finn Posted February 16 Posted February 16 This with a single top receiver--and even he dropped off a cliff midseason. Screw the defense. Give this man three top receivers, good protection, and a run game, and he will score 75 points a game. 21 6 1 5 6 Quote
Buffalo Boy Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Which, goes to my point in the other thread. Josh is the reason McD’s one score game percentage is even above 50%. He IS the reason these guys look competent. 5 15 1 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted February 16 Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, finn said: This with a single top receiver--and even he dropped off a cliff midseason. Screw the defense. Give this man three top receivers, good protection, and a run game, and he will score 75 points a game. Agree...McD has shown the ability to do more with less on D up until the postseason and then it never seems to matter how good they are, they always crap the bed against quality offenses. Allen needs weapons so the games don't have to be so close in those situations. 6 3 1 Quote
Bob Jones Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Just stop. Did not even make it to the AFCCG. Stats like this mean squat. Just win, baby. 3 11 11 8 1 1 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Just stop. Did not even make it to the AFCCG. Stats like this mean squat. Just win, baby. Last time I checked, football is a team sport. 8 3 5 Quote
Bob Jones Posted February 16 Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Last time I checked, football is a team sport. But in the NFL, QB is BY FAR the most important position, and that one player can make WORLDS of difference. See Tom Brady with the Bucaneers, for example. 1 1 4 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Just now, Bob Jones said: But in the NFL, QB is BY FAR the most important position, and that one player can make WORLDS of difference. See Tom Brady with the Bucaneers, for example. Yes...to a point. The Bucs had an elite defense. A great WR1 & great WR2 2 1 1 Quote
DJB Posted February 16 Author Posted February 16 (edited) This tells me that Josh doesn’t have a weak mental capacity when the game is on the line like some have suggested. And that he is performing with little around him on offense and that McD and the D is truly responsible for the losses Edited February 16 by DJB 8 1 Quote
vtnatefootball11 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 16 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Just stop. Did not even make it to the AFCCG. Stats like this mean squat. Just win, baby. That sure as heck wasn't Allen's fault! We wouldn't even be a .500 team without him. 2 3 Quote
CincyBillsFan Posted February 16 Posted February 16 21 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Just stop. Did not even make it to the AFCCG. Stats like this mean squat. Just win, baby. Where stats do matter is when you're trying to determine where you are falling short and how you get over the hump to "just win, baby". And Allen's stats are a reminder that he is the Bills best player. Stats also provide compelling evidence to disprove the morons constantly claiming that "Allen has to do more". 13 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: But in the NFL, QB is BY FAR the most important position, and that one player can make WORLDS of difference. See Tom Brady with the Bucaneers, for example. And in the NFL a single player, even a HOF QB considered by almost everyone to be among the best to ever play the position, is not enough. Just ask Dan Marino. 5 Quote
Bob Jones Posted February 16 Posted February 16 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Yes...to a point. The Bucs had an elite defense. A great WR1 & great WR2 The Bucs season we're talking about was in 2020. From Wiki: The Buccaneers defense, somewhat maligned over the previous several seasons, improved in several categories. In total yards allowed, they improved from 15th in the league the previous season to 6th. In 2017 they had ranked last. In passing yards allowed, they improved from 30th in 2019 to 21st. In total points allowed, they improved from 29th in 2019 to 8th. They also flipped the turnover margin from –13 in 2019 to +8 in 2020.[10] Several franchise records were set during the regular season. Tom Brady threw a Buccaneers record 40 touchdown passes, while Mike Evans had a record 13 receiving touchdowns. Evans became the first wide receiver in NFL history with 1,000+ yards receiving in each of his first seven seasons. Brady posted the best season passer rating (102.2) in team history, and also tallied the most games with four or more touchdown passes (4). The team set a new high for most points scored (492) and most total touchdowns (59). Their success was mostly due to Brady and the offense. Without Brady being an absolute clutch QB, they don’t win that Lombardi trophy. 2 Quote
Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin Posted February 16 Posted February 16 19 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: The Bucs had an elite defense. They had an elite everything. O line, RBs, WRs. Brady didn't even have to do too much there. IMO in hindsight it was a no brainer of a move, unlike Rodgers going to the jets at 40 with a Swiss cheese o line 1 Quote
nucci Posted February 16 Posted February 16 why the numerous threads about how great Allen is? We already know this. 1 1 Quote
warrior9 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 41 minutes ago, Bogie_Klinkhammer said: Where is my Lombardi ? Go ask McDermott 1 Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 16 Posted February 16 11 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: The Bucs season we're talking about was in 2020. From Wiki: The Buccaneers defense, somewhat maligned over the previous several seasons, improved in several categories. In total yards allowed, they improved from 15th in the league the previous season to 6th. In 2017 they had ranked last. In passing yards allowed, they improved from 30th in 2019 to 21st. In total points allowed, they improved from 29th in 2019 to 8th. They also flipped the turnover margin from –13 in 2019 to +8 in 2020.[10] Several franchise records were set during the regular season. Tom Brady threw a Buccaneers record 40 touchdown passes, while Mike Evans had a record 13 receiving touchdowns. Evans became the first wide receiver in NFL history with 1,000+ yards receiving in each of his first seven seasons. Brady posted the best season passer rating (102.2) in team history, and also tallied the most games with four or more touchdown passes (4). The team set a new high for most points scored (492) and most total touchdowns (59). Their success was mostly due to Brady and the offense. Without Brady being an absolute clutch QB, they don’t win that Lombardi trophy. Did you even watch the Bucs in the playoffs for their superbowl run? Brady was mediocre and did not have to be clutch in any of the games. 2 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Pure drivel. Who cares where his nugget is on some useless graph. Yes, Josh is good. We get that. But without a strong D we are going nowhere. And, to you nimrods saying "seeee, look. Give him a WR and we are SB champs". This graph proves that we don't need a receiver. He is alreday clutch and we score. It's the D that craps the bed and can't stop anyone when it counts. Injuries, yes granted. But c'mon. Fix the D next season and we are lethal! 2 2 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Now we just need the rest of the team and coaching staff to be even half as clutch as him and we'll have something. 3 1 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 16 Posted February 16 He’s the best in the league and we all know it. Needed to make one more throw and not rely on the field goal. It wouldn’t have mattered anyway with that defense out there crippled. 6 Quote
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