Gunsgoodtime Posted February 20 Posted February 20 5 hours ago, Logic said: The weirdest thing to me is seeing, on the one hand, almost unanimous agreement among Bills fans that they want to upgrade from Gabe Davis, and on the other hand, a bunch of "just don't stay in the AFC!" and "anyone but the Chiefs!" comments. Feeling that a player isn't good enough for you to want your team to re-sign him, but that he IS good enough that you don't want him to go to an AFC competitor and come back to haunt you, is kind of a weird spot to be in. I think its just the fear in fans that once he moves on, Gabe Davis might learn how to catch a football 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 20 Posted February 20 16 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I saw this on Gabe’s Instagram tonight, but then found someone who posted to Twitter too, so posting both links in case it’s easier for someone to watch one over the other. Kind of looks like he is putting this out to both highlight his time here and promote his accomplishments ahead of Free Agency. Smart move. Even though I’ve been in the camp to let him go and draft a WR this year, this was still a fun watch and he has brought some big moments and games to his time in Buffalo. He makes a good case for himself at the end with the stats and rankings combined with the low targets compared to others. Overall this is a great piece for himself ahead of free agency and so enjoyed it and I wish him well. Link to video on Gabe’s actual account: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3jSE3WMeRO/?igsh=ZDE1MWVjZGVmZQ== Someone reposting it on Twitter: Thanks OP. That is one hell of a highlight reel. I would love to have him back, but someone is going to pay him to be a WR 1 and we can not afford to do that. Hate to see him go. 1 Quote
Billl Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 20 Posted February 20 39 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: He doesn’t do anything well, bye Gabe. He's good at finding soft spots in zone, putting vertical stress on a defense, blocking, sideline awareness, and making himself available when Josh extended the play going off script. He's always had a drop issue and just doesn't separate quick enough in the short to intermediate routes when teams play man to man. We need a WR2 who can do that consistently. 2 Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target Different roles in the offense but there's some important distinctions between the two (besides one being an outside X WR and the other being a TE/big slot target). Allen's passer rating when targeting Davis - 87.9. Reception percentage when targeted at 57.7%. Drop percentage at 8.2%. Allen's passer rating when targeting Kincaid - 96.2. Reception percentage when targeted at 80.2%. Drop percentage at 4.2%. 2 1 Quote
buffaloboyinATL Posted February 20 Posted February 20 13 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target They're the same age?! Crazy. I would never have guessed that. I would love to have Davis back, but I highly doubt we will be able to afford him. Someone will pay him like a WR1. Quote
Beast Posted February 20 Posted February 20 20 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target And 32 out of 32 NFL GM’s would take Kincaid over Davis if building a team from scratch. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Except, he has shown to be that...when healthy and utilized properly. I hope he goes to the NFC Why be worried about where he goes ? I got nothing against the guy… I hope the next 4th round WR pick Beane makes contributes as much … (it’s probably unreasonable to expect much more from a 4th round selection) and I hope he gets some dollars on this deal because he might not be making much the next contract .. But he isn’t or never will be some elite guy… 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 20 Posted February 20 27 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target 4 year guy v rookie who never started playing the game until his HS senior year WR v TE… If it makes you feel any better … Davis will be 25 in a month .. 1 Quote
Billl Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: 4 year guy v rookie who never started playing the game until his HS senior year WR v TE… If it makes you feel any better … Davis will be 25 in a month .. Gabe Davis as a rookie: 21 years old, 600 yards, 7 TDs, 9.7 yards per target Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis as a rookie: 21 years old, 600 yards, 7 TDs, 9.7 yards per target So what point you trying to make ? That Davis is a better prospect? Quote
Bob in STL Posted February 20 Posted February 20 43 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target apples and oranges Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target Gabe Davis- 4 years in the league, WR Dalton Kincaid- Rookie year, TE Edited February 20 by Gunsgoodtime Quote
RiotAct Posted February 20 Posted February 20 I think losing Gabe is going to end up being a huge nothingburger. Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 20 Posted February 20 38 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Different roles in the offense but there's some important distinctions between the two (besides one being an outside X WR and the other being a TE/big slot target). Allen's passer rating when targeting Davis - 87.9. Reception percentage when targeted at 57.7%. Drop percentage at 8.2%. Allen's passer rating when targeting Kincaid - 96.2. Reception percentage when targeted at 80.2%. Drop percentage at 4.2%. I'm not sure what Bill is trying to prove, but his mistake was posting that and thinking that people with eyes and vision could somehow read his post and not be able to watch the actual players on the football field. A big swing and a miss. Quote
Billl Posted February 20 Posted February 20 12 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: So what point you trying to make ? That Davis is a better prospect? My point is that Davis gets dumped on here when he's been an incredible value to the team for four years. He's not a game wrecker, but he's provided competent WR2 play for less than a million dollars a season. If Kincaid has 2700 yards and 27 TDs in his first 4 seasons, Bills fans will be fitting him for a gold jacket. Meanwhile, his average salary in one season is roughly what Davis earned on his entire rookie deal. I guess I don't understand why everyone is so hostile towards a guy who never complained and vastly out-performed his contract and draft slot. 1 Quote
GoBills! Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Gabe leaving is the same as when Robert Woods left, great in play action and downfield blocking, team player but someone else can pay him we can’t afford it nor is it smart with our other needs. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 20 Posted February 20 Just now, Billl said: My point is that Davis gets dumped on here when he's been an incredible value to the team for four years. He's not a game wrecker, but he's provided competent WR2 play for less than a million dollars a season. If Kincaid has 2700 yards and 27 TDs in his first 4 seasons, Bills fans will be fitting him for a gold jacket. Meanwhile, his average salary in one season is roughly what Davis earned on his entire rookie deal. I guess I don't understand why everyone is so hostile towards a guy who never complained and vastly out-performed his contract and draft slot. You seem to have been down on Kincaid since he got here .. I remember you telling us mid season when Knox got injured that there was no chance that Kincaid would be able to step into the position and be as productive … Davis is out the door … even if he was better than what he is, the reality is that given their cap situation and handcuffs to Diggs and Miller ..they can’t keep him…Im sorry we aren’t as sentimental about his past performances like your colleagues on Chiefs Planet no doubt would be in similar circumstances about one of their players moving on.. As I alluded to above … Davis has definitely out performed a 4th round level position though… not that we have a lot of experience there because Beane normally can’t trade these quick enough to move up two spots Quote
HappyDays Posted February 20 Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Billl said: Gabe Davis: 24 years old. 750 yards, 7 TDs, 9.2 yards per target Dalton Kincaid: 24 years old, 650 yards, 2 TDs, 7.4 yards per target Tyreek Hill with Tua throwing him the ball (per season): 119 receptions, 1,754 yards, 10 TDs Tyreek Hill with Mahomes throwing him the ball (per season): 86 receptions, 1,213 yards, 11 TDs Edited February 20 by HappyDays 1 Quote
Billl Posted February 20 Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: You seem to have been down on Kincaid since he got here .. I remember you telling us mid season when Knox got injured that there was no chance that Kincaid would be able to step into the position and be as productive Your memory is so good you even remember things that never happened, then. Kincaid is a solid player. I've never said otherwise. Quote
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