Niagara Bill Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 17 hours ago, Doc said: The difference is all the bolded stuff is happening/has already happened, versus speculating what might happen under Trump. I used the word premise for a reason, but, some events and actions already did happen 4 years ago, so the possibility for the Trump future actions is more than just wild forecasting, it is very likely. Either way, the couch may win the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 6 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: I used the word premise for a reason, but, some events and actions already did happen 4 years ago, so the possibility for the Trump future actions is more than just wild forecasting, it is very likely. Either way, the couch may win the election. As we now know, the risk of a break-in into the Capitol was known the day before J6 and additional security was once again refused. Which is why Nancy took responsibility for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Niagara Bill Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Doc said: As we now know, the risk of a break-in into the Capitol was known the day before J6 and additional security was once again refused. Which is why Nancy took responsibility for it. Blaming a non participant is deflecting the responsibility from trump. Nancy has her many many faults including fostering the likes of AOC and Harris. She went too far left to bridge the gap to repub mods. She was in no small way a leading cause of the rise of AOC gang and Gaetz and Green. She may have made a bad call on Jan 5th, but she is not responsible to the behavior of trump and friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 27 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Blaming a non participant is deflecting the responsibility from trump. Nancy has her many many faults including fostering the likes of AOC and Harris. She went too far left to bridge the gap to repub mods. She was in no small way a leading cause of the rise of AOC gang and Gaetz and Green. She may have made a bad call on Jan 5th, but she is not responsible to the behavior of trump and friends What non participant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 14 minutes ago, Doc said: What non participant? So now she was behind the grassy knoll? Like Trump didn't ask or accept more security which almost cost him his life. Nancy was trusting of the system, she is a bad judge of potential circumstances, but in no way did she create the crowd, gang and mercenaries following Buffalohead. That is like blaming the democrats for not have additional locks on the door at the Watergate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: So now she was behind the grassy knoll? Like Trump didn't ask or accept more security which almost cost him his life. Nancy was trusting of the system, she is a bad judge of potential circumstances, but in no way did she create the crowd, gang and mercenaries following Buffalohead. That is like blaming the democrats for not have additional locks on the door at the Watergate. The Capitol breach was the seminal event that day. If that didn't happen, it's a "mostly peaceful protest" like the Summer of 2020 was. The claim was made that Trump's speech caused people to break in. Now we just learned that they knew people were planning on breaking in the day before he even gave his speech. So, besides the idiots who decided to break into the Capitol of their own volition, a lot of the blame for the Capitol being breached is on those who improperly assessed/ignored the security concers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 20 minutes ago, Doc said: The Capitol breach was the seminal event that day. If that didn't happen, it's a "mostly peaceful protest" like the Summer of 2020 was. The claim was made that Trump's speech caused people to break in. Now we just learned that they knew people were planning on breaking in the day before he even gave his speech. So, besides the idiots who decided to break into the Capitol of their own volition, a lot of the blame for the Capitol being breached is on those who improperly assessed/ignored the security concers. Blaming the victim. The responsibility for the break in rests on those who broke in. They wouldn't have been there if Trump had accepted the results of the free and fair election that he lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 30 minutes ago, Doc said: The Capitol breach was the seminal event that day. If that didn't happen, it's a "mostly peaceful protest" like the Summer of 2020 was. The claim was made that Trump's speech caused people to break in. Now we just learned that they knew people were planning on breaking in the day before he even gave his speech. So, besides the idiots who decided to break into the Capitol of their own volition, a lot of the blame for the Capitol being breached is on those who improperly assessed/ignored the security concers. Nixon would never have resigned if the dems had more locks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 18 minutes ago, Scraps said: Blaming the victim. The responsibility for the break in rests on those who broke in. They wouldn't have been there if Trump had accepted the results of the free and fair election that he lost. Yup. It was entirely their fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 39 minutes ago, Scraps said: Blaming the victim. The responsibility for the break in rests on those who broke in. They wouldn't have been there if Trump had accepted the results of the free and fair election that he lost. These fools won’t get that. They support him for crying out loud, they obviously don’t get much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurmal34 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Imagine wanting to restrict voting because you figured out your ideas suck. buh bye 35% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 8/1/2024 at 9:17 PM, Doc said: Yup. It was entirely their fault. Exactly, nothing is Trumps fault. Sharing classified docs with a random wench? He thought "declassified " to himself when dropping the kids off at the pool. Pressuring Raffensberger to change votes? That was Brad's fault. Totally correct, absolutely nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 8 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Exactly, nothing is Trumps fault. Sharing classified docs with a random wench? He thought "declassified " to himself when dropping the kids off at the pool. Pressuring Raffensberger to change votes? That was Brad's fault. Totally correct, absolutely nothing wrong. Biden had and shared classified docs with a random wench back in 2017 and he didn't give them back until 5 years later. He was deemed too senile to prosecute, remember? And unlike Trump, he was never in a position to declassify/possess anything. You have no moral high ground here. And pressuring Raffensberger to "change votes"? LOL! 39 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Translation: she's terrible at public speaking/interviews so we'll let the ads do the talking instead. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted August 8 Share Posted August 8 Hahahahahahahahaha. "What is Project 2025, anyway?" the well-meaning voter asked the big-name mainstream media journalist. "That's the beauty of Project 2025," the big-name journalist said in a rare moment of candor. "It can be anything we need it to be. Really, it's just a wish list of policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation, the kind of thing Heritage and every other think tank puts out every four years. But nobody ever reads them so it's really easy for us big-name media people to make them out to be whatever we need them to be." The well-meaning voter looked perplexed. "I don't get it." "Project 2025 is a conservative platform and my network — hell, all the networks — have spent decades telling people that conservatism, especially social conservatism, means bringing back slavery and turning women into real-life 'Handmaid's Tale' baby factories. So it didn't take any work at all to take a pretty meaningless phrase like 'Project 2025' and make it sound like Freddy Krueger with a Bible in one hand and a whip in the other." "What if people Google it?" The big-name journalist laughed. "They're on the same team we're on. Why do you think the White House programmed their brain-dead moron to shout, 'Google Project 2025!' every nine minutes?" "I still don't see what good it does," the well-meaning voter said. "That's the beauty of it, why we spend so many years laying all this groundwork. We tell you that Trump is crazy and evil. We tell you that Project 2025 is evil and crazy. And then we tie the two together. Heritage is conservative. Trump is conservative. Elect Trump and he'll institute Project 2025." "Didn't Trump disavow the whole thing?" "You bet he did," the big-name journalist admitted. "The Heritage guy in charge of the project even resigned after that. Good riddance, as far as I'm concerned — just another Republican scalp, and I didn't even need to get my tomahawk. But we didn't give those stories much coverage. And when we did, we made you think the Republicans were in chaos, infighting, all that stuff." The big-name journalist had gotten himself so excited that he couldn't stop talking. "I've got some friends at the Washington Post — Isaac Arnsdorf, Josh Dawsey, Hannah Knowles. Dedicated players. They just ran another hit piece this week. You should see the headline. 'Trump took a private flight with Project 2025 leader in 2022.'" "That's it?" the well-meaning voter asked. "Two big names on the right shared a flight and that's supposed to make me believe all that Handmaid stuff?" "Yeah, you're right, the Washington Post has lost its touch. And, honestly, the Project 2025 thing hasn't done much for us. But we still have a couple of advantages. One is that we get to throw spaghetti up against the wall and see what sticks. The other is that we never, ever run out of spaghetti." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 An old @BillStime laugher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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