Brady driven to greatness by trying to win Belichick's approval?

[HardyBoy]

7 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

and you made millions of dollars, won multiple Super Bowls, and are viewed as some of the best players and best teams to ever suit up

 

Sorry it wasn't more "fun"

 

 

 

Lol, post meets handle!

[GETTOTHE50]

I hope they both burn in hell 

[Ponch]

11 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

in the end, it worked

 

Peyton Manning had mediocre to poor coaches most of his career. Nice guys, though. 

 

The whole Belichick as Darth Vader in a hoodie, devoid of compassion or joy, existing solely to destroy souls and win Super Bowls, is pretty much spot on. 

 

Brady himself talks about how in his 20's he was more like a typical NFL player... in great shape, yes, but actually enjoyed life a bit. Burgers and beers after games. Like a human being. 

 

If he had one of the "aww shucks" good ole ball coaches maybe he never even wins 1 ring. 

 

 

Did it? 

[Thurman#1]

9 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

If Buffalo regresses, this year, we should ABSOLUTELY do it. We're the perfect team for his no bull####, insane work ethic approach. Dawkins would finally show up to camp in shape, Josh and WRs wouldn't be having miscommunications about where they thought the ball should be, every player would know every nuance of the rules, our clock management would be the best in the business, alignments and formations would be locked down.

Saying he's only been good with Brady as his QB is a cop out and wrong. He dragged Matt Cassel to 11-5. Jimmy G went 2-0, Jacoby Brisett 1-1. The problem is that every other QB he had in his coaching career (besides Bledsoe) was an unmitigated dumpster fire. Give him Kirk Cousins the last couple years and they're a perennial playoff team.

 

 

He dragged Cassel to 11-5 with one of the easiest schedules in history. Even the Fins went 11-5 in the AFC East that year with the easy slate the division faced, when they were 1-15 the year before and 7-9 the year after.

 

In that 11-5 year, the Pats beat three teams with winning records, and two of those were in the division facing the same easy schedule, the Fins, the 9-7 Jets, and the 9-7 Cards.

 

And Kosar was no dumpster fire. He was a pretty solid QB. Garoppolo too. Neither has been really really good but both good.

 

MacCorkle too, really. If he's a dumpster fire, Belichick gets a great deal of the blame. As a rookie, MacCorkle looked really promising. After that, Belichick gave him an OC with a defensive background.

 

 

Edited February 17 by Thurman#1

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

MacCorkle too, really. If he's a dumpster fire, Belichick gets a great deal of the blame. As a rookie, MacCorkle looked really promising. After that, Belichick gave him an OC with a defensive background.

 

 

Remember he is GOAT Cheating General Manager and Head Coach whose owner would not let him make decision on which QB to trade and which one to keep!

How many QBs from Alabama Crimson Tide has he ruined?  We have a Crimson Tide expert on this board and he should know.  @Bill Belicheat?  Tua fortunately was thought of being too weak to play for Beli-CHEAT and was spared his treatment.

 

 

[CheshireCT]

21 hours ago, boyst said:

the activities that fly for jobs like most of us have do not work.

if they treated these nfl players like most people in the office they'd be underwhelming like most people in average office spaces.

if anything, the nfl guys are more like stock brokers or real estate.

 

the jobs are not fun, high pressure, highly competitive, and fueled by more than just money.

What you’re saying is 100% true. However there’s more nuance than that. 
 

You can still hold people accountable, help them to hold themselves accountable, and work intensely and focused in a positive environment. When you’re working with highly competitive people, they’re already criticizing themselves to an extreme and don’t need additional people around them making them feel awful about themselves.

We know more about psychology now than we did 20 years ago even, which is why things stopped working in New England. We know that poor mental health and fear tactics are not necessary for high performance. There are better ways to do it, and no one is going along with the “Patriot way” anymore.

[Simon]

 

Does he cry at the end of this one too?

[TheFunPolice]

On 2/16/2024 at 11:01 PM, Ponch said:

Did it? 

 

6 Super Bowl titles and 9 Super Bowl appearances. Yeah, I would say it worked. 

[uticaclub]

Who cares? I’d rather have an ####### that everyone hates who gets the job done than a nice guy that everyone likes who doesn’t.

Edited February 18 by uticaclub

[BullBuchanan]

On 2/16/2024 at 11:38 PM, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

He dragged Cassel to 11-5 with one of the easiest schedules in history. Even the Fins went 11-5 in the AFC East that year with the easy slate the division faced, when they were 1-15 the year before and 7-9 the year after.

 

In that 11-5 year, the Pats beat three teams with winning records, and two of those were in the division facing the same easy schedule, the Fins, the 9-7 Jets, and the 9-7 Cards.

 

And Kosar was no dumpster fire. He was a pretty solid QB. Garoppolo too. Neither has been really really good but both good.

 

MacCorkle too, really. If he's a dumpster fire, Belichick gets a great deal of the blame. As a rookie, MacCorkle looked really promising. After that, Belichick gave him an OC with a defensive background.

 

 

Garoppolo  went 2-0 under BB as I said. Kosar played one full year under BB and was washed up.