Ryan Bates traded

[DrMaxPower]

32 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If Joe Buscaglia’s post is correct, it seems like we just wanted the pick… because that’s not exactly a cap space maneuver for a guy we all thought they viewed highly as a versatile depth piece. 

I think it was also about development/stagnation. Alec Anderson has some talent. He needs a bigger role but was blocked on the roster.

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, Mango said:

$930k in space saved

 

Splitting hairs but actually $1.433M in space saved because we're doing it before March 15. Also we avoid having to take on a $2.567M dead cap hit in 2025 when we inevitably would have released him next offseason.

 

Still I don't think this has anything to do with cap space. Ryan Poles just weirdly has a hard on for Ryan Bates so we are happily accepting his overpay.

[Aussie Joe]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This seems like pretty good value for what he has been. Could he end up being a very good starter yes…

 

but for now a 5th is solid. 

A 5th is what they got for Cody Ford … so if this is good value then that was grand larceny..

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

34 minutes ago, SCBills said:

If Joe Buscaglia’s post is correct, it seems like we just wanted the pick… because that’s not exactly a cap space maneuver for a guy we all thought they viewed highly as a versatile depth piece. 

I would bet they weren’t even shopping him. Bears probably just called to see if he’s available. Beane gave a price and that’s was that.

[HurlyBurly51]

7 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Having the pick certainly doesn’t hurt. Getting it is better than releasing g Bates for nothing. But it really has very little value in this particular draft. 

We have no idea who will be selected at #143 and how they will turn out in the NFL.  So we can’t say this has very little value.  Plenty of examples of guys selected in the 5th who have turned out to be quite valuable.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, DrMaxPower said:

I think it was also about development/stagnation. Alec Anderson has some talent. He needs a bigger role but was blocked on the roster.

I believe trading him now also saves $5.4M off NEXT years cap. That's something they have to keep in mind when doing  restructuring or extensions this year. Right now it looks like the Bills only have about $30M of 2025 cap to play with as well.

[Big Blitz]

15 minutes ago, Success said:

So....who do we have now for depth at center?

 

 

Jason Kelce on speed dial in case of emergency.  

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I believe trading him now also saves $5.4M off NEXT years cap. That's something they have to keep in mind when doing  restructuring or extensions this year. Right now it looks like the Bills only have about $30M of 2025 cap to play with as well.

Beane out here trading future cap space so he can throw around some void years.   

[BarleyNY]

2 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said:

We have no idea who will be selected at #143 and how they will turn out in the NFL.  So we can’t say this has very little value.  Plenty of examples of guys selected in the 5th who have turned out to be quite valuable.

 

Sure. Anything can happen. But that is ignoring the actual odds of success. This is not a typical draft. The players staying in college for NIL money has gutted this class. Pick 143 in 2024 is not the same as pick 143 in 2020 or 2028. That’s my point. 

[John from Riverside]

I know this is after the fact that I have been thinking about this for a while, if they might pull the trigger here

 

I wonder if they do a full court press on keeping Edwards

 

By the way, I’m a  Bates fan sorry to see him go I wish him the best of luck

[Big Blitz]

Just now, BarleyNY said:

 

Sure. Anything can happen. But that is ignoring the actual odds of success. This is not a typical draft. The players staying in college for NIL money has gutted this class. Pick 143 in 2024 is not the same as pick 143 in 2020 or 2028. That’s my point. 

 

If this is the case I’m trading all the late round picks to move up in rounds 4-5.  
 

I’ll leave the draft making 6-8 picks but all 5th round or higher.  Would rather target guys I really want then hope I hit on the 27th ranked WR in round 6.    
 

Or get picks for 2025.  

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, IBTG81 said:

Bated traded to Chicago for their 5th round pick. 

Great move,  I approve

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

Feels like Beane kinda bungled this going back to 2022. Should've given a higher rd tender to Bates, but didn't. Then when the Bears offer sheeted him we matched it. We paid a lot for 2 seasons from a backup O-line and now we're eating 4mm deadcap for a depth guy. At least we got a 5th rd pick I guess. 

[Warriorspikes51]

Perhaps Edwards has a verbal agreement to re-sign?

[Niagara Dude]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Well that sucks, I wonder if he wanted out. He’s a starting caliber player. 
 

At least they didn’t trade Rick Bates. 

It was a great move,  you don't pay that kind of money for backups.

[BillsFanForever19]

Current Draft Capital, including forecasted Comp pick for Edmunds, and their Modern Trade Chart Value:

 

Round 1 - 28 (209)
Round 2 - 60 (88)
Round 3 - 99 (36)
Round 4 - 129 (18)
Round 5 - 143 (14)
Round 5 - 159 (10)
Round 5 - 162 (10)
Round 6 - 192 (6)
Round 6 - 198 (5)
Round 6 - 206 (4)
Round 7 - 246 (1)

 

Lots of capital for movement around, especially on Day 3. No chance we use all of these picks.

[Blank Stare]

I like Bates, so I don’t love it, but I get it. Not going to get all worked up over a backup lineman. Take the pick and move on. 

[BuffaloRebound]

10 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Beane out here trading future cap space so he can throw around some void years.   

Agreed.  I assume we’ll hear about Morse’s $8.5m this year being restructured into the future.  

[Doc Brown]

Wish they threw in DJ Moore with the deal but at least we got something.

[GASabresIUFan]

1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Current Draft Capital, including forecasted Comp pick for Edmunds, and their Modern Trade Chart Value:

 

Round 1 - 28 (209)
Round 2 - 60 (88)
Round 3 - 99 (36)
Round 4 - 129 (18)
Round 5 - 143 (14) -Chicago
Round 5 - 159 (10)
Round 5 - 162 (10)
Round 6 - 192 (6)
Round 6 - 198 (5)
Round 6 - 206 (4)
Round 7 - 246 (1)

 

Lots of capital for movement around, especially on Day 3. No chance we use all of these picks.

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