FireChans Posted March 6 Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, sven233 said: I don't want to hear one time this season that Von isn't a team player. He didn't have to do this. This is a team first move all the way. Immediate cap savings and he is betting on himself which means he'll be going all out every snap to try & make plays to hit those incentives. He had to do this or his azz was on the street. This is exactly what happened with the tub of goo Star. Guess what? Cut a year later. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: How come Tre White is given so much slack for his injuries but Von gets no grace from the fans? Von hasn’t delivered and he has off the field issues. 1 Quote
sven233 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, FireChans said: He had to do this or his azz was on the street. This is exactly what happened with the tub of goo Star. Guess what? Cut a year later. He wasn't getting cut this year no matter what with $60 mill in dead cap..... Maybe next season, but not this season. He wasn't going anywhere. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 6 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Because his play declined massively. So they went to his ego and said hey you know how you could earn 17M this year. How about we move a lot that into incentives. And your your trouble you can earn another 3M more Ones play massively declined others didn’t Well, Diggs’ play declined also. Didn’t score a TD in the entire 2nd half of the season. He was either hurt, is aging, or he would use the excuse that we need other weapons to take the heat off him. Either way, it would be incentives for him to rework his deal. No? Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Von hasn’t delivered and he has off the field issues. what? He was very very good until the acl. Tre has played in 10 of our last 40 games or something? Come on 1 1 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: How come Tre White is given so much slack for his injuries but Von gets no grace from the fans? Probably because Von was going on and on all off season about how he would be ready to start week 1 and didn't get activated until week 10 and did nothing in weeks 10-19. That would be my guess. Edited March 6 by The Wiz Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Posted March 6 3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Von’s play decline was due to injury Hence his willingness to take a paycut. Quote
FireChans Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: How come Tre White is given so much slack for his injuries but Von gets no grace from the fans? What constitutes grace? I think Von is washed. I think he had a little left in the tank when he signed here, and he was probably the worst defender for the Bills post injury. I also thought Tre was done here after his second injury too. it’s nothing personal. Either you can still play or you can’t. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: what day does this years salary guarantee? I bet it’s not yet without looking. which means he’s avoiding finding out his open market price based on his film. He didn’t drop $9m out of generosity and good spirit Oooo I am sure he got a paycut or cut demand because it is clear Beane is pulling the bandaid off Edited March 6 by MAJBobby Quote
FireChans Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, mrags said: Well, Diggs’ play declined also. Didn’t score a TD in the entire 2nd half of the season. He was either hurt, is aging, or he would use the excuse that we need other weapons to take the heat off him. Either way, it would be incentives for him to rework his deal. No? It’s easier to cut Von than Diggs is the real answer. Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mrags said: Well, Diggs’ play declined also. Didn’t score a TD in the entire 2nd half of the season. He was either hurt, is aging, or he would use the excuse that we need other weapons to take the heat off him. Either way, it would be incentives for him to rework his deal. No? Not according to his year stats. There is ABSOLUTELY no way Diggs takes a paycut the player has to accept. Beane figured Von would because he likely anticipated Von thinking last year was an anomaly and will come back fine from Inj this year. Edited March 6 by MAJBobby Quote
mrags Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, FireChans said: It’s easier to cut Von than Diggs is the real answer. That too Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted March 6 Posted March 6 8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Wow Depending on how many years they’re amortizing the $7m, that could be a $14m cap savings in 2024. We could already be zero over the cap with another $10m coming from Tre on June 1. Quote
NoSaint Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, MAJBobby said: Oooo I am sure he got a paycut or cut demand yup - for him, he gets all the money he would on the open market and looks like a good guy for us, we begrudgingly pay him more than we’d like but get to manage the cap and have the hope of upside Quote
NeverOutNick Posted March 6 Posted March 6 31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If that is as reported it is a proper pay cut. What I mean by that is it isn't a restructure and it isn't swapping non-guaranteed money for a smaller amount of guaranteed money. Von's $17.5m salary this year was FULLY guaranteed. He is taking a near $9m pay cut (who knows what the incentives are). That is significant. Man, I just saw this. That’s a classy move from a guy that didn’t need to do anything. Hope he comes back strong to finish out his career here in Buffalo. We all give Brandon Bean some flack when it comes to some of his draft decisions, but man does he shine this time of year. I hope he knocks the draft out of the park because I don’t really think we need to go hard on free agency. Quote
FireChans Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Not according to his year stats. There is ABSOLUTELY no way Diggs takes a paycut Diggs won’t take a paycut because he doesn’t care if he gets cut and the Bills probably don’t wanna cut him. Quote
mrags Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, MAJBobby said: Not according to his year stats. There is ABSOLUTELY no way Diggs takes a paycut And nobody thought there was any way Von would take a pay cut either. Why would he. He didn’t have to. Could have told Beane to F-Off and pay him his money. Even if cut he gets a ton and then goes somewhere else Quote
NoSaint Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Just now, BuffaloRebound said: Depending on how many years they’re amortizing the $7m, that could be a $14m cap savings in 2024. We could already be zero over the cap with another $10m coming from Tre on June 1. signing bonus goes the remaining contract, up to 5 years. There’s no wiggling with that. Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 6 Posted March 6 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: yup - for him, he gets all the money he would on the open market and looks like a good guy for us, we begrudgingly pay him more than we’d like but get to manage the cap and have the hope of upside Looking his last Restructure up. 7M of his contract would have fully guaranteed on the 16th of this month. Making all 17M or so guaranteed March 16th Quote
mrags Posted March 6 Posted March 6 And no, I don’t think Diggs is taking a pay cut. But so far today we’ve seen a lot of moves that we didn’t think would happen so who knows what else we have in the works. Quote
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