Matt_In_NH Posted February 28 Posted February 28 5 hours ago, mannc said: They have a plan… You mean other than pay everyone and have 6 number one receivers? Quote
John from Riverside Posted February 28 Posted February 28 4 hours ago, SCBills said: I agree, but that’s why I’d draft a couple corners in the mid-rounds. Benford & Elam both going into Year 3 and then draft 2-3 guys to compete with Elam Rounds 3–6. I don’t expect them to do that at all, but if I ask myself what would KC do?… they’d probably use 10M + Tre’s money somewhere else besides a CB coming off two major injuries and another turning 30 by the time the season starts. Who is to say that they will not do that they’ve been pretty good about drafting at least one cornerback every year Quote
ProcessTruster Posted February 28 Posted February 28 13 hours ago, ngbills said: Plus $14M to Dawson Knox which is essentially Kelce money and 5 times what they pay Gray as TE#2. Between Miller, Tre and Knox that is $55M in cap. the injuries to Von and Tre are not on the team. just unfortunate events. If Chris Jones and Kelce went down for the year, does that mean Reid should be fired for going 8-8? Quote
davefan66 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Rasul Douglas will be 30 years old when the season starts. He’s good. Is that where we want to spend 10M? Is that the type of player we should extend in the Secondary? Tre White is coming off two major injuries. We will have no way of knowing what he is until late in camp.. at best. He took a while to come back off the last injury. Now it’s two. Cutting both of them and going young in the Secondary makes us players for a Hollywood Brown or a multiple pieces on the DL (for example). It’s a risk, but Benford is very good. Elam has shown flashes but is not someone we should count on. So we draft 2-3 corners in Rounds 3-6 and tell Elam it’s his job this summer to fight off the draft picks for CB2. I get what you are saying. Tre could give us a discount. Doubt it. Douglas is 7 million this season, no corner his ability would come that cheap. He played exceptionally well at the end if the season. Yes. Benford played very well but Douglas is better. Not counting Tre out until we see how he performs. As for Elam? I wouldn’t count him as more than CB4 if he improves. He has skills staying with his man for sure. He is a liability tracking the ball and the ability to play the man and the ball simultaneously. Yeah, he had a nice end zone int. That was a flash, not consistent enough. I’d make sure the defensive backfield is well stocked. If they fo their job It makes the defensive line better. Even if we were loaded with studs on the d-line, low talent, or unproven defensive backs can kill you. And don’t forget. Whatever money we have, we have to address our safeties. Edited February 28 by davefan66 Quote
Sweats Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Looks like KC has a plan and aren't afraid to roll with it every season. I mean, they look like a franchise who just seems to "get it"......i kind of wish our FO actually knew what the hell they were doing, instead of looking like they are just making stuff up as they go. 1 Quote
Doc Posted February 28 Posted February 28 I love how they plan to be healthy in the playoffs... 1 1 Quote
SaulGoodman Posted February 28 Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, Doc said: I love how they plan to be healthy in the playoffs... Except for several starters being out this postseason, several injuries to key players last postseason, and their entire OL in 2020. But there is some planning involved in avoiding a rash of injuries. There’s a reason that teams like the Titans and Ravens seem to always have numerous injuries and KC doesn’t. Quote
Don Otreply Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 13 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Belichick playing solitaire So that’s what it’s called nowadays…, Edited February 28 by Don Otreply Quote
BufBills83 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 12 hours ago, Success said: KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board. I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top. True, I mean this board is unreadable sometimes. It's not like KC hasn't made mistakes (Toney trade, drafting CEH round 1, drafting Sky Moore, etc) 1 Quote
26TrapDraw Posted February 28 Posted February 28 14 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Veach and Reid are playing chess. Beane and McD are playing checkers More Like Beane and McD are playing with themselves. 1 Quote
mjt328 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 11 hours ago, 90sBills said: I mean it’s not unwarranted right? They’ve been the most successful team the last 5-6 years. Winning 3 Championships while not being cap strapped. Drafting and developing players to turnover roster after roster without skipping a beat. That’s admirable. They’ve been better than everyone else at doing that. With a copy cat league like the NFL other teams will try to emulate as they should. Praising their success is warranted. Pretending that every move they make is genius... that's just going too far. It reminds me of watching the NFL Draft and how every analyst would LOSE THEIR MINDS when Bill Belichick made a trade. "OH MY GOSH! HE MOVED DOWN THREE PICKS. HE'S PLAYING CHESS WHILE THE REST OF THE LEAGUE PLAYS CHECKERS." Well, not exactly. Now we see that without Tom Brady, the guy is actually a blow average GM and not really great at building a roster. I mean, Sneed is a good player. He's a free agent. The Chiefs have some options, and are considering tagging him and trading him. Maybe a team will give them a 1st Round Pick. Maybe not. Who really knows? And just because they were able to continue success without Tyreek Hill, doesn't mean they will have no issues getting rid of their top corner. As I've said before. It's amazing how a few close plays/games can totally change the narrative. The Chiefs barely scraped by the Bills, Ravens and 49ers. They easily could have lost any of those three games, if only a play or two were flipped. And if that happened, they would be getting tons of criticism for failing to surround Patrick Mahomes with enough receiving weapons, and protecting him with mediocre tackles. Instead the story is that Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Kyle Shanahan are postseason chokers, and the Chiefs are going to match the Patriots dynasty. 3 Quote
nucci Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) No one is playing chess or checkers. I should also probably use the word literally in there since that's a thing now Edited February 28 by nucci Quote
Buckets Posted February 28 Posted February 28 14 hours ago, Success said: KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board. I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top. I agree, one more completion in the playoffs and this would be moot. 1 Quote
Augie Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: I love how they plan to be healthy in the playoffs... It’s kind of embarrassing that we didn’t think of that first. Time to sharpen the pitchfork and load up on torch fuel. . Edited February 28 by Augie Quote
90sBills Posted February 28 Posted February 28 2 hours ago, mjt328 said: Praising their success is warranted. Pretending that every move they make is genius... that's just going too far. It reminds me of watching the NFL Draft and how every analyst would LOSE THEIR MINDS when Bill Belichick made a trade. "OH MY GOSH! HE MOVED DOWN THREE PICKS. HE'S PLAYING CHESS WHILE THE REST OF THE LEAGUE PLAYS CHECKERS." Well, not exactly. Now we see that without Tom Brady, the guy is actually a blow average GM and not really great at building a roster. I mean, Sneed is a good player. He's a free agent. The Chiefs have some options, and are considering tagging him and trading him. Maybe a team will give them a 1st Round Pick. Maybe not. Who really knows? And just because they were able to continue success without Tyreek Hill, doesn't mean they will have no issues getting rid of their top corner. As I've said before. It's amazing how a few close plays/games can totally change the narrative. The Chiefs barely scraped by the Bills, Ravens and 49ers. They easily could have lost any of those three games, if only a play or two were flipped. And if that happened, they would be getting tons of criticism for failing to surround Patrick Mahomes with enough receiving weapons, and protecting him with mediocre tackles. Instead the story is that Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Kyle Shanahan are postseason chokers, and the Chiefs are going to match the Patriots dynasty. Agreed. Not every KC move needs to be lauded as genius. What’s more important to me is their overall philosophy of doing business when you have the guy at QB. It affords them the ability to move on from great players, still in their prime, to accumulate pieces for the team. They drafted Snead in the lower rounds and developed him. Now they’re reaping that reward. By tagging him they will get a first if someone else wants him. It also allows the market to set his price and have the right to match. It’s not genius but it’s definitely a great move. NFL teams are closely matched because of the cap. It’s a design purpose. So when you say a team ‘scraped’ by another team that means they beat them. There aren’t style points in the NFL. Great teams make those extra 1 or 2 plays to get the win. In KC’s case this year they did that 3 times in a row against very good teams in the highest of pressured situations. That’s not easy to do. Bills, Balt, SF couldn’t do it. Unfortunately Bills are a good team but not a great team yet. So that leaves us fans with a lot of feel good ‘what if’ scenarios. 1 1 Quote
NyQuil Posted February 28 Posted February 28 16 hours ago, Success said: KC worship & KC paranoia are getting pretty carried away on this board. I get that they have been a nemesis in the playoffs, but some fans are getting way over the top. Don’t forget to add a dash of Buffalo defeatism. Quote
mannc Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) A couple weeks ago, Joe Marino did a whole episode on the Chiefs’ MO and how they got where they are. It’s definitely with a listen and highly relevant given that the Chiefs are the Bills’ primary rival and share fact that they are able to build around a top tier franchise QB. Marino noted that the Chiefs have only three starters from their 2020 Super Bowl team, and that since drafting Mahomes, they’ve spent 17 of their 24 premium draft picks on defense. Getting ready to move on from Sneed seems consistent with their long-term philosophy. Edited February 28 by mannc 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted February 28 Posted February 28 19 hours ago, SCBills said: Came here to post just this. Meanwhile we're over here with post-injury Tre and 30 year old Douglas, acting afraid to do anything with either of them. I think Beane has done okay on getting value in our second contracts with players, which is what KC has failed to do here. I’m not sure what your point is. Quote
BuffaloBill Posted February 28 Posted February 28 18 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Veach and Reid are playing chess. Beane and McD are playing checkers Ouch Quote
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