BananaB Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) 7 hours ago, Blackbeard said: Mess? You do recognize we’ve consistently finished the last bunch of years winning the AFCE and making sb runs, correct? such a mess we’re in. Lmao. Are we supposed to do all of the above and still have loads of cap space? Simplest way to get around it is to get more out of your younger players. Fact is they draft guys then go sign guys to play their position. Part of the blame for this is probably McD though. What really is it bad drafting or poor development and lack of trust in young players from the HC. Edited March 2 by BananaB 3 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 2 Posted March 2 3 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: I agree with this. It was moreso a complaint about how some of the prior Bills GMs would preach the "build through the draft and sign our own" which I agree with but you would have thought when the playoff drought reached 10 years they would have said "ok, let's make some splashes while building through the draft" they just always seemed to want to cheap out and get average players to mix with bad draft picks and it was a never ending cycle until Beane, thankfully Yeah I don’t see Beane and/or McDermott being guilty of this. In fact I think they’ve made too many splashes. Specifically Von. But more than anything they’ve made moves in the wrong direction imo. I will always come back to Allen is not just the best QB this franchise has ever had, but ever will. And it’s a crime to not replenish his weapons always 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted March 2 Posted March 2 (edited) On 3/1/2024 at 2:13 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: The legal tampering period starts the 11th and FA the 13th so he has a little time. And I know he said he plans on being under the cap by the end of next week. But I have Football ADHD dang it! Make some moves so we know what's what!! 🤣 Not sure what he plans on doing but I have full confidence he has this under control Edited March 2 by Niagara Dude spelling 2 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Beane already has it all planned out, from restructures, free agency, the draft, training camp and has the final roster in ink, because he is a sorcerer. 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted March 4 Posted March 4 On 3/1/2024 at 1:13 PM, SoonerBillsFan said: The legal tampering period starts the 11th and FA the 13th so he has a little time. And I know he said he plans on being under the cap by the end of next week. But I have Football ADHD dang it! Make some moves so we know what's what!! 🤣 to be fair, waiting as long as possible is advantageous the last thing you want is to restructure a guy and something catastrophic happens (whether workout or jet ski or legal) 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Hopefully he's still trying to convince Pegula to can McDermott and hire Belichick.... Sorry couldn't resist....I kid I kid... 1 Quote
Steve Billieve Posted March 4 Posted March 4 7 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Hopefully he's still trying to convince Pegula to can McDermott and hire Belichick.... Sorry couldn't resist....I kid I kid... believe it or not, jail. Quote
Pete Posted March 4 Posted March 4 (edited) On 3/2/2024 at 3:57 AM, machine gun kelly said: We have the worst cap situation in the NFL. The adjective worst describes the thing that is the least good, like this awful pizza, the worst we've ever had in our lives. Don't confuse worst with worse, which compares only two things. Your cold might be worse than your brother's but dad's is the worst of all. Hey Mr Hyperbole, could we please stick to facts? Please spare us the gloom and doom. The Bills future is bright! Edited March 4 by Pete Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 On 3/2/2024 at 1:32 PM, BananaB said: Simplest way to get around it is to get more out of your younger players. Fact is they draft guys then go sign guys to play their position. Part of the blame for this is probably McD though. What really is it bad drafting or poor development and lack of trust in young players from the HC. McDermott has to change his philosophy on this wanting vets at all positions. KC starts rookies, the Lions had 4 start last year I think. Gotta draft better and coach better. Time for the youth to start. 1 Quote
Back2Buff Posted March 4 Posted March 4 On 3/1/2024 at 5:22 PM, BillsFanForever19 said: As @GunnerBill pointed out, in listening to the end of Beane's presser at the Combine - the feeling I got was that Douglas is more likely to be released or traded than extended. They are not getting rid of their number 1 CB. White may not play all of next year. They are treating him as not being here next year. If Douglas doesn't want to do a contract extension, they will add a few void years just lowering the cap this year. Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted March 4 Posted March 4 52 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: McDermott has to change his philosophy on this wanting vets at all positions. KC starts rookies, the Lions had 4 start last year I think. Gotta draft better and coach better. Time for the youth to start. There has to be a blend at each position group 1. You don't know what you have in a rookie. A vet's book on capabilities, ceiling and floor is pretty much written 2. Vet brings knowledge and experience to each group While Beane did go heavy on vets earlier, he needs to blend more youth and bring down the average age of each group. 1 Quote
Back2Buff Posted March 4 Posted March 4 On 3/1/2024 at 4:39 PM, JohnNord said: They will restructure Allen before any of them They may sign him to an extension too. Looking to give him more money and add some years to lower his cap even more right now. Right now he is signed through 32, would it really be unreasonable to think he plays till 35? 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 4 Author Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Fan in Chicago said: There has to be a blend at each position group 1. You don't know what you have in a rookie. A vet's book on capabilities, ceiling and floor is pretty much written 2. Vet brings knowledge and experience to each group While Beane did go heavy on vets earlier, he needs to blend more youth and bring down the average age of each group. Agreed, I csn go with that. But we have to quit drafting JAG's on the DL. Get a couple studs and quit worrying about rotation as much Just now, Back2Buff said: They may sign him to an extension too. Looking to give him more money and add some years to lower his cap even more right now. Right now he is signed through 32, would it really be unreasonable to think he plays till 35? Agreed add 3 years now before the price sky rockets further Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 4 Posted March 4 On 3/1/2024 at 2:34 PM, Matt_In_NH said: I am not looking forward to it because I think he will do some things to kick the can down the road further. I want a cap reset of sorts. No way. Don’t you know the SB window is only 2 more years tops ? (Sarcasm) 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 4 Posted March 4 On 3/2/2024 at 11:32 AM, BananaB said: Simplest way to get around it is to get more out of your younger players. Fact is they draft guys then go sign guys to play their position. Part of the blame for this is probably McD though. What really is it bad drafting or poor development and lack of trust in young players from the HC. I have no problem double dipping between free agency and the draft on positions. Some of these kids coming out of college won’t be ready like Bernard. What I don’t want to see is McDermott not playing young guys who are obviously better players but going with veterans just cause Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted March 4 Posted March 4 The thing with this is it is important to be methodical and only pull the triggers when they need to be pulled. I dont expect them to do a bunch of stuff to get to 35M under the cap and then use it in FA/draft/replacement guys/practice squad. Rather, I expect a minimum required moves to get cap compliant with some space heading into FA and then additional moves as guys are signed to stay compliant. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 Beane I want 40 million in space for a UFA shopping spree / trade thanks 😂 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 4 Posted March 4 On 3/2/2024 at 7:32 AM, Blackbeard said: Mess? You do recognize we’ve consistently finished the last bunch of years winning the AFCE and making sb runs, correct? such a mess we’re in. Lmao. Are we supposed to do all of the above and still have loads of cap space? Can you define SB run for us? Even the biggest homers on here would hardly claim getting bounced out of the division round in the playoffs three years in a row(twice at home) as SB runs. On 3/2/2024 at 9:56 AM, JGMcD2 said: Still waiting for someone to prove this is true? They have 2+ starters coming out of every draft and various role players lol They couldn't be where they are if they were drafting poorly - not finding superstars in the 2nd half of RD1 isn't poor drafting either. 2017 White/Dawkins/Milano 2018 Allen/Johnson + Edmunds, Phillips, Neal 2019 Oliver/Knox + Singletary 2020 Davis/Bass/Jackson + Epenesa 2021 Rousseau/Brown 2022 Cook/Bernard/Shakir/Benford + Spector 2023 Kincaid/Torrence Obligatory Beane didn't draft in 2017 comment...sorry Quote
JGMcD2 Posted March 4 Posted March 4 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Can you define SB run for us? Even the biggest homers on here would hardly claim getting bounced out of the division round in the playoffs three years in a row(twice at home) as SB runs. Obligatory Beane didn't draft in 2017 comment...sorry I have a hard time believing that. I promise I realize exactly what I’m typing. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 4 Posted March 4 1 hour ago, JGMcD2 said: I have a hard time believing that. I promise I realize exactly what I’m typing. So you are saying while Beane was under contract with the Panthers he was conspiring with McDermott on who to draft in 2017? And then following along this line of thinking that would make Beane also complicit in passing on drafting Mahomes. What you are suggesting would be the biggest scandal in NFL history. Far worse that spygate or deflategate. Quote
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