Could the Bills be looking at Denver?

[Alphadawg7]

No.  No.  No.  

 

Sutton is gonna cost too much and Jeudy is a trash can.  People need to let go of this pre-draft hype on Jeudy, he did not pan out and he is not ever going to be the player people thought he was because he just isn't that good.  I mean has anyone watched him play?  Wanting Jeudy is like wanting more of the worst parts of Gabe Davis.  Lack of concentration, lazy routes, dropped passes, struggles to get open.  

 

Calling it now:  Bills will not trade for Sutton or Jeudy - because Beane isn't bad at his job.

 

This is one of the best drafts I can think of in terms of top end talent and depth at the WR position.  This is the year to be stacked with picks and looking for WR's, and Beane is gonna pounce there.  We likely add some value vet guys in FA too, but he isn't giving up picks in a WR rich draft for costly vets or retreads.  

Edited March 6 by Alphadawg7

[msw2112]

I like Sutton and think he's a very good player, but the numbers don't add up.  His age and salary are both too high for what the Bills need.  Jeudy is oft-injured and while very fast, not a very good NFL WR.  He was a great college player, but has not really panned out in the NFL.  I think the Bills have to go draft for WR.  One in the first 2 rounds and another in rounds 4-6.

[Allen2Moulds]

3 hours ago, ddaryl said:

the chances of the Bills trading for a WR are slim to none. And Slim just left town

Equal chances of the Bills pursuing FA WR's.

I don't agree. The fact that the Chiefs jumped us and took Trent McDuffie, and Elam has been a bust, is still very fresh in our minds.  Plus BB tends to get itchy, and I'm willing to bet he doesn't let it happen again, if this draft plays out similarly.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

That's not even a little true. Sutton can run more than just the go route, he gets good separation for a big dude and MOST importantly he's clutch. Dude is a difference maker. 

 

Weird when you look at

 

1 - catch percentages - Sutton trended up in 2023 but never cracked 60 before that

2 - TDs - Davis has more TDs in 4 years than Sutton has in 6.

3 - Drops - pretty comparable

4 - YAC - Gabes is better

 

Sutton's also 29 years old and has 2 yr's and 26.5 on his deal.  

[NeverOutNick]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Weird when you look at

 

1 - catch percentages - Sutton trended up in 2023 but never cracked 60 before that

2 - TDs - Davis has more TDs in 4 years than Sutton has in 6.

3 - Drops - pretty comparable

4 - YAC - Gabes is better

 

Sutton's also 29 years old and has 2 yr's and 26.5 on his deal.  

I don’t believe drops are comparable, I’ll have to look it up. QB play makes a huge difference in those numbers. When all you’re good at is the go route of course your RAC is going to be better. Anyone who actually watches Cortland Sutton knows he’s the far superior talent to Davis. It’s not even close

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Rather get a bargain FA WR who can come in and be WR4 and draft (even if a trade up is required) our guy in the first round.

 

My ideal combination right now is Noah Brown with Xavier Worthy. 

 

I like the idea of Brown, but not Worthy.  Hoping for B. Thomas Jr. or Leggett.  If we go slot guy, the guy from Arizona is likely available in the 2nd or 3rd round.  

[JohnBonhamRocks]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

I like the idea of Brown, but not Worthy.  Hoping for B. Thomas Jr. or Leggett.  If we go slot guy, the guy from Arizona is likely available in the 2nd or 3rd round.  

Why not Worthy? Do you see him as a slot WR?

[RyanC883]

44 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

No.  No.  No.  

 

Sutton is gonna cost too much and Jeudy is a trash can.  People need to let go of this pre-draft hype on Jeudy, he did not pan out and he is not ever going to be the player people thought he was because he just isn't that good.  I mean has anyone watched him play?  Wanting Jeudy is like wanting more of the worst parts of Gabe Davis.  Lack of concentration, lazy routes, dropped passes, struggles to get open.  

 

Calling it now:  Bills will not trade for Sutton or Jeudy - because Beane isn't bad at his job.

 

This is one of the best drafts I can think of in terms of top end talent and depth at the WR position.  This is the year to be stacked with picks and looking for WR's, and Beane is gonna pounce there.  We likely add some value vet guys in FA too, but he isn't giving up picks in a WR rich draft for costly vets or retreads.  

 

yeah, besides the issue with Jeudy, trading for him would not help much given: (1) the WRs available at low cost in the draft; (2) other WRs available in FA that will not cost picks.  

[BarleyNY]

4 hours ago, HomeTeam said:

But why would they move on from them? 

I think Denver might want to move on from older vets like Sutton if they’re doing a big roster reset. Just guys that won’t be there when the team is ready to compete again. Open up cap space and get some picks to reset the roster and to help trade up for their next QB. 

Edited March 6 by BarleyNY

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

Why not Worthy? Do you see him as a slot WR?

 

I think a big slot given his speed and slight build.  I'm not sure where he goes in the lineup, actually.  Wouldn't mind him in the 2nd round, but at 28 would hope for a X type #1 WR.  Wouldn't mind actually getting Thomas, JR. then instantly trading back into the 2nd to grab Worthy.  He seems like a great "toy/gadet" type WR.  

[JohnBonhamRocks]

5 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

 

I think a big slot given his speed and slight build.  I'm not sure where he goes in the lineup, actually.  Wouldn't mind him in the 2nd round, but at 28 would hope for a X type #1 WR.  Wouldn't mind actually getting Thomas, JR. then instantly trading back into the 2nd to grab Worthy.  He seems like a great "toy/gadet" type WR.  

I would be surprised if both do not go in the first round

[RyanC883]

6 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

I would be surprised if both do not go in the first round

 

here is what happens: we take Worthy, he's ok, gets injured all the time.  KC takes Worthy: he is the next Tyrekee Hill or something.  

[MiracleAtRich1393]

2 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

He's 29 with two years left on his contract with a $17+ million cap hit this year. You hate to extend him and have another 30+year old receiver.  We have to see how the heck we're going to get under the cap as it is. I say draft a WR and follow the KC path on defense.

A $17mil cap hit for the *Broncos* if they keep him. Less for the acquiring team

[Warriorspikes51]

As I said…I’d look at Sutton. He could be elite with Josh

[Green Lightning]

2 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

A $17mil cap hit for the *Broncos* if they keep him. Less for the acquiring team

Well, as I write this we are still $17 mil over cap after today's red wedding, and we still have to restock two safties, 3 DTs and a at least another DE. Not seeing an additions on the level of Sutton coming here. 

[Warriorspikes51]

7 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

Well, as I write this we are still $17 mil over cap after today's red wedding, and we still have to restock two safties, 3 DTs and a at least another DE. Not seeing an additions on the level of Sutton coming here. 

the new team can make his cap hit less than 4 million

[CheshireCT]

Hasn't anyone listened to Beane? We can't even shop at K-Mart, we're shopping at Walmart.

[BillsFanForever19]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

the new team can make his cap hit less than 4 million

 

In Year 1. And what will that do in future years? What about the 17.8 next season?

 

You shouldn't want a big move like Sutton. With everything we had to do before today and the new holes we created today - a move for a guy like Sutton would remove us from Round 1 WR consideration.

 

We wouldn't give up Draft picks for Sutton, take on his contract, and then Draft a guy in Round 1 who's ceiling in Year 1 would be WR4 off the bench.

Edited March 6 by BillsFanForever19

[Cash]

I don’t think the Bills would be interested in Jeudy - doesn’t have a mindset compatible with their culture. Sutton maybe though. 

[Warriorspikes51]

48 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

In Year 1. And what will that do in future years? What about the 17.8 next season?

 

You shouldn't want a big move like Sutton. With everything we had to do before today and the new holes we created today - a move for a guy like Sutton would remove us from Round 1 WR consideration.

 

We wouldn't give up Draft picks for Sutton, take on his contract, and then Draft a guy in Round 1 who's ceiling in Year 1 would be WR4 off the bench.

but it shouldnt