Matt_In_NH Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 hour ago, mrags said: hes literally never finished an entire season in his career. As in he always has a season ending injury or as in maybe he missed 1-3 games at some point? Which btw with this regime should not be shocking given their conservative handling of soft tissue type injuries. Sure he has not been the most available guy but he is worth it. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Can we trade this thread instead? lol. No thanks, this defense needs Milano. 1 Quote
Bills!Win! Posted March 4 Posted March 4 If I remember correctly in 2021 Milano actually took less money to come back here rather than hitting free agency. We owe him! 1 Quote
Sweats Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Saint Doug said: The difference between us beating the Chiefs last season vs what actually happened could solely be explained by the absence of Milano. He plays in that game and we win. Not necessarily.......if he plays in that game, there's a good chance we win, however, teams have figured out that if they can isolate and neutralize him, they can take him right out of the game altogether. There's been a few head scratching games where it looked like he didn't even show up, nor make any kind of impact on the outcome. Are you telling me KC wouldn't have game planned for him?........like, come on, man. Quote
JoPoy88 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 56 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It really depends on the healing post surgery. If there are complications with surgery or something like that then it can take a long time to recover. I don’t think he’s had any complications. Agree but I don’t think recovery complications would necessarily be publicized. Quote
SCBills Posted March 4 Posted March 4 15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Can we trade this thread instead? lol. No thanks, this defense needs Milano. Who don't they need? It seems anytime we have a discussion about anyone on the defense, people chime in saying they are necessary for the unit to function. For the past few years Hyde & Poyer were necessary. Now it's Milano and Johnson. People are afraid to cut or trade Douglas. Not going at you specifically, it just seems like fans/podcast guys and maybe even the FO depends far too much on aging vets on larger salaries. To stay competitive, we're going to need more Edmunds to Bernard stories and less restructures/extensions. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 4 Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: Agree but I don’t think recovery complications would necessarily be publicized. I think we would’ve heard something. He looked to be in pretty good spirits at the end of the season. Seems to be rehabbing in Buffalo. I think he’s well past any possible complications. Quote
mrags Posted March 4 Posted March 4 26 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: As in he always has a season ending injury or as in maybe he missed 1-3 games at some point? Which btw with this regime should not be shocking given their conservative handling of soft tissue type injuries. Sure he has not been the most available guy but he is worth it. Not saying he isn’t but it sure hurts when he’s out for some of the most important games of the year. Pretty sure he’s missed multiple playoff games against very tough opponents. Sometimes the best ability is availability. And he’s not been good in that department. and yes, for us he’s worth it, but for another team to trade for him that’s another story Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: Who don't they need? It seems anytime we have a discussion about anyone on the defense, people chime in saying they are necessary for the unit to function. For the past few years Hyde & Poyer were necessary. Now it's Milano and Johnson. People are afraid to cut or trade Douglas. Not going at you specifically, it just seems like fans/podcast guys and maybe even the FO depends far too much on aging vets on larger salaries. To stay competitive, we're going to need more Edmunds to Bernard stories and less restructures/extensions. I hear ya...but lets look at what you are saying: Hyde & Poyer: Factually, they were very important to this defense and the style we played for many years. So I don't know it was incorrect to say we needed them, especially with nothing resembling starting material behind them to elevate if we moved one. So can't fault anyone who might have said we need them in years past. This year of course is different as they are now at the tail end of their careers and not quite as impactful and good during their prime runs here. Milano being out might have been the biggest reason we lost to KC. Because not only was Milano out, so was Bernard. Going into the game I specifically stated the thing I am afraid of the most is that KC is going to abuse and attack the massive hole at LB with both Milano and Bernard out. And that is exactly what they did in a game we lost by 3. Had we not been missing our LB's, that game very much might have looked different. Milano is maybe the closest thing left on our defense right now to an All Pro, and I would go as far as say he is our best defensive player this next year (assuming he is fully back from his injury). Can't see any reason to trade him and with him and Bernard, suddenly LB is our strength instead of our absolute weakest spot next time we face KC. But I don't disagree with you on your overall point, in fact, I think guys like Poyer and Tre are questionable to be here for that very reason. I just don't think Milano fits the description of someone we need to trade this year, especially with the heavy transition we are likely to see elsewhere on the defense. With Hyde gone, and question marks around Tre, Poyer, and even Douglas...There is a chance we can be looking at 3 new starters in our secondary, possibly 4. So as far as Douglas goes, I am in the camp to keep him. He was our best cornerback the moment he stepped on the field, and I would rather cut both Poyer and Tre to keep Douglas personally even though Tre and Poyer are two of my faves. Douglas just has to more to offer this defense right now and he was the best secondary player on the team once he got here. Within our own division we face the Miami air attack, Jets could be dangerous air attack if Rodgers is even 75% the player he was, and if NE has a ton of cap room to get back in the mix still. Then you still have KC and CIncy to contend with, plus who knows what impact Harbaugh has on Charges and Herbert this year. Point is, in the AFC where the gauntlet of top QB's are, completely depleting your entire secondary on a defense that depends a lot on its secondary is going to really put even more pressure on Allen and this offense. So, that is why I would want to keep Douglas even if it means getting rid of two team and fan favorites like Poyer and Tre to make the cap room necessary to justify keeping Douglas. But also, don't forget the cap is higher now, and with that bonus, I see even less reason to cut or trade Douglas. 1 2 Quote
without a drought Posted March 4 Posted March 4 I'm all about creating holes and dead cap. So, I'm starting like this. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) 48 minutes ago, mrags said: Not saying he isn’t but it sure hurts when he’s out for some of the most important games of the year. Pretty sure he’s missed multiple playoff games against very tough opponents. Sometimes the best ability is availability. And he’s not been good in that department. and yes, for us he’s worth it, but for another team to trade for him that’s another story The two seasons leading up to last year he missed one game each.....then the broken leg. I use the availability argument too a lot. Earlier in his career there was a lot of soft tissue injuries that I remember was being addressed with training/nutrition. Injuries are part luck, part the person dealing with them, part habits and part genetics. Edited March 4 by Matt_In_NH Quote
mrags Posted March 4 Posted March 4 52 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The two seasons leading up to last year he missed one game each.....then the broken leg. I use the availability argument too a lot. Earlier in his career there was a lot of soft tissue injuries that I remember was being addressed with training/nutrition. Injuries are part luck, part the person dealing with them, part habits and part genetics. He missed 2 last year. 1 the year before that. And 6 the year before that. He’s literally never completed a full season 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 4 Posted March 4 49 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: The two seasons leading up to last year he missed one game each.....then the broken leg. I use the availability argument too a lot. Earlier in his career there was a lot of soft tissue injuries that I remember was being addressed with training/nutrition. Injuries are part luck, part the person dealing with them, part habits and part genetics. That terrible turf in london. I thought we lost taron johnson in that game to a knee injury too. Quote
billsbackto81 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 He does get nicked up often and does have a tendency to whiff on tackles in space, BUT... This would be the equivalent of KC trading Chris Jones (if he was under contract). That's how important All Pro Milano is. If healthy, he and Bernard would have been absolutely filthy. He's the best cover LB in the league and solid at the LOS. He's on a team friendly contract. Extremely underpaid coming in 17th highest LB at a little over 14m. No, I wouldn't crumble my cookie. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted March 4 Posted March 4 19 minutes ago, mrags said: He missed 2 last year. 1 the year before that. And 6 the year before that. He’s literally never completed a full season According to PFF he started 15 games in 2022, the Bills played 16 games, so how did he miss two? Quote
mrags Posted March 4 Posted March 4 9 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: According to PFF he started 15 games in 2022, the Bills played 16 games, so how did he miss two? 17 game schedule? Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, mrags said: 17 game schedule? Bengals game/Damar Hamlin? THe Bills played 16. Edited March 4 by Matt_In_NH Quote
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