st pete gogolak Posted February 14 Posted February 14 I know I shouldn’t get upset by this stuff but Get Up had a segment this morning: which QB will win their first Super Bowl next? Greenberg had his five ranked (5) Herbert; (4) Jackson; (3) Burrow; (2) Purdy; and (1) Love. Why NFC QB’s # 1 and 2? AFC QB’s can’t get by Mahones, maybe an NFC QB will get there and then luck out to a win. The three other panelists had Burrow as their pick. Why? Only Burrow has the mental strength to look across the field at Mahones and say to himself, “ I’m going to win this game”. Paraphrasing but you get the point. How about Allen? This year was his best chance and he couldn’t get it done (said the same about Jackson). Honestly, I’m thinking of switching to being a fan of the Premier League for a couple of years. This stuff is going to be unbearable.8 1 4 Quote
GoBills808 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 i get the rationale behind not listing Allen tbh look at his playoff stats. He literally can't do any better and the Bills haven't even come close 3 1 4 2 Quote
julian Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: i get the rationale behind not listing Allen tbh look at his playoff stats. He literally can't do any better and the Bills haven't even come close I’d consider making the AFC title game coming close, but I understand your point. 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted February 15 Posted February 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, GoBills808 said: i get the rationale behind not listing Allen tbh look at his playoff stats. He literally can't do any better and the Bills haven't even come close I mean, I don’t put things on Josh. But at the end of the day we had the ball last against a team and player that is viewed as the best and we didn’t score a TD. We can go on all day about how others haven’t scored TD’s, others had FG kickers hit the FG, but we needed that drive. You expect the best in NFL history to get that drive. So I don’t think I’m going to say he can’t do any better. I would hope most on here would want and expect him to close that one out. If we say in future we have the ball last, down 3, vs the very best, most teams will say sure and will acknowledge they have to score or they just aren’t the team. Edited February 15 by Mikie2times 2 2 Quote
K D Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Herbert lol!! Nobody should take these shows seriously. They always say crazy things to try and get attention 3 Quote
GoBills808 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: I mean, I don’t put things on Josh. But at the end of the day we had the ball last against a team and player that is viewed as the best and we didn’t score a TD. We can go on all day about how others haven’t scored TD’s, others had FG kickers hit the FG, but we needed that drive. You expect the best in NFL history to get that drive. So I don’t think I’m going to say he can’t do any better. I would hope most on here would want and expect him to close that one out. If we say in future we have the ball last, down 3, vs the very best, most teams will say sure and will acknowledge they have to score or they just aren’t the team. We didn't have the ball last, KC ran the clock out on us Just like we didn't have the ball the last 13seconds of the previous playoff game Allen would have won If your expectations are that he also call the defense and kick the FGs then sure he could do more 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted February 15 Posted February 15 14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: We didn't have the ball last, KC ran the clock out on us Just like we didn't have the ball the last 13seconds of the previous playoff game Allen would have won If your expectations are that he also call the defense and kick the FGs then sure he could do more I’m not talking about 13 seconds. He most certainly did anything a player could do in that game. I’m talking about the playoff game against KC. Any hall of fame QB in history will take the ball in that situation. So when you say he did all he could do, sorry but he needs to score on that drive. He had the chances. In addition to nearly not having a chance with the fumble. I don’t expect you to agree. That’s fine. 1 Quote
SirAndrew Posted February 15 Posted February 15 I don’t even want to discuss Allen in this post, because these talking heads are a joke, but some of the other QB’s listed are ridiculous. Jackson can barely move his offense in the playoffs, and Love was a mediocre QB in GB until late in the season. I know a lot of people like Jordan Love, but I’m not convinced he doesn’t regress next season. I don’t think we’re seeing a genuinely great QB. His game has a lot of weaknesses, and LaFleur’s system helps him a lot. Love can make all the throws, but he’s wildly inconsistent, and not in a Josh Allen way. Quote
zow2 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 I think it could be Burrow’s year this upcoming season. Assuming he’s healthy, they still have a really good team. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 15 Posted February 15 I would rank NFC guys first too. But of the AFC guys I still think it is Josh Allen. 1 5 Quote
Lost Posted February 15 Posted February 15 This is easy. List of QBs that have 3 or more wins vs. Pat Mahomes era Chiefs 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Burrow 3. Josh Allen Brady is retired, Burrow has trouble staying healthy so next up has to be Josh Allen. 2 Quote
The Jokeman Posted February 15 Posted February 15 15 hours ago, st pete gogolak said: I know I shouldn’t get upset by this stuff but Get Up had a segment this morning: which QB will win their first Super Bowl next? Greenberg had his five ranked (5) Herbert; (4) Jackson; (3) Burrow; (2) Purdy; and (1) Love. Why NFC QB’s # 1 and 2? AFC QB’s can’t get by Mahones, maybe an NFC QB will get there and then luck out to a win. The three other panelists had Burrow as their pick. Why? Only Burrow has the mental strength to look across the field at Mahones and say to himself, “ I’m going to win this game”. Paraphrasing but you get the point. How about Allen? This year was his best chance and he couldn’t get it done (said the same about Jackson). Honestly, I’m thinking of switching to being a fan of the Premier League for a couple of years. This stuff is going to be unbearable.8 Lamar over Allen is a laugh. Yes, Baltimore might be a better team but until they get a better QB they aren't going anywhere. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted February 15 Posted February 15 In the next year or two I would say Burrow. Bengals have a very good team and they have proven they can beat KC in the playoffs. A few years from now it will be Herbert. Harbaugh knows how to win. He will do a good job there. As for Allen, I don't see it happening with McDermott. 3 1 Quote
Chaos Posted February 15 Posted February 15 8 hours ago, 90sBills said: Herbert but not Allen? Crazy talk. In realty he means Harbaugh/Hebert rather than McDermott/Allen 50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I would rank NFC guys first too. But of the AFC guys I still think it is Josh Allen. percentage wise I rank Allen’s chances above all of the others. But against the field of all the other AFC teams the Bills probably are not greater than 50% likely to be the breakthrough team. Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 15 Posted February 15 8 hours ago, 90sBills said: Herbert but not Allen? Crazy talk. Welcome to the off-season hype machine. Last year was the Jets. This year with Harbaugh going to the Chargers it will be them. And that will all be based off the almost certainty from the media that Harbaugh will "fix" Herbert. One thing that's constant in football is that Chargers will find a way to Charger. 1 Quote
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