Bills official offseason Cap moves thread.

[SoonerBillsFan]

Exactly 4 weeks from today, March 13th, Free agency starts and the Bills have to be under the cap. I thought I would start an official cap moves thread so we can put all the moves in one thread. 

 

Things should start heating up to get under the cap pretty quickly.

[LabattBlue]

What makes this an “official” thread? 😂

[frostbitmic]

Where is the team sitting in regards to the cap with players who are signed for 2024 ?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, frostbitmic said:

Where is the team sitting in regards to the cap with players who are signed for 2024 ?

Simple answer is they are about $25 million under the cap with some simple non drastic moves.

[MR8]

3 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Where is the team sitting in regards to the cap with players who are signed for 2024 ?

They're $51M over as of now.  Lots of moves to work on that but as of now they're 2nd worst in cap space in th NFL, actually virtually tied with Miami. 

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

What makes this an “official” thread? 😂

The fancy letter head on the paper it is typed on, 

[78thealltimegreat]

Well Josh’s restructure clears down the overcap charges by something like 27 million. 
Extending Rasul Douglas also clear up a nice bit of cap Space too.

So there’s two things I know will happen as Deon Dawkins is just about do for a restructure as well.

The toughest move to me will be what the Bills do with Mitch Morse who has been Josh’s guy at center for 5 years. 

[Billl]

26 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Well Josh’s restructure clears down the overcap charges by something like 27 million. 
Extending Rasul Douglas also clear up a nice bit of cap Space too.

So there’s two things I know will happen as Deon Dawkins is just about do for a restructure as well.

The toughest move to me will be what the Bills do with Mitch Morse who has been Josh’s guy at center for 5 years. 

What kind of extension would you give Douglas?  He’ll be 30 when the season starts.

[TheBeaneBandit]

3 minutes ago, Billl said:

What kind of extension would you give Douglas?  He’ll be 30 when the season starts.

2 to 3 years with the understanding that a move to safety could be on the table.

[juno999]

45 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

Well Josh’s restructure clears down the overcap charges by something like 27 million. 
Extending Rasul Douglas also clear up a nice bit of cap Space too.

So there’s two things I know will happen as Deon Dawkins is just about do for a restructure as well.

The toughest move to me will be what the Bills do with Mitch Morse who has been Josh’s guy at center for 5 years. 

Dawkins has one year left on current deal.  So does Taron Johnson.  I believe they'll both get extensions this off-season to reduce cap hit this year.  Restructure possibilities are McGovern, Allen, and Milano.  As of now Hines is scheduled for $5.4M.  I think they'll redo that contract or cut him.  Not sure what they'll do with Tre White.

[Matt_In_NH]

I hate officials.  

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

What makes this an “official” thread? 😂

Because I put official in the title 😁

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Josh Allen, Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox, Matt Milano, and Conor McGovern restructuring opens quite a bit of cap space. 
 

As mentioned, Dion Dawkins, Taron Johnson and Rasule Douglas extensions make sense. 
 

I have no doubt Tre White takes a pay cut to help the team, maybe they add a year to his deal to spread it out. 
 

Deonte Hardy is a cut candidate, but I can see him taking a pay cut as well. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Josh Allen, Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox, Matt Milano, and Conor McGovern restructuring opens quite a bit of cap space. 
 

As mentioned, Dion Dawkins, Taron Johnson and Rasule Douglas extensions make sense. 
 

I have no doubt Tre White takes a pay cut to help the team, maybe they add a year to his deal to spread it out. 
 

Deonte Hardy is a cut candidate, but I can see him taking a pay cut as well. 

I don't see tre being here. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Just cut a bunch of people and start over.

[BarleyNY]

https://overthecap.com/calculator/buffalo-bills

 

OTC’s calculator is a good tool to look at options for getting under the cap. While it’s not going to be fun, the Bills are going to be able to get under. They also will be able to get out from under some big contracts if they feel they need to. 

[gonzo1105]

1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Josh Allen, Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox, Matt Milano, and Conor McGovern restructuring opens quite a bit of cap space. 
 

As mentioned, Dion Dawkins, Taron Johnson and Rasule Douglas extensions make sense. 
 

I have no doubt Tre White takes a pay cut to help the team, maybe they add a year to his deal to spread it out. 
 

Deonte Hardy is a cut candidate, but I can see him taking a pay cut as well. 

 

Why would you add a year to a guy who has had two pretty catastrophic injuries to a DB. It either you take a significant pay cut or your gone. Its as simple as that.

[In Summary]

8 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

What makes this an “official” thread? 😂

This

[BillsFanForever19]

On 2/14/2024 at 7:51 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Josh Allen, Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox, Matt Milano, and Conor McGovern restructuring opens quite a bit of cap space. 
 

As mentioned, Dion Dawkins, Taron Johnson and Rasule Douglas extensions make sense. 
 

I have no doubt Tre White takes a pay cut to help the team, maybe they add a year to his deal to spread it out. 
 

Deonte Hardy is a cut candidate, but I can see him taking a pay cut as well. 

 

I keep seeing "pay cut" or restructure for Tre White. 

 

Do you have any idea the kind of pay cut he would have to take for keeping him to make sense? It would be an insulting amount.

 

We're talking about a guy that if he were on the market now would have to take an incentive laden prove it deal. He never returned to consistent form from his ACL and then tore an Achilles.

 

His role would be a guy coming off the bench and mixing in, hoping he can get back up to speed. He's on a 16.44m cap hit this season and a 16.67m cap hit next season for that role. And unlike some other players that we can't get out from under right now, Tre White's out in that massive contract is THIS offseason.

 

When we gave up a 3rd for Douglas, it was pretty clear to me then that he wasn't only the Tre White replacement for just last year. In Douglas, Benford, Johnson, and Elam - we have our 3 starters and a 1st Round Pick coming off the bench in relief.

 

Douglas and Johnson will be extended and Benford has been getting better and better. He's the present and the future of the CB position and you don't want to mess with that development.

 

I just don't see a restructure or pay cut that makes sense for both sides. Save for White being okay with going from one of the top paid CB's in Football to being paid reserve money. We're not going to extend Douglas to put him on the bench and we're not going to stunt Benford's development by sticking him on the bench either. And we don't want that much money tied up into the CB position, especially for the role he'd have and being at best, a MASSIVE question mark.

 

In the position we're in, we have to come up with cap space anywhere we can. There's only a handful of players who have outs in their deals this offseason. Tre is the easiest decision amongst them, if you remove emotion from the equation.

 

We're set at CB without him. His replacement is already in house. The only reason to not move on is it would be sad to and fans are in their feels about it. And that's simply not a valid reason when it comes to Business.

Edited February 16 by BillsFanForever19

[hondo in seattle]

This is a depressing thread.  The Bills need to get better to win the Lombardi.  Whenever I read about this year's cap, I can't help but feel we're going to get worse.

 

Restructuring might buy us some relief.  But that's just kicking the can down the road making future years difficult too.   I like the team Beane has built for the most part, but I don't like where he's put us with the cap.