NewEra Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 43 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Simmons just makes so much sense with our glaring hole at FS. He makes sense until you realize there’s a salary cap and we still have several other holes 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Poyer and Hyde were a fantastic tandem that worked really well together. Simmons is better than either of them and 3 years younger. Would be a massive acquisition for the secondary And how much do you pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Why? Simmons is arguably the best safety in the league. He's top 3 no question. He's also a few years younger than Poyer and Hyde. Simmons still has 2 very good years left. Sign him (after waiting) to a 2 year deal worth 16M. Then draft a promising FS to work with Simmons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I like Simmons a lot. I also like Blackmon who some have mentioned medicals on. But it would not bother me for them to wait until after the draft to make a move at the safety position. If you aren't signing Simmons, it probably makes sense to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Who knows what was being discussed as I was at a restaurant that had ESPN on around 530-600PM yesterday, but there was a graphic at the bottom of the screen saying Simmons signed by the Bills(could not hear the audio). Probably one of their outrageous talking head shows spewing BS. Edited March 22 by LabattBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Who knows what was being discussed as I was at a restaurant that had ESPN on around 530-600PM yesterday, but there was a graphic at the bottom of the screen saying Simmons signed by the Bills(could not hear the audio). Probably one of their outrageous talking head shows spewing BS. haha well that hasn’t happened or there would be a 50 page thread on here already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Who knows what was being discussed as I was at a restaurant that had ESPN on around 530-600PM yesterday, but there was a graphic at the bottom of the screen saying Simmons signed by the Bills(could not hear the audio). Probably one of their outrageous talking head shows spewing BS. I saw that too? I was super excited as I was working then couldn't find anything on it afterward. Wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, CDogg20 said: I saw that too? I was super excited as I was working then couldn't find anything on it afterward. Wtf? weird! Perhaps they meant to put Mike Edwards signed by Bills and accidentally put Justin Simmons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillenger4 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 hmmm. me either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDogg20 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 12 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: weird! Perhaps they meant to put Mike Edwards signed by Bills and accidentally put Justin Simmons I have no idea, they were showing Simmons highlights too. Just a way for Espn to mess with us I suppose? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, CDogg20 said: I have no idea, they were showing Simmons highlights too. Just a way for Espn to mess with us I suppose? 🤣 maybe it said “Should the Bills Sign Simmons?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Forgive me for this but is he SS or FS? He's all pro but I'm just not that familiar with the Broncos depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappysnackcakes Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 59 minutes ago, Yantha said: Forgive me for this but is he SS or FS? He's all pro but I'm just not that familiar with the Broncos depth chart. He’s a wong safety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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first_and_ten Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 On 3/7/2024 at 9:27 AM, Roundybout said: Unpopular opinion but I would rather find someone younger and cheaper. McD is very good at coaching defensive backs. That sounds like a good option, until Patrick Mahomes is slicing up our secondary in another playoff game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 6 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: That sounds like a good option, until Patrick Mahomes is slicing up our secondary in another playoff game. Are we operating under the impression that he didn’t slice us up with expensive all-pro caliber safeties? 20 minutes ago, DJB said: I think Simmons is a plus value in the safety room now, but not a long term answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Just now, FireChans said: Are we operating under the impression that he didn’t slice us up with expensive all-pro caliber safeties? They were not all-pro last year. They were clearly playing hurt and in decline. They were never coming back this year and McD knew it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: They were not all-pro last year. They were clearly playing hurt and in decline. They were never coming back this year and McD knew it. They were All-Pro in 2021. Poyer was first team AP and Hyde was second team AP. Mahomes had 447 total yards, 4 total TD's and a passer rating of 123.1 against them in the playoffs. The Chiefs scored 42. They were also very good in 2020. Mahomes had 382 yards, 3 total TD's and a passer rating of 127.6 against them in the playoffs. The Chiefs scored 38. Now, with all that being said, I will ask again. Are we operating under the impression that he didn't slice us up with expensive all-pro caliber safeties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 33 minutes ago, FireChans said: They were All-Pro in 2021. Poyer was first team AP and Hyde was second team AP. Mahomes had 447 total yards, 4 total TD's and a passer rating of 123.1 against them in the playoffs. The Chiefs scored 42. They were also very good in 2020. Mahomes had 382 yards, 3 total TD's and a passer rating of 127.6 against them in the playoffs. The Chiefs scored 38. Now, with all that being said, I will ask again. Are we operating under the impression that he didn't slice us up with expensive all-pro caliber safeties? All you did was prove they were not as good as they were touted. They are a bit slow and were never able to keep up with the faster receivers. Just because they were not up to the task doesn't mean the Bills shouldn't give Simmons a shot. And younger and cheaper improves us how? If we go by your standard, why not just go with young and cheap corners as well? Young and cheap only works when the drafting is very good, which the Chiefs have done. The Bills have done okay, but not great in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 It's so tempting to try and make this happen, as Safety (IMO) is really the only weak spot on this team. (Bills colored glasses and all) But they have Edwards & Bishop coming back at some point.. and my guess is if they were healthy and practicing, we wouldn't be having a conversation about spending big money on a Safety... even one of Simmons caliber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 14 minutes ago, first_and_ten said: All you did was prove they were not as good as they were touted. They are a bit slow and were never able to keep up with the faster receivers. Just because they were not up to the task doesn't mean the Bills shouldn't give Simmons a shot. And younger and cheaper improves us how? If we go by your standard, why not just go with young and cheap corners as well? Young and cheap only works when the drafting is very good, which the Chiefs have done. The Bills have done okay, but not great in that area. Huh? why would you expect a 31 year old Simmons in 2024 to be faster than a 29 and 30 year old Hyde and Poyer? I already said that I think Simmons would be a plus add in 2024. I don’t think he would be the difference maker between getting carved up by Mahomes or not, because he’s going to be 31, still a free agent, and we’ve already been carved up with 2 younger All Pros at his position multiple times. We also did get younger and cheaper at CB. We have two rookie contracts in our top 4 and the only “old” dude is Douglas who is the 28th highest paid CB this season. Ultimately, the benefit of having a defensive coach like McD is that he shouldn’t require a ton of high level investments to make his defense perform at a high level. Some key positions, sure. But the reason I loved him as a coach was finding guys like Poyer and Hyde and basically completely changing their careers. Drafting Tre White as like the 5th CB off the board and turning him into an All-Pro. Getting NFL level contributions out of dudes like Levi Wallace. If we need to invest big time dollars and big time draft picks into McD’s defense to make it work, then what is he even good at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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