NFL Scouting Combine 2024

[KingBoots8]

6 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

If we are going the DT route in like round 2 give me Kris Jenkins from Michigan and I’m calling it a day 

Love Jenkins at 60. I hope we go WR, DT, DE, S in the first 4 rounds provided we keep all those picks. I’d be ok with moving that order around depending on how the draft falls but, ideally, I’d love to see something like this (pre-combine, pre FA):

 

rd 1: WR Franklin

rd 2: DT Jenkins

rd 3: BPA for DE (Dorlus/Elliss), S (Bishop/Hicks), or WR (Wilson/Thrash)

rd 4: BPA same as above, preferably for a position not drafted yet unless someone really falls

 

[KingBoots8]

DTs taking the field now. Will post relevant updates to main post as time permits 

[K-9]

Don’t care if this guy proves to be the greatest CB prospect in history, Beane should stay as far away as possible.

 

 

[KingBoots8]

Early results: Fiske is a freak. Currently leads for vertical jump, broad jump, and ran 4.78 40-yard time

 

Maason smith came in a touch over 5s, looked comfortable post-injury (knee). 

Mekhi Wingo was at 4.87

 

2nd runs about to start

 

DeWayne Carter keeps jumping a touch too early

Edited February 29 by KingBoots8

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

30 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Love Jenkins at 60. I hope we go WR, DT, DE, S in the first 4 rounds provided we keep all those picks. I’d be ok with moving that order around depending on how the draft falls but, ideally, I’d love to see something like this (pre-combine, pre FA):

 

rd 1: WR Franklin

rd 2: DT Jenkins

rd 3: BPA for DE (Dorlus/Elliss), S (Bishop/Hicks), or WR (Wilson/Thrash)

rd 4: BPA same as above, preferably for a position not drafted yet unless someone really falls

 

Is that Kris Jenkins son? Sign me up, dude was a monster.

[transplantbillsfan]

2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

Is that Kris Jenkins son? Sign me up, dude was a monster.

 

Yes it is.  His son isn't the behemoth the Carolina DT was, though. 

[Roundybout]

 

“Mr. Fix-It” is a great nickname 

[Prospector]

55 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I know that lineman definitely lose 20-30 lb at training camp

 

All the time

 

And if your a lineman if you can gain more mass while keeping the same speed and athleticism that's also never a bad thing

 

Dion being a road grader at 330..  is way more imposing than being 310

 

I've also had his back here for years and said the same thing last year when everybody was bashing him and I said it's not a problem he's our best lineman

 

Thanks for playing

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/uncrustables-weigh-ins-and-h2o-how-nfl-s-offensive-defensive-linemen-manage-thei

 

Wilkin says he loses 10 lb a practice

 

Now you replenish so you don't become malnourished... But it's very easy to lose 20-30 lb in a training camp as a big guy

 

You obviously don't want a wide receiver coming in 30 lb heavy.. it's not the end of the world for a lineman who is a veteran and knows what he needs to do

Training Camp and preseason isn't meant to get a player into shape. They should already have their conditioning pretty well maintained, and camp helps fine tune the conditioning to game condition. It is not designed to undo an entire offseason of being an out of shape slug. Dion has started multiple REGULAR seasons out of shape and looking sluggish and slow. As the seasons progressed he slowly got better and better as he was getting into better shape. There are ways to keep weight up during the season, just as there are ways to not show up completely out of shape when camp starts... (FYI, this has nothing to do with his athletic freakishness)

[Warriorspikes51]

30 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Don’t care if this guy proves to be the greatest CB prospect in history, Beane should stay as far away as possible.

 

 

 

Free Country let him believe whatever he wants.  

[Nephilim17]

30 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Don’t care if this guy proves to be the greatest CB prospect in history, Beane should stay as far away as possible.

 

 

This is both hilarious and sad.

It's like a young adult saying, "I don't believe in gravity."

Also an indictment of the athlete-scholarship system where total idiots not only get into a school but often emerge with a university degree.

[gonzo1105]

Fiske is an absolute stud. He’s 100% a 3 tech but as an FSU guy he is my favorite prospect by far from FSU. Great player, supposedly a great guy and is a monster interior player despite being 292. He’s going to go in round 2. if he was 315 he’d be going top 15 

Edited February 29 by gonzo1105

[BillsFan2313]

6 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

“Mr. Fix-It” is a great nickname 

 

This dudes game fits what McD wants. I can see him being a target 

[KingBoots8]

Dorlus ran 4.85 and 4.91, great series for him

 

Eboigbe was something like 5.18 and 5.21

 

Fiske at 4.78 and 4.81 - the fastest so far today and leading in all the jump metrics as well
 

Gabe Hall in at 5.06 and 5.04

Marcus Harris 5.08 and 5.07

 

Mckinnley Jackson 5.27 and 5.26

 

Kris Jenkins 5.02 and 4.91 - nice second run!

Logan Lee: 5.05 and 5.06

 

Zion Logue: 5.14 and 5.22 - bad start 

 

Byron Murphy Ii: 4.88 and 4.9 -

 

Myles Murphy: 5.21 and 5.25

 

 

Edited February 29 by KingBoots8

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Prospector said:

Training Camp and preseason isn't meant to get a player into shape. They should already have their conditioning pretty well maintained, and camp helps fine tune the conditioning to game condition. It is not designed to undo an entire offseason of being an out of shape slug. Dion has started multiple REGULAR seasons out of shape and looking sluggish and slow. As the seasons progressed he slowly got better and better as he was getting into better shape. There are ways to keep weight up during the season, just as there are ways to not show up completely out of shape when camp starts... (FYI, this has nothing to do with his athletic freakishness)

 

Even when he starts slow he's not a bad football player and it's not because of his weight

 

If he was 410 lb it would be concerning 

 

He has never been a liability on the field and he's always been ready to play

 

He is not a finesse tackle he is a road grader... He uses mass to lean on people... To be physically imposing he needs to be as big as possible while maintaining his athleticism

 

It's not a problem if he's 30 lb overweight... In February

 

He certainly is not 30 lb overweight in September 

 

Being a professional football player is like being a professional boxer.. you can't stay in peak boxing condition 52 weeks straight

 

That's why they go to a training camp for a fight and physically get into the best boxing shape.. you cannot maintain that peak form for 52 weeks

 

Football players also cannot maintain that for 52 weeks and you have to find a balance... You definitely don't want to peek in September

 

Dion Dawkins is a naturally huge man and if his balance.. is gaining 30 lb in the off-season 

 

As a 6'5 man who could carry alot of weight that is not the worst thing .. especially for a position that they call the big uglies... They're called that for a reason they are big boys

 

Until he shows he can't move it's not a problem

Edited February 29 by Buffalo716

[noacls]

5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Fiske is an absolute stud. He’s 100% a 3 tech but as an FSU guy he is my favorite prospect by far from FSU. Great player, supposedly a great guy and is a monster interior player despite being 292. He’s going to go in round 2. if he was 315 he’d be going top 15 

With what he is doing today and what he did at Senior Bowl he may go in 1st

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

14 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yes it is.  His son isn't the behemoth the Carolina DT was, though. 

Even still, he had major athletism for a guy his size, his son should inherit that.

[Prospector]

7 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Even when he starts slow he's not a bad football player and it's not because of his weight

 

If he was 410 lb it would be concerning 

 

He has never been a liability on the field and he's always been ready to play

 

He is not a finesse tackle he is a road grader... He uses mass to lean on people... To be physically imposing he needs to be as big as possible while maintaining his athleticism

 

It's not a problem if he's 30 lb overweight... In February

 

He certainly is not 30 lb overweight in September 

 

Being a professional football player is like being a professional boxer.. you can't stay in peak boxing condition 52 weeks straight

 

That's why they go to a training camp for a fight and physically get into the best boxing shape.. you cannot maintain that peak form for 52 weeks

 

Football players also cannot maintain that for 52 weeks and you have to find a balance... You definitely don't want to peek in September

 

Dion Dawkins is a naturally huge man and if his balance.. is gaining 30 lb in the off-season 

 

As a 6'5 man who could carry alot of weight that is not the worst thing .. especially for a position that they call the big uglies... They're called that for a reason they are big boys

 

Until he shows he can't move it's not a problem

ok... I will stop here. This isn't a thread for this convo

[SoonerBillsFan]

We need to come out of this draft with a starting WR, possibly a starting Safety, a damn good DE who csn develop into a 10+ sack guy and a stud 1 tech DT.  I don't Care where we draft, the players are there we just have to pick right.

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, noacls said:

With what he is doing today and what he did at Senior Bowl he may go in 1st

He’s too undersized and only has one year of major production in power 5. Love the player. I could see a 3-4 team drafting him higher based on body type but that would be a waste to put him in a 3-4. He deserves to go round 1 but I just can’t see it happening unless it’s like the last 3 picks but he’s done a great job going from a round 3 guy to a high to mid 2nd rounder imo 

[Augie]

19 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

This is both hilarious and sad.

It's like a young adult saying, "I don't believe in gravity."

Also an indictment of the athlete-scholarship system where total idiots not only get into a school but often emerge with a university degree.

 

My sister used to teach in a prison outside of Boston. She was teaching “kids” with high school diplomas how to write their name. She had to change jobs when her “graduates” started coming up to her on the city streets.