How did we not win a superbowl?

[H2o]

2 hours ago, BuffaL0L0k0 said:

H2o, although I agree with the essence of your argument the way you outlined it, I found an inaccurate fact in your statement of "all three times...", given that after '13 seconds', KCY fell to CIN in the AFCChG... the other two (2020 ad 2023) they did avance to the SB, however, when they did in 2020, they LOST to TBY, and this comes to my mind because I had previously thought that, whenever they beat us, in playoffs before, they lost the "next game", and that would become a curse, for this SB58 only that this time...the spell was broken...and they won in a Hollywood-esque mode... 

Correct you are my friend. They did lose to Cincy that following week. 

[90sBills]

53 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So if you know that, and I know that, and everyone knows that, can you explain why our coaching staff goes for the deep ball to Shakir instead of methodically controlling the ball, taking four downs to pick up 10.1 yards and keeping your undermanned defense on the bench? It’s still a real head scratcher to me. The Bills worked the ENTIRE season to be right they were late in the fourth quarter, at home, in the playoffs, against the Chiefs…and then….you know the rest. 

Coaching staff didn’t make that throw. Allen did. He needs to raise his game awareness. A TD there and it’s inevitable that Mahomes drives down for a winning TD. Take the 1st with Diggs and drain all the clock.

[Jauronimo]

14 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:

Very few teams who lose in the divisional round go on to win the super bowl.  By my estimation less than 5 teams have accomplished such a feat.

[Augie]

3 hours ago, ganesh said:

Did the Chiefs have the extra gear or did our Offense and Defense blow it on our final drives?

 

The defense was playing with a guy at LB who had packed his RV and was on his way to the Keys. When you’re down your top 4 LB’s and a few DB’s, things can wear thin. I’m not making excuses, it just is what is it, and I recognize that. I’m not distraught, but I am disappointed. 

[Augie]

4 hours ago, LarryMadman said:

Didn't know that happened in 2020, 2021, and 2022 also. 

 

 

 

This year was some DB’s but mostly our top 4 LB’s causing us to reach out to a traffic cone like Klein.  Last year was an amazing string of injuries to DB’s. Like, pretty much all the DB’s. The 13 second year, well, as tired as I get hearing about it, they effed that up. Plain and simple. My life goes on.  I don’t recall the details of the other year, but the teams in the playoffs are, in theory, the best teams. Sometimes you lose.  🤷‍♂️

[SoCal Deek]

54 minutes ago, transient said:

Personally, I think they started that drive thinking they’d need to score twice more to win. Eating 8+ minutes of clock is a lot to ask. I think the 60 yd bomb to Diggs was meant as a quick strike to allow them time after KC scored on them. When they got down to 2 minutes they were kind of in no man’s land. That’s why I think they went for the TD to Shakir when they did. Then a FG doesn’t beat you and MAYBE there’s time left after if (when) KC scores… and maybe, however unlikely, McDermott coaches his ass of on defense for 1 drive and they cook up something unexpected to get THE stop. 

And it was yet another late game strategic blunder. You’re absolutely correct on the deep pass to Diggs. Once that didn’t work they needed to simply keep the ball. They have the ideal QB to do just that. Pick up eight yards on downs 1 through 3 and let him sneak the final six feet. But do NOT put your depleted defense back on the field. 

19 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Coaching staff didn’t make that throw. Allen did. He needs to raise his game awareness. A TD there and it’s inevitable that Mahomes drives down for a winning TD. Take the 1st with Diggs and drain all the clock.

You may be right. I sure hope not, for our sakes. 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

8 hours ago, zow2 said:

Unfortunately Mahomes/Reid rewrote the legacy’s of Allen/McDermott.

I hate to say it, but I think the Bills win it all the year Mahomes has a season ending injury. 

[longtimebillsfan]

As much as some want to blame McDermott, it is Mahomes and Reid.

 

The Bills have given them all they can handle in the playoffs but have come up short.

 

I have to believe that the breaks will eventually fall our way and we will reach a super Bowl with Josh.

 

No one is talking about this, but I expect we will have a "readjustment" year in 2024 like 2018 to get the salary cap under control.

 

 

[zow2]

Mahomes takes the layups.  He takes the easy throw when it's there.  Only one pass greater than 20 yards in the Super Bowl.  He limits mistakes.  Couple that with a defense that keeps them in the game when the offense is struggling, that is a SB team.

Obviously Mahomes can be great when he needs to be late in games.

 

Josh has been good to very good in his playoff career.  Just need a defense to compliment him...when the O goes into a dry spell for a few series.

[Fr. Jerk]

[ExiledInIllinois]

30 minutes ago, Fr. Jerk said:

Yeah, I dig! 

[BananaB]

McDermott 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

How did the Ravens not win?
Listening to the talking heads, they have the greatest Coach and QB ever.

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Nah.

 

The DL was indeed a problem. Von simply wasn't himself after the injury. Same with DaQuan. Floyd, who's been great, was either injured or had dead legs the last few games. He wasn't himself either. Rousseau's been a damn good pick. Epenesa was solid too. Not Basham so far, that's for sure. But they've had good and bad picks. You're unlikely to get elite pass rushers when you're picking in the late 20s. It happens, but not all that often.

 

And if your DL is under-manned, you'd better be healthy and have your LBs all ready to ... oops. Both starters couldn't go a single snap because of injuries.

 

And it's not that Reid knows how to attack him. If he did, they'd have killed the Bills in the first half. That's not what happened. They adapted, figured out where the weak injury replacements were and still didn't run away with it.

 

And they haven't made bad picks in the secondary. One that looks bad so far, though it's too early to say so far. Several excellent. Dane Jackson in the 7th was really good, Benford in the 6th was a terrific bargain (his injury hurt a ton).

 

This was a defense that was gutted with injuries.

Injuries or not this DL just doesn't have studs, just JAGS outside of Oliver.  We need DE's that can get to the QB.

[loyal2dagame]

I fact checked some things about how we did not win a Super Bowl and have concluded the following: 

 

You indeed cannot win a Super Bowl  without making it to a Super Bowl.

 

[Logic]

The Bills have had the misfortune of getting really good at the same time that the Chiefs got really good.

The only difference is that the Chiefs have one of the five best head coaches in NFL history and arguably the best quarterback on planet earth. The Bills' head coach, while good, is not at Andy Reid's level. The Bills' quarterback, while elite, is not quite at Mahomes' level (I know, I know. But look at the All-Pros, the MVP, the Lombardis, the SBMVP. What else can one reasonably conclude?).

It's like when Peyton Manning's Colts got really good at the same time as Brady and Belichick's Pats. As much dominance as they had in the regular season, it never meant much come playoff time. Eventually, the Colts broke through, started making the matchups with the Pats a pretty even affair and a true rivalry, and wound up winning a championship. I tend to think that if the Bills win a title with Allen, it'll be the same kind of thing. A situation where they get hot at the right time, get the better of Mahomes or Burrow in a playoff matchup, and ride their momentum to a Lombardi.

I hate to say it, but we as Bills fans watched a new dynasty begin in the AFC just as the old one ended. I don't think the Chiefs are going anywhere any time soon, and until the Bills start beating them in the playoffs, a championship will continue to elude them.

Edited February 15 by Logic

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

I hate to say it, but I think the Bills win it all the year Mahomes has a season ending injury. 

[BringBackFlutie]

17 minutes ago, Logic said:

The Bills have had the misfortune of getting really good at the same time that the Chiefs got really good.

The only difference is that the Chiefs have one of the five best head coaches in NFL history and arguably the best quarterback on planet earth. The Bills' head coach, while good, is not at Andy Reid's level. The Bills' quarterback, while elite, is not quite at Mahomes' level (I know, I know. But look at the All-Pros, the MVP, the Lombardis, the SBMVP. What else can one reasonably conclude?).

It's like when Peyton Manning's Colts got really good at the same time as Brady and Belichick's Pats. As much dominance as they had in the regular season, it never meant much come playoff time. Eventually, the Colts broke through, started making the matchups with the Pats a pretty even affair and a true rivalry, and wound up winning a championship. I tend to think that if the Bills win a title with Allen, it'll be the same kind of thing. A situation where they get hot at the right time, get the better of Mahomes or Burrow in a playoff matchup, and ride their momentum to a Lombardi.

I hate to say it, but we as Bills fans watched a new dynasty begin in the AFC just as the old one ended. I don't think the Chiefs are going anywhere any time soon, and until the Bills start beating them in the playoffs, a championship will continue to elude them.

 

That you know about as much about QBs as Jon Snow. 

 

...and don't get me started on your shark knowledge. 

[Logic]

4 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said:

 

That you know about as much about QBs as Jon Snow. 

 

...and don't get me started on your shark knowledge. 

[BringBackFlutie]

5 minutes ago, Logic said:

 

 

...but who's gonna hold my spitter?