Bills Cap Status - Approx $4.25 under cap 4/03/2024 (added roster change summary)

[GASabresIUFan]

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/austin-johnson-18992/

 

Bills at DL depth with former Charger starter Austin Johnson.  1 year $3.5 million.  Cap Hit TBD.

 

[GASabresIUFan]

Taron Johnson’s extension now in the numbers.  $12.5 under the cap before the recent signings.  Beane says he has about $8 million.

[Turbo44]

30 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Taron Johnson’s extension now in the numbers.  $12.5 under the cap before the recent signings.  Beane says he has about $8 million.

and $18 million post 6.1.24

 

$7 million:  Clowney 3 years 25 million, $9 million signing bonus, salaries; $2 million/$6 million/$8 million

$3 million:  Hyde, 1 more year, 1 year $3 million

$3 million:  Trey, 3 years $20m; $3 million singing bonus, salaries: $2 million/$6 million/$8 million

 

$15 million left for Picks/Taxi Squad; call it a great offseason

[RyanC883]

On 3/19/2024 at 10:01 AM, Mango said:

Looking ahead we started this offseason predicting the teams 2025 cap situation would be around $25M under. As of this AM on Spotrac our 2025 cap number is already $10M OVER. 

Moving on from Von next year helps. They can restructure Allen again. Plus some roll over will make up for that. 

 

But I cannot help but think the regime is tempted to move on from Diggs as a post June 1 cut/trade to free up $19M with the possibility of rolling all or most of it over into 2025. Then they get another $5M in relief the following year. 

 

If they feel they can get some rookie production in camp from their first pick, Kalil can flash on the outside to fill Davis' role, and Samuel in the slot  it may give them the cajones to roll into the offseason with that group. 

 

this would be great. and with other holes filled depth wise I could see us trading into 15 or below if Thomas is around.  (even Mitchell perhaps).  If we stay st 28 perhaps double dip Mitchell (Thomas ideally) then Polk or trade up in 2 for Legette. 

[K-9]

58 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Taron Johnson’s extension now in the numbers.  $12.5 under the cap before the recent signings.  Beane says he has about $8 million.

Is Tre the only designated post June 1st cut? 

[GASabresIUFan]

4 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Is Tre the only designated post June 1st cut? 

Yes

[GASabresIUFan]

Cap space at $10 mill with the, D Williams, Clapp and A. Johnson’s contracts not accounted for. Edwards (S) signed for 2.8 for 1 year and the cap hit is the same.

 

Updated to reflect the Williams signing.

Edited March 28 by GASabresIUFan

[SoonerBillsFan]

On 3/3/2024 at 3:40 PM, GASabresIUFan said:

Edit by BuffaloBill (moderator):

 

I thought I would create one thread and do the following:

Merge the current cap projection threads

Provide a daily update for 2024 in the first post from sportrac and over the cap as being primary sources

While not a reliable # yet, update daily, in the first post, the 2025 projections from the same sources

The remainder of the thread will contain “normal” chatter on the topic.

 

2024 projections 3/25/2024 - 6:30 pm

Sportrac: 12,502,921

 

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Original Thread Start by GASabresIUFan :

 

 

1.  McGovern's contract restructured.  Cap Savings $3.74 Million

 

2. Bills release RB Hines.  Cap Savings $4.66 million

3. Bates traded to Chicago for a 5th.  Cap Savings $1.44 Million.

 

4. Poyer Released - cap savings $5.47 million

 

5. Neal Released - cap savings  $2.88 million

 

6. Edwards re-signs -2 years $6 million.  Cap Hit 2.31 (spotrac)

 

7. Douglas contract restructure - cap savings $5.5 million

 

8. Morse released - cap savings $8.47 million

 

9. Harty released - cap savings $4.195

 

10. White released (June 1) -  cap savings $10 million

 

11. Matt Haack signed - cap cost 985K

 

12. Von Miller restructured - cap savings $8.855 million

 

13. Rapp re-signed - 3 years for 14.5 million - cap hit 2.842 million

 

14. Trubisky signed -2 years for $5.25 - cap hit 2.0 million

15. Morris re-signed - 1 year 985K - cap hit 985K

16. Knox pay cut & restructure - cap savings $6.4 million.

 

17. Dawkins extended - 3 years 60.5 million - cap savings $5.1 Million (updated 3/15)

 

18. Cam Lewis re-signs - 2 years 4 million - cap charge $1,481,500

 

19. Epenesa re-signs - 2 years $12 million +incentives - cap charge 3.94

 

20. Allen restructure - 16.7 million in cap savings  $16.7 million

 

21. DaQuan Jones re-signs - 2 years 16 million - cap charge $4.5 million

 

22. Nick Marrow LB signs - 1 year $ 1.5 million - cap $1.5 million.

 

23. Mack Hollins WR signs - 1 year 2.6 million - cap hit $2.48 million.

 

24. Ty Johnson re-signs - 1 year 1.292 - cap hit 1.152 million.

 

25. Curtis Samuel signs - 3 yrs 24 million+, cap hit $3.405

 

26. Taron Johnson extended - 3 yrs 31 million.  Cap saving $3.968

 

27. Casey Toohill DE/Edge - signed 1 year 1.125 - cap hit 1.015 million

 

28. Mike Edwards S - 1yr deal $2.8. milliom - cap hit $2.8 million

 

29. Will Clapp OG/C - 1 year deal - Terms TBD

 

30. Austin Johnson DL - 1 year deal - $3.5 million - cap hit TBD

 

Spotrac has us with approx 10,030,421 of cap space. These numbers don't reflect the signings of Clapp and  Austen Johnson.  The Toohill & TY Johnson contracts had little impact on the cap.

Thanks for doing this.

[Freddie's Dead]

Only $10 below the cap?  We're well and truly *****.

[BuffaloBillyG]

On 3/23/2024 at 12:49 PM, LABILLBACKER said:

I'm convinced we'll be giving Von, Dawson and Stef all June 1st cuts next year. 

I believe each team can only designate two players as June 1st cuts each year. I know that's what it was last year, not sure if there was a change to that.

 

In that event I would see Miller and Diggs as potential guys for it next year. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Now can we put an end to the doom and gloom regarding the cap.

 

And can we stop believing anything Beane says. He lies on purpose all the time. Every year he says they don't have money and don't expect any moves.  And here we are with a very good WR and multiple other solid role players. He jettisoned old and injured or in the case of Davis inconsistent players. They are still too old on the DL but I am convinced they will draft an Edge in round 1 or 2. 

Only move I really dislike is signing Epenesa.  Never liked the draft pick and he has done nothing to impress to warrant a second deal. 

I would have used Epenesa money on another safety. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

And can we stop believing anything Beane says. He lies on purpose all the time.

 

 

You've noticed this trend as well? 

 

I love how Beane bends the fans to his will thru manipulation of the truth.       

 

He took over the job with plenty of cap space and almost no future cap debt/commitments and declares with a straight face that the previous regime has left them in cap jail to explain getting rid of big name young players they just didn't want.  

 

He's been down for whatever he has to say from day 1 and the Pegula's needed that in a GM in 2017 more than anything.  

[DJB]

 

[hondo in seattle]

On 3/29/2024 at 8:50 AM, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Now can we put an end to the doom and gloom regarding the cap.

 

And can we stop believing anything Beane says. He lies on purpose all the time. Every year he says they don't have money and don't expect any moves.  And here we are with a very good WR and multiple other solid role players. He jettisoned old and injured or in the case of Davis inconsistent players. They are still too old on the DL but I am convinced they will draft an Edge in round 1 or 2. 

Only move I really dislike is signing Epenesa.  Never liked the draft pick and he has done nothing to impress to warrant a second deal. 

I would have used Epenesa money on another safety. 

 

It's not like we went on a big spending spree.  We lost some players Beane probably wanted to retain and signed mostly marginal starters and depth players.  The challenges of managing the cap are real.  

 

Of course, Beane doesn't publicly telegraph his offseason strategy.  But he never said we wouldn't make any moves.  He just acknowledged there were limitations to what we could do.  Signing a big-name WR, RB, DE, or CB wasn't in the budget.  

[No_Matter_What]

Sportrac has everybody in now. DeShawn Williams vet min with only $15k guaranteed (great), Clapp also close to vet min with $287k dead cap if cut and Austin Johnson $2.3M cap hit with $1.2M in void years.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

 

Sportrac says we have $8.5M cap space, Overthecap has us at $7.5M.

 

Which is interesting, since it seems like a free money now. After 1 June, we will have $10M more, which is just enough for rookies (~$2M), 52nd and 53rd player (less than $2M), PS players ($4M) and some in season injury moves ($2-3M).

 

So whatever we have now seems like money we can freely use. I wonder if Beane planned to sign somebody more expensive and it didn't work out.

 

It also shows why Beane didn't convert everything he could from Allen's contract this year - he didn't need to.

 

 

[billsfan89]

The Bills are in a good spot cap wise. Beane's management of the cap is among the best in the league. From 2019 to 2023 the Bills have been bottom 10 in dead cap dollars and in certain seasons bottom 5 in that span. Even this season when taking a hit on Tre, Floyd, Po, Mitch and some others they are only 14th in dead cap at about 23 million (not sure if that includes Tre's dead hit or not but even if it doesn't include that 5 million they would still only be number 10). This was a season that they had to "clean house" a bit and they still didn't take huge dead cap hits for the most part. 

 

Entering into the 2024 off-season the Bills only had 2 bad contracts on the roster. Knox and Von were really the only two terrible contracts on the roster. And Beane got those contracts into a much better place. Knox is palatable to get out of in 2026 and is a lower number this season. Von's deal is much better this year and the team can get out of it in 2026 easily. No other contracts other than Diggs are on the horizon of being a possible bad contract and even Diggs they are only tied to for 2025 after that they can get out of it. 

 

So it is not shocking they haven't padding out too much money in void years, Floyd was the only instance of them doing that at a significant degree. 

[BillsFanForever19]

8 hours ago, No_Matter_What said:

Sportrac has everybody in now. DeShawn Williams vet min with only $15k guaranteed (great), Clapp also close to vet min with $287k dead cap if cut and Austin Johnson $2.3M cap hit with $1.2M in void years.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

 

Sportrac says we have $8.5M cap space, Overthecap has us at $7.5M.

 

Which is interesting, since it seems like a free money now. After 1 June, we will have $10M more, which is just enough for rookies (~$2M), 52nd and 53rd player (less than $2M), PS players ($4M) and some in season injury moves ($2-3M).

 

So whatever we have now seems like money we can freely use. I wonder if Beane planned to sign somebody more expensive and it didn't work out.

 

It also shows why Beane didn't convert everything he could from Allen's contract this year - he didn't need to.

 

Not *completely* freely. The Practice Squad, 52nd and 53rd Roster Spot, and the In Season Spending Pot can come from Tre's 6/1 money. But Draft Picks are all signed before 6/1 these days with the new Rookie wage scale system, generally within days following the Draft.

 

So that money needs to come out of what we have right now, meaning we could probably spend around 5-6m now (depending on whether OTC or Spotrac is correct) if we wanted to. But not all of it.

Edited April 1 by BillsFanForever19

[Matt_In_NH]

They are also 21 million over at this point for 2025 which is not ideal but at least better than it was this year.

[GASabresIUFan]

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

They are also 21 million over at this point for 2025 which is not ideal but at least better than it was this year.

I view those projections with a grain of salt.  We have no idea what the cap figure will be.  Who would have projected this season at 255? If you add White's $10 to the 8.5 we are currently under the cap, there may even be a cap carryover for next season.  

 

When I project the Bill's opening day roster, I see 46 current signees making the team plus 5-6 draft picks.  Add in our dead cap (about 30 million with White) and the Bills are at about $240 million for next season.  That's leaves a $15 million carry over (give or take some) for 2025.  This is with draft picks but without a practice squad or other moves, but it illustrates how much flexibility the Bills still have for 2024 and into 2025.

 

The 46 player depth chart looks like this (Starter)

 

Specialists - Bass (PK), Haack (P) & Ferguson (LS) - I think Haack beats out Martin

 

Offense

QB - Allen & Trubisky

RB - Cook, Ty Johnson, DRAFT PICK, Gilliam

WR - Diggs, Shakir, Samuel, Hollins, Shorter & DRAFT PICK

TE - Kincaid, Knox & Morris

OL - Brown, Dawkins, D. Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Van Demark, Clapp, Anderson & DRAFT PICK

 

Defense

DL - Rousseau, Oliver, Jones, Miller, Epenesa, DS Williams, Jonathan, Toohill, A. Johnson & DRAFT PICK

LB- Milano, Benard, Do Williams, Spector, & Morrow

CB - Ta Johnson, Benford, Douglas, Elam, Lewis (S) & DRAFT PICK

S - M. Edwards, Rapp, Hamlin & DRAFT PICK

 

Edited April 1 by GASabresIUFan

[SoCal Deek]

I still say that Knox is a luxury we can’t afford. And I still can’t believe the Bills couldn’t find a suitor for his services.