Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 3 Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, T master said: It seems as if all that don't agree with you are cultists, irrational, and in love with the orange man are we seeing a pattern developing here ??? 🤔 yes, the pattern is uninformed, unquestioning MAGAs who get their info from an echo chamber. 11 minutes ago, BillStime said: Desantis went looking for a quack like him. What a cynical pos. And the MAGAs applaud him. it's stupid versus not stupid throughout the country. 1 1
Doc Posted March 3 Posted March 3 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: you are a cultist. it seems you really believe this bs with mountains of evidence to the contrary. this is the inverse of rational thought. LOL! What "evidence"? 1
T master Posted March 3 Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: yes, the pattern is uninformed, unquestioning MAGAs who get their info from an echo chamber. Desantis went looking for a quack like him. What a cynical pos. And the MAGAs applaud him. it's stupid versus not stupid throughout the country. Well hey the entire country if no the world believed Faucie when he was spewing his BS that masks worked when most folks with any common sense knew they didn't yet there are still those that wear them . Oh and that Faucie didn't give money to any other labs to do research of that virus OKAY ... And now we are finding out (if you really look) that the vaccine did almost as much bad as it did good and that young children really don't & didn't need the jab . And Faucie has increased his income by millions since spewing that kind of BS and knew it was basically BS . So where is the difference ? If people aren't smart enough to do some research & find out whats real and depend on others then you get what you get i guess . 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, T master said: Well hey the entire country if no the world believed Faucie when he was spewing his BS that masks worked when most folks with any common sense knew they didn't yet there are still those that wear them . Oh and that Faucie didn't give money to any other labs to do research of that virus OKAY ... And now we are finding out (if you really look) that the vaccine did almost as much bad as it did good and that young children really don't & didn't need the jab . And Faucie has increased his income by millions since spewing that kind of BS and knew it was basically BS . So where is the difference ? If people aren't smart enough to do some research & find out whats real and depend on others then you get what you get i guess . If people are not following bbp standards for disposal and removal it can be doing more harm than good. Interesting history of measles and immunity. For hundreds of years soldiers, sailers and farmers would use pus from a dead person onto a cut on themselves. While all medical industry was shouting it down as crazy while supporting things like bleeding and removing the limb to stop the spread.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 3 Posted March 3 24 minutes ago, Doc said: LOL! What "evidence"? Have you read any of the indictments ?
T master Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: If people are not following bbp standards for disposal and removal it can be doing more harm than good. Interesting history of measles and immunity. For hundreds of years soldiers, sailers and farmers would use pus from a dead person onto a cut on themselves. While all medical industry was shouting it down as crazy while supporting things like bleeding and removing the limb to stop the spread. In modern medicine it is like everything else today it's all about the money !! When the medical community found out they could patent natural herbs and such that could cure a medical problem they had to develop synthetic or man made substances in order to profit from sickness hence Big Pharma . Fast forward to "The New Lazy America" that wants everything to be cured by taking a pill that in the HUNDREDS of commercials on TV now for a pill that cures 1 thing yet causes 22 different others that they have a pill in the waiting for when you get that particular sickness . It just amazes me todays mentality on being cured of medical issues . I am 62 years old & all the glory to god for it 🙌 i am on NO meds !! Not that the Dr that sat across from me when i had a sinus infection that reeked of cigarettes insisted that i needed to be on this certain pill every day to stop my yearly sinus infection . 🙄 Since that visit i haven't had another but he would rather i be on some kind of meds he prescribed so i could get sick from it in order for him to make more money . There are many homeopathic type things to help but modern medicine wants no part of it because they can't make a profit big enough to afford a BMW . But hey lets keep putting out round up & all those chemicals in our food to keep it on the shelves for months or putting clorox bleach in our water ... Edited March 3 by T master 1 1
BillStime Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 28 minutes ago, T master said: Faucie Your cult leaders have done an exceptional job ensuring that you never blame the person most accountable for what occurs in the United States. 1
T master Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BillStime said: Your cult leaders have done an exceptional job ensuring that you never blame the person most accountable for what occurs in the United States. There is plenty of people that are Doctors & scientists that have damming evidence against what Fauci put out as weak as masks help . My daughter is a RN and at the very beginning of the pandemic when he was spewing the BS that masks would help stop the spread she being schooled in how to use the proper masks for that kind of thing told me in no uncertain terms that there was only 1 mask that IF & Only IF fitted right could help which was the N-95 i believe it was but could only be used once then thrown away . But you still have wing nuts running around with paper masks, T-shirts & other such useless things because they believe the BS that he was telling everyone hell he even made Joe believe enough to go on national television and tell all Americans listening that "If you get the vaccine you will not be able to get the virus" TOTAL 100 PERCENT BULL ***** .. Thank you Dr Fauci !!! But once again it's all Trump you really need help dude !!! Edited March 3 by T master 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 3 Posted March 3 13 minutes ago, T master said: In modern medicine it is like everything else today it's all about the money !! When the medical community found out they could patent natural herbs and such that could cure a medical problem they had to develop synthetic or man made substances in order to profit from sickness hence Big Pharma . Fast forward to "The New Lazy America" that wants everything to be cured by taking a pill that in the HUNDREDS of commercials on TV now for a pill that cures 1 thing yet causes 22 different others that they have a pill in the waiting for when you get that particular sickness . It just amazes me todays mentality on being cured of medical issues . I am 62 years old & all the glory to god for it 🙌 i am on NO meds !! Not that the Dr that sat across from me when i had a sinus infection that reeked of cigarettes insisted that i needed to be on this certain pill every day to stop my yearly sinus infection . 🙄 Since that visit i haven't had another but he would rather i be on some kind of meds he prescribed so i could get sick from it in order for him to make more money . There are many homeopathic type things to help but modern medicine wants no part of it because they can't make a profit big enough to afford a BMW . But hey lets keep putting out round up & all those chemicals in our food to keep it on the shelves for months or putting clorox bleach in our water ... OMG You are so lost 1
BillStime Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, T master said: My daughter is a RN and at the very beginning of the pandemic when he was spewing the BS that masks would help stop the spread she being schooled in how to use the proper masks for that kind of thing told me in no uncertain terms that there was only 1 mask that IF & Only IF fitted right could help which was the N-95 i believe it was but could only be used once then thrown away . The cults obsession with masks is ridiculous. If masks didn't work - big fkn deal. If they did and saved a life, great. Several of my family members are educators. They appreciated when students were required to wear masks because it resulted in fewer illnesses. When the masks disappeared - the spread of diseases and respiratory illness increased. Edited March 3 by BillStime
BillStime Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 22 minutes ago, T master said: But once again it's all Trump you really need help dude !!! Was he not POTUS when Covid arrived? Where does the buck stop?
T master Posted March 3 Posted March 3 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: OMG You are so lost Chew on this A Hole !!! Then only after you have watched this come back & tell me just how lost i am Dip S**T & if you don't take the time to watch any of this that will tell you just ho lost you really are then from this point forward shut you C**K Holster because you don't have a F N clue !! 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Was he not POTUS when Covid arrived? Where does the buck stop? Yes he was . Are you a parent ??? What do you do for work ?? Please answer these 2 things & only after this will i answer the second part of your question ... 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, T master said: Chew on this A Hole !!! Then only after you have watched this come back & tell me just how lost i am Dip S**T & if you don't take the time to watch any of this that will tell you just ho lost you really are then from this point forward shut you C**K Holster because you don't have a F N clue !! Yes he was . Are you a parent ??? What do you do for work ?? Please answer these 2 things & only after this will i answer the second part of your question ... Here’s just one of the differences in our thought processes: when asking a scientific question I go to scientific sources https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm you don’t. There’s a grain of truth to your multiple complaints about medicine. But the theme is wrong. If you want someone to blame look at the corporatizing of medicine. Edited March 3 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
T master Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Here’s just one of the differences in our thought processes: when asking a scientific question I go to scientific sources https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm you don’t. There’s a grain of truth to your multiple complaints about medicine. But the theme is wrong. If you want someone to blame look at the corporatizing of medicine. Who do you think runs the FDA ??? It's pretty apparent ... And its apparent you haven't taken the time to watch any of that that i sent so I'm done have a nice day ... Edited March 3 by T master 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 7 hours ago, T master said: Well its apparent you haven't taken the time to watch any of that that i sent so I'm done have a nice day ... Docs wanting bmw’s aren’t the problem. Doc reimbursement is a small fraction of US healthcare costs. Medical administrators outnumber them about 10 to 1, often are paid more and are largely unnecessary. Care would change little by eliminating half of them. Drug and insurance companies are also leeches but at least the drug companies produce valuable weapons but at the highest cost in the world. Edited March 3 by Joe Ferguson forever
The Frankish Reich Posted March 3 Posted March 3 49 minutes ago, T master said: all those chemicals in our food to keep it on the shelves for months Yes, this reference makes some sense. 50 minutes ago, T master said: or putting clorox bleach in our water ... And this is just ignorant nonsense. What is Clorox bleach? Chlorine! It's in every municipal water supply so that you don't get nasty things like giardia and a whole host of other water-borne pathogens. https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/public/water_disinfection.html#:~:text=Chlorine and chloramine are the,your utility's consumer confidence report . You are attacking the most basic, effective public health measures that have largely eliminated a whole category of infectious disease in America. Drink/cook with only bottled water if you choose. But don't try to move us back to 1870.
BillStime Posted March 3 Author Posted March 3 15 minutes ago, T master said: Yes he was . Are you a parent ??? What do you do for work ?? Please answer these 2 things & only after this will i answer the second part of your question ... Parent = Yes Work = Tech consulting
T master Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) 42 minutes ago, BillStime said: Parent = Yes Work = Tech consulting When your first child was born did you know everything you needed to know immediately after their birth about being parent ? The first day you accepted your very first Tech consultant job did you know everything that you needed to know about Tech consultation or did you have to learn about it as you went along ? When the POTUS at the time that covid made it's first known appearance in the US di the or any one in the entire medical field immediately know anything about the virus & how to stop or cure it ?? The buck stops with those in charge of "Learning" about the virus, then passing on permanent information like only certain masks will help not a generalized statement making people believe that ALL masks help ! How about this one for a start - Why didn't they tell us that by boosting your immunity which is your own bodies way of fighting off viruses was the best place to start instead of the Mask thing & immediately going right to the narrative that a vaccine was needed ? Could that have been because HUGE profit was seen to be made ? And now we know the country & a big share of the businesses didn't need to be shut down yes precautions needed to be taken but nothing that drastic . I saw something that those "FREE" vaccines generated in the first year alone (which was paid for by the federal gov't) some $93 BILLION but they were FREE RIGHT ??? So you blame Trump - His term in office ended Jan. 20th of 2021 which was basically Bidens first days in office Right ? So the first confirmed cases of covid were in Wuhan on Jan. 7th but said to be associated to the sea food market (LIES) then the very first confirmed case in the US was Jan. 20th 2020 which at that time everyone including scientist here in the US & the at the time POTUS knew nothing absolutely NOTHING about this virus . Then given a year until Biden took office The orange man was being told by those given the job of finding out how to treat it gave his opinion because of what they or more precise what Fauci was telling him just how to go about helping but being a business man didn't want to shut down the world because of it . Then Jan. 20th of 2021 Biden steps in with much more information about the virus than Trump had & implemented what he thought was to be the truth of how to handle it so having that year of info one would think he should have known better what to do yet the shut down continued, supply interruptions came to be because of the shut down & so on . Then he put so much faith in those that were suppose to know what was being done he went on national TV & told me that "if i get the vaccine i couldn't get the virus" Really ??? So you made fun of Trump making a hypothetical statement that we inject the body with a cleaning effect if you listen he uses what if or supposed as he's talking because he doesn't know & is basically refering to what the Doctors or scientists have briefed him on . He in no way said we are going to do this but that was your interpretation as to follow you narrative . But Joe can out & out lie and oh he just mis spoke ... Come on . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d57zJr82dhQ Edited March 3 by T master 2
Doc Posted March 3 Posted March 3 52 minutes ago, T master said: When your first child was born did you know everything you needed to know immediately after their birth about being parent ? The first day you accepted your very first Tech consultant job did you know everything that you needed to know about Tech consultation or did you have to learn about it as you went along ? When the POTUS at the time that covid made it's first known appearance in the US di the or any one in the entire medical field immediately know anything about the virus & how to stop or cure it ?? The buck stops with those in charge of "Learning" about the virus, then passing on permanent information like only certain masks will help not a generalized statement making people believe that ALL masks help ! How about this one for a start - Why didn't they tell us that by boosting your immunity which is your own bodies way of fighting off viruses was the best place to start instead of the Mask thing & immediately going right to the narrative that a vaccine was needed ? Could that have been because HUGE profit was seen to be made ? And now we know the country & a big share of the businesses didn't need to be shut down yes precautions needed to be taken but nothing that drastic . I saw something that those "FREE" vaccines generated in the first year alone (which was paid for by the federal gov't) some $93 BILLION but they were FREE RIGHT ??? So you blame Trump - His term in office ended Jan. 20th of 2021 which was basically Bidens first days in office Right ? So the first confirmed cases of covid were in Wuhan on Jan. 7th but said to be associated to the sea food market (LIES) then the very first confirmed case in the US was Jan. 20th 2020 which at that time everyone including scientist here in the US & the at the time POTUS knew nothing absolutely NOTHING about this virus . Then given a year until Biden took office The orange man was being told by those given the job of finding out how to treat it gave his opinion because of what they or more precise what Fauci was telling him just how to go about helping but being a business man didn't want to shut down the world because of it . Then Jan. 20th of 2021 Biden steps in with much more information about the virus than Trump had & implemented what he thought was to be the truth of how to handle it so having that year of info one would think he should have known better what to do yet the shut down continued, supply interruptions came to be because of the shut down & so on . Then he put so much faith in those that were suppose to know what was being done he went on national TV & told me that "if i get the vaccine i couldn't get the virus" Really ??? So you made fun of Trump making a hypothetical statement that we inject the body with a cleaning effect if you listen he uses what if or supposed as he's talking because he doesn't know & is basically refering to what the Doctors or scientists have briefed him on . He in no way said we are going to do this but that was your interpretation as to follow you narrative . But Joe can out & out lie and oh he just mis spoke ... Come on . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d57zJr82dhQ Don't bother. These idiots made up their minds that Wuhan virus, though no one knew anything about it and there were no treatments at all, was all Trump's fault. They aren't to be taken seriously. Especially when Joke did a worse job given what he had available. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted March 3 Posted March 3 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Stop watching Fox and then spreading their lies. As a teacher, I hope you teach your students to fact check better than you do. https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/fox-news-laura-ingraham-baselessly-blames-migrants-for-florida-measles-outbreak-19135718 For a "doctor" you seem to have a very poor understanding of how viruses are introduced to a population. If measles were eradicated from the area for the past 20+ years, where do you suggest the initial infection came from? Secondly only 4% are not vaccinated in Florida schools of people here legally, so it is amazing you think the majority of non vaccinated students got the illness that fast in the school 1
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