Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Too bad we can't fire our DC again this year. 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, BillsWest said: Per ProFootball Rumors, the 49ers have fired Steve Wilks DC. I guess KC will do that to you! I think the final outcome would have been different if Dre Greenlaw doesn't tear his achilles. they could have had Vince lombardi Coaching and Lawrence Taylor on the edge, and Mahomes would have still shredded them in the clutch! Quote
CaptnCoke11 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Doesn’t he have ties to McDermott? Get him on staff here in some capacity Quote
jkeerie Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: Another example that the Mcd philosophy schemes doesn't work ! According to Shanahan's presser, the problem was Wilks was working with the SF defensive scheme previously run by Salah and DeMeco Ryans. Wilks...not coming from that system...was not as successful. There was a disconnect. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 15 Posted February 15 7 hours ago, wppete said: I didn't think that was a bad call. The DBs were poised to jump wherever Mahomes decided to go with the ball and the ball would have had to come out quick. Quote
stevestojan Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Wait, the game that they lost was the Super Bowl, correct? Meaning they made it to the Super Bowl. There has to be something other than his job performance that led to this, no? Or am I just so used to simply accepting performance that is mildly above mediocre? 1 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted February 15 Posted February 15 8 hours ago, BillsWest said: Per ProFootball Rumors, the 49ers have fired Steve Wilks DC. I guess KC will do that to you! I think the final outcome would have been different if Dre Greenlaw doesn't tear his achilles. That and the punt hitting that dude in the foot. Crazy bad luck honestly. 1 Quote
The Helmet of Posted February 15 Posted February 15 SF's D was ranked 8th in the league (in yards allowed) and played well enough to win the SB. Folded late. Wilks gets the axe. Buffalo's D was ranked 9th . . . and also folded late. More of the same on the horizon . . . It's up to the D to figure out a way to stop Andy Reid. What's going to change? 1 Quote
The Helmet of Posted February 15 Posted February 15 9 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Imagine getting fired after holding KC to 19 points in regulation (7 off a special teams turnover) while forcing 5 punts and 2 turnovers. That's light years better than any Bills DEF performance against the Chiefs in the playoffs. I guess Shanahan wants to be seen as going balls to the wall to improve . . . When it matters most . . . that's when the D needs to shine the most. I guess that's what KS is thinking . . . Maybe he is looking at the total body of work. He wants to be top 3, not top 10. Can't say I disagree, but it still seems like a tough deal for the D coordinator since there were mistakes all around in the game. The overall game plan worked well. It took time for Reid to adjust . . . but when they adjusted, everything was clicking . . . Is there a D in the league who can shut Andy Reid down for five straight quarters??? Quote
John from Riverside Posted February 15 Posted February 15 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Too bad we can't fire our DC again this year. Why not? 37 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: SF's D was ranked 8th in the league (in yards allowed) and played well enough to win the SB. Folded late. Wilks gets the axe. Buffalo's D was ranked 9th . . . and also folded late. More of the same on the horizon . . . It's up to the D to figure out a way to stop Andy Reid. What's going to change? We literally hired a defensive coordinator Babich has been good Quote
The Helmet of Posted February 15 Posted February 15 17 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why not? We literally hired a defensive coordinator Babich has been good He's been a good LB coach. We don't know how he will do in his new role. 2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: I didn't think that was a bad call. The DBs were poised to jump wherever Mahomes decided to go with the ball and the ball would have had to come out quick. I don't know enough about X and O to decide if it was a good call or not. Romo didn't say whether he agreed with KS or not. He simply said that this was what KS was probably thinking. Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Always thought it was a strange hire as Wilks didn't have experience with the Seattle cover 3 system that Saleh and Ryans ran that matched their personnel well. Thought he would promote from within like he did Ryans. I thought there might be trouble when Shanahan forced Wilks to move from the booth to the field. Usually a coordinator makes that decision on his own. The optics for Shanahan look bad immediately following a Super Bowl loss but you could say the same about McDermott firing Dorsey (or Frazier). Doesn't mean it was the wrong decision and there's never really never a good time to do it. Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 15 Posted February 15 17 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Always thought it was a strange hire as Wilks didn't have experience with the Seattle cover 3 system that Saleh and Ryans ran that matched their personnel well. Thought he would promote from within like he did Ryans. I thought there might be trouble when Shanahan forced Wilks to move from the booth to the field. Usually a coordinator makes that decision on his own. The optics for Shanahan look bad immediately following a Super Bowl loss but you could say the same about McDermott firing Dorsey (or Frazier). Doesn't mean it was the wrong decision and there's never really never a good time to do it. He worked under McDermott who ran the cover 3 (although slightly different variant of it) in Carolina. But agree when he has run defenses as a coordinator he has been a nickel base, blitz heavy guy. Which isn't really what the 49ers have run previously. Quote
BBFL Posted February 15 Posted February 15 12 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: Whatever he had Bosa doing a majority of the game just chasing Pacheco across the field and giving Mahomes huge running lanes was idiotic. Might’ve worked in 1st half but backfired in the 2nd half effectively taking away bosa’s pass rush ability. Watch that final drive in OT… Focus solely on Bosa, now while that may have been Wilks’ scheme, it changed from how he was attacking and playing the edge from the rest of the game. How the highest paid defender in history is not having questions asked about the play there is peculiar… Nick did all the wrong things and played like a journeyman in the league. Quote
Man with No Name Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Shanahan is an all time choker. im sure he has hands all over whatever the defensive scheme was for the second half, and all crucial plays towards the end. he is a classic micro manager. Quote
John from Riverside Posted February 15 Posted February 15 3 hours ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said: He's been a good LB coach. We don't know how he will do in his new role. I don't know enough about X and O to decide if it was a good call or not. Romo didn't say whether he agreed with KS or not. He simply said that this was what KS was probably thinking. You’re right we have no way of knowing whether Babich is going to be a good defensive coordinator. We only know that he’s been good at every position defensive coaching position he has ever had. It’s a gamble Quote
PBF81 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 15 hours ago, Logic said: Given his connections to Sean McDermott and the fact that he was unable to stop the Kansas City Chiefs in the biggest game of the year, he feels like a perfect fit for the Bills. My first thought was well. That "talent" pool has dried up tho. Wilks would have to turn the lights out on the way out. Quote
Billsatlastin2018 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 17 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: I never would have realized that unless Romo mentioned it. Very good observation by romo The best there is! The uneducated hoi polloi rubes growled to CBS to attempt to shut Romo up, from making observations just like that! 10 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: they could have had Vince lombardi Coaching and Lawrence Taylor on the edge, and Mahomes would have still shredded them in the clutch! There is something to this. 2 Quote
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