Does this team actually have the guts to move on from Tre White?

[Fr. Jerk]

Everyday is Tre day, ya dig?

[MPL]

There is way too much talk about ass cutting in this thread for a Tuesday morning. 

[T master]

He's not going to get paid by this or any other team given the last 3 seasons that would be foolish for any team to pay him as the player he was before the injuries . If i was Beane i would give him a prove it deal (Maybe) but not at corner maybe safety & then i'd have to think about it .

 

I hate that Tre has been dealt the hand he has been but he has,  Beane will do what ever is in the best interest of the team both from a business stand point & the player . We all know Tre has the heart but physically can he come back, only time will tell there have been others that this type of thing has ended their careers .

 

I think all of Bills mafia were hoping Tre would be a cornerstone of this team for many years but right now none of us not even Beane or McD can know that answer .

 

 

Edited February 13 by T master

[uticaclub]

 

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Being an attractive destination for free agents helps winning.

Do you think free agents are going to want to sign someplace where one of the precious roster spots is reserved for a guy they feel bad for? That's not a winning mentality and that's why a FA wouldn't sign here. The players are as cutthroat as anyone. There should be little concern for symphony or compassion, that's weakness.

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, T master said:

He's not going to get paid by this or any other team given the last 3 seasons that would be foolish for any team to pay him as the player he was before the injuries . If i was Beane i would give him a prove it deal (Maybe) but not at corner maybe safety & then i'd have to think about it .

 

I hate that Tre has been dealt the hand he has been but he has,  Beane will do what ever is in the best interest of the team both from a business stand point & the player . We all know Tre has the heart but physically can he come back, only time will tell there have been others that this type of thing has ended their careers .

 

I think all of Bills mafia were hoping Tre would be a cornerstone of this team for many years but right now none of us not even Beane or McD can know that answer .

 

 

I’m not positive that he can make the transition to safety seems a little on the small side

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

 

Do you think free agents are going to want to sign someplace where one of the precious roster spots is reserved for a guy they feel bad for? That's not a winning mentality and that's why a FA wouldn't sign here. The players are as cutthroat as anyone. There should be little concern for symphony or compassion, that's weakness.

You admitted its bad PR. I'm not talking about end of the roster guys (spoiler: end of the roster guys are pretty much interchangeable and don't matter all that much), I'm talking about guys like Leonard Floyd, mid tier FA's who might raise eyebrows if the team cut the dude who died on the field and had multiple teams to pick.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

32 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

The technique has already worked and quickly for a number of players.

 

Plus the team only saves about $6m if they cut him. Doubt you find a replacement corner at his level for that money

I would offer him a paycut if not good bye

[OldTimer1960]

13 hours ago, Jim said:

 

Here's the thing. I'm not Brandon Beane, Sean McDipshit or Terry Pegula. They can let him down easy when they cut his ass a wish him well. I'm a fan who wants to win. It seems like Tre is a wonderful young man. But guess what? He hasn't do ***** to help us win in a long time. So guess what? So long *****. See ya when you're back to "lead the charge!"

Did you forget your meds today?

[K-9]

10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I’m not positive that he can make the transition to safety seems a little on the small side

Does the one inch, five pound difference between him and Hyde make that much difference? Could Tre carry an extra five pounds if needed for the move to FS? 
 

There’s a lot of conjecture regarding Tre White, but the idea of just letting him go without knowing his rehab status is shortsighted at best. I wouldn’t count him out, regardless.

[uticaclub]

14 minutes ago, FireChans said:

You admitted its bad PR. I'm not talking about end of the roster guys (spoiler: end of the roster guys are pretty much interchangeable and don't matter all that much), I'm talking about guys like Leonard Floyd, mid tier FA's who might raise eyebrows if the team cut the dude who died on the field and had multiple teams to pick.

I don't believe that cutting someone who almost died is bad publicity. In the end, the game is all about winning, not feel-good stories. Damar wasn't even a high-draft pick, he was a fringe player when he suffered a heart attack. Leonard Floyd has made it clear that he prioritizes money over everything else. He doesn't care whether the team cuts Hamlin or not.

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, uticaclub said:

I don't believe that cutting someone who almost died is bad publicity. In the end, the game is all about winning, not feel-good stories. Damar wasn't even a high-draft pick, he was a fringe player when he suffered a heart attack. Leonard Floyd has made it clear that he prioritizes money over everything else. He doesn't care whether the team cuts Hamlin or not.

I think it would be very bad publicity. 

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I think it would be very bad publicity. 

I think he would stand a very real chance of losing the locker room, and probably some chances at pre-agents in the future

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I would offer him a paycut if not good bye

This is what my gut tells me will happen. And it's a good move for both parties.

 

Tre won't likely see big bucks as a FA. And if he comes back and is able to play I don't know if he's better than Douglas or Benford at this stage of his career. He's likely the #3 boundary CB. The one caveat here is IF he were to come back and IF he's healthy enough to be the #2 CB...a case could be made for the Bills to start the Benford to safety transition they talked about last off season. 

 

That would also IMO depend on Elam taking steps forward and possibly Dane Jackson returning as experienced depth. So a lot in play for a move like this.

[ColoradoBills]

24 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

This is what my gut tells me will happen. And it's a good move for both parties.

 

Tre won't likely see big bucks as a FA. And if he comes back and is able to play I don't know if he's better than Douglas or Benford at this stage of his career. He's likely the #3 boundary CB. The one caveat here is IF he were to come back and IF he's healthy enough to be the #2 CB...a case could be made for the Bills to start the Benford to safety transition they talked about last off season. 

 

That would also IMO depend on Elam taking steps forward and possibly Dane Jackson returning as experienced depth. So a lot in play for a move like this.

 

Agree.  It almost amounts to the pay cut being a "prove your still worth elite money" deal.

I think Tre would take it and not feel bad about it.

[dollars 2 donuts]

On 2/12/2024 at 10:53 PM, transplantbillsfan said:

The more I read about this "anchoring" technique to heal a torn achilles... no.

 

Tre might actually be participating fully in the minicamp in a couple months.

 

I think we restructure his deal, which would be smart, but if we get a fully healthy Tre White by minicamp, maybe McDermott and Babbich can transition Benford or Douglas to Safety. 

 

 

Thanks, transplant.

 

They may move on from here and the back to back injury sucks, but honestly, I have always thought that even though he was lost for the season this injury just wasn't that bad and that he likely won't even miss camp.

 

Tre of old and right off the bat?  Probably not, but I just know he'll be back, sooner rather than later, and that this was not career ending.

 

 

Edited February 14 by dollars 2 donuts

[NastyNateSoldiers]

28 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

This is what my gut tells me will happen. And it's a good move for both parties.

 

Tre won't likely see big bucks as a FA. And if he comes back and is able to play I don't know if he's better than Douglas or Benford at this stage of his career. He's likely the #3 boundary CB. The one caveat here is IF he were to come back and IF he's healthy enough to be the #2 CB...a case could be made for the Bills to start the Benford to safety transition they talked about last off season. 

 

That would also IMO depend on Elam taking steps forward and possibly Dane Jackson returning as experienced depth. So a lot in play for a move like this.

I rather have the depth at Corner then to move anyone to safety. Safeties are loaded in free agency and it's a value position just sign 2 new guys for cheap. It's time to find our new dynamic duo at Safety .

[Bruffalo]

 

 

[Sargent Hulka]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

PR matters.  You don't want free agents thinking "Buffalo is the place where they cold-blooded cut the dude who died on the field for them."

I get that, but how many seasons does he occupy a roster spot solely because management fears repercussion sentiments by releasing him?

[Heitz]

13 hours ago, Success said:

Huh?

 

I already feel like this is going to be the longest off-season EVER. Not sure I have the guts or mental ability to overpower it...  

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

14 hours ago, Jim said:

Does this team actually have the guts