Re-Sign DE AJ Epenesa - 3 yr 20.25m
Re-Sign CB Dane Jackson - 1 yr 3m
Re-Sign CB Cam Lewis - 1 yr 2m
Re-Sign RB Ty Johnson - 1 yr 1.2m

 

Sign DT Shelby Harris - 1 yr 3m
Sign DT Greg Gaines - 1 yr 2m
Sign DE Carl Lawson - 1 yr 3.5m
Sign S Alohi Gilman - 2 yr 6m
Sign S Ashtyn Davis - 1 yr 2m
Sign C Brian Allen - (Forgets to say contract)
Sign OT Kendall Lamm - 1 yr 1.5m
Sign WR Noah Brown - 2 yr 7m
Sign WR/KR Devin Duvernay - 2 yr 6m
Sign RB Ezekiel Elliott - 1 yr 2.5m
Sign LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 1 yr 1.5m

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Love Joe’s show. He always puts in the work and backs everything up with solid facts and analytics. That is an aggressive free agency plan that most Bills fans would be delighted with.

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2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Joe Marino from Locked on Bills does some really good work. I watch a lot of his stuff.

 

He did a video the other day where he played the role of Brandon Beane and took the wheel in Free Agency. Broke things down pretty well in a realistic fashion, why each player fits, and included forecasted numbers from Pro Football Focus.

 

Here's the video with Cliff notes below of the moves he suggested:

 

 

Re-Structure QB Josh Allen - Saves 24m

Re-Structure TE Dawson Knox - Saves 6m

Re-Structure DT Ed Oliver - Saves 3.94m

Extend OT Dion Dawkins - Saves 6.5m

Extend CB Taron Johnson - Saves 4.4m

 

36.6m Under (+10.2m on 6/1 from Tre)

 

Re-Sign DT Daquan Jones - 2 yr 12m

Re-Sign DE AJ Epenesa - 3 yr 20.25m
Re-Sign CB Dane Jackson - 1 yr 3m
Re-Sign CB Cam Lewis - 1 yr 2m
Re-Sign RB Ty Johnson - 1 yr 1.2m

 

Sign DT Shelby Harris - 1 yr 3m
Sign DT Greg Gaines - 1 yr 2m
Sign DE Carl Lawson - 1 yr 3.5m
Sign S Alohi Gilman - 2 yr 6m
Sign S Ashtyn Davis - 1 yr 2m
Sign C Brian Allen - (Forgets to say contract)
Sign OT Kendall Lamm - 1 yr 1.5m
Sign WR Noah Brown - 2 yr 7m
Sign WR/KR Devin Duvernay - 2 yr 6m
Sign RB Ezekiel Elliott - 1 yr 2.5m
Sign LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 1 yr 1.5m

Got to admit I loved what he did with our own players (the restructures and re-signings of our own bills). I’m ok with the free agents BUT what I love is that he set it up to make sure we go WR in the draft so I’m happy with that. A lot were affordable depth players. I forgot how good Gilman was so nice snag for that money. He absolutely NAILED the only 2 WRs I’d go after this free agency period for the prices he got them for us. Great job overall Joe. Very impressed 


I’m actually excited to see his mock draft now and how the signings impact our Comp

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47 minutes ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Love Joe’s show. He always puts in the work and backs everything up with solid facts and analytics. That is an aggressive free agency plan that most Bills fans would be delighted with.

Marino is far and away the best Bills podcaster. Really puts in the work and his show just keeps getting better. Indispensable.

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1 hour ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

Love Joe’s show. He always puts in the work and backs everything up with solid facts and analytics. That is an aggressive free agency plan that most Bills fans would be delighted with.

Interesting , cause when I first listened I actually thought it was conservative.

 

You are absolutely right though that it's aggressive in clearing cap space and making moves.

 

But I think it's conservative in the fact that he didn't really go after any double digit million guys (per year) , and choose to spread the money out to a bunch of "middling " to "low end" guys.

 

I guess it depends how you look at it💪

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Joe B in the Athletic did one the other day too. Had the Bills extending and resigning some of same players specifically Jones and Lewis.  Had a fairly long list of FA signings too, though not sure of much overlap.  A couple names I do recall, instead of resigning D Jackson, had them bringing back Levi Wallace at CB  and for RB had them signing AJ Dillon, safety had them signing Geno Stone and Maurice Hurst for DT to name a few of his highlights.

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3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Joe Marino from Locked on Bills does some really good work. I watch a lot of his stuff.

 

He did a video the other day where he played the role of Brandon Beane and took the wheel in Free Agency. Broke things down pretty well in a realistic fashion, why each player fits, and included forecasted numbers from Pro Football Focus.

 

Here's the video with Cliff notes below of the moves he suggested:

 

 

Re-Structure QB Josh Allen - Saves 24m

Re-Structure TE Dawson Knox - Saves 6m

Re-Structure DT Ed Oliver - Saves 3.94m

Extend OT Dion Dawkins - Saves 6.5m

Extend CB Taron Johnson - Saves 4.4m

 

36.6m Under (+10.2m on 6/1 from Tre)

 

Re-Sign DT Daquan Jones - 2 yr 12m

Re-Sign DE AJ Epenesa - 3 yr 20.25m
Re-Sign CB Dane Jackson - 1 yr 3m
Re-Sign CB Cam Lewis - 1 yr 2m
Re-Sign RB Ty Johnson - 1 yr 1.2m

 

Sign DT Shelby Harris - 1 yr 3m
Sign DT Greg Gaines - 1 yr 2m
Sign DE Carl Lawson - 1 yr 3.5m
Sign S Alohi Gilman - 2 yr 6m
Sign S Ashtyn Davis - 1 yr 2m
Sign C Brian Allen - (Forgets to say contract)
Sign OT Kendall Lamm - 1 yr 1.5m
Sign WR Noah Brown - 2 yr 7m
Sign WR/KR Devin Duvernay - 2 yr 6m
Sign RB Ezekiel Elliott - 1 yr 2.5m
Sign LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 1 yr 1.5m

This is a really nice breakdown and some good solid work by Joe. I agree with the majority of it. I've said elsewhere that Duvernay just seems like a Beane target. Gilman is a really solid S that would fit very well. 

 

Not sure I want to bring in Zeke. But that's mainly personal preference. We will need IMO a RB2 as even if they do bring Ty Johnson back, he's not that. If Johnson's back it should be to fight for that RB3/PS RB role. Right now we have Darrynton Evans signed, who Johnson beat out for that role last year.

 

Brian Allen would be a sneaky good get. As would Carl Lawson IMO. I think he's got a little juice left.

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i get that the bills have no choice but to restructure allen, but he has counted less than 10% against the cap the last few years, including this past year. the depth on the roster wasn't good enough to overcome injuries. now his cap figure is going to be about double what it's been for remaining years on his contract, and that's before taking into account that he deserves a new deal. the bills have to start crushing drafts. endless restructures, void year contracts etc is not sustainable. 

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Here’s the 2nd part for anyone interested. Still very impressed. Not the WRs I would’ve taken in the draft BUT I do respect Ladd’s game and would be happy to call him a bill. Marino overall did a great job. Hope Beane is somewhat close to his overall template:

 

 

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7 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Here’s the 2nd part for anyone interested. Still very impressed. Not the WRs I would’ve taken in the draft BUT I do respect Ladd’s game and would be happy to call him a bill. Marino overall did a great job. Hope Beane is somewhat close to his overall template:

 

 

Ladd is exactly who we should draft. 

I do not bring back Jones. Oft injured the last couple of years and older.  IF I did,he doesn't see the field until late November.  I need him in from December to February. 

 

AJ is too inconsistent.  We need to find a guy that gets to the QB consistently 

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No to Zeke, we want to get younger not older. No to Jones, too injury prone.Pretty much everything else is solid.

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4 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Joe Marino from Locked on Bills does some really good work. I watch a lot of his stuff.

 

He did a video the other day where he played the role of Brandon Beane and took the wheel in Free Agency. Broke things down pretty well in a realistic fashion, why each player fits, and included forecasted numbers from Pro Football Focus.

 

Here's the video with Cliff notes below of the moves he suggested:

 

 

Re-Structure QB Josh Allen - Saves 24m

Re-Structure TE Dawson Knox - Saves 6m

Re-Structure DT Ed Oliver - Saves 3.94m

Extend OT Dion Dawkins - Saves 6.5m

Extend CB Taron Johnson - Saves 4.4m

 

36.6m Under (+10.2m on 6/1 from Tre)

 

Re-Sign DT Daquan Jones - 2 yr 12m

Re-Sign DE AJ Epenesa - 3 yr 20.25m
Re-Sign CB Dane Jackson - 1 yr 3m
Re-Sign CB Cam Lewis - 1 yr 2m
Re-Sign RB Ty Johnson - 1 yr 1.2m

 

Sign DT Shelby Harris - 1 yr 3m
Sign DT Greg Gaines - 1 yr 2m
Sign DE Carl Lawson - 1 yr 3.5m
Sign S Alohi Gilman - 2 yr 6m
Sign S Ashtyn Davis - 1 yr 2m
Sign C Brian Allen - (Forgets to say contract)
Sign OT Kendall Lamm - 1 yr 1.5m
Sign WR Noah Brown - 2 yr 7m
Sign WR/KR Devin Duvernay - 2 yr 6m
Sign RB Ezekiel Elliott - 1 yr 2.5m
Sign LB Del'Shawn Phillips - 1 yr 1.5m

Better hit on some studs in the draft if this is the plan.  16 guys and Ty Johnson might be the biggest difference maker on that list.   

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I hope the bills don't re structure Knox.

 

i believe there's an out after next year, and I would rather cut ties with his contract opposed to committing to it longer 

 

Whether you're a Knox fan or not, Objectively it's a bad contract, so why would you marry yourself to it 

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