KC GM Brett Veach

[Dubie54]

I don't see a whole lot of press for this guy but he has been nothing short of amazing with what he has put together in KC and how he has managed the draft and turn over of personnel without missing a beat.

 

Just looking at the D, I was blown away last night when it was said that Chris Jones is the only remaining guy on D from their SB of 4 years ago. Here's a look at the draft over that span.

 

2020:    Willie Gay - 63

              Sneed -   138

2021:  Bolton -   58

2022:  McDuffie -  21

           Karlaftis -   30

2023:  Uzomah  -  31

 

I would love to see somebody go through all of the FA deals he made over this time to complement the draft picks. Amazing stuff. 

 

Sure their rookie deals will start to expire and KC will probably not be able to re-sign all of them, but he turned the entire over in 4 years and they still won the SB, so there's no reason to think he can't do it again.

 

 

[Big Turk]

7 minutes ago, Dubie54 said:

I don't see a whole lot of press for this guy but he has been nothing short of amazing with what he has put together in KC and how he has managed the draft and turn over of personnel without missing a beat.

 

Just looking at the D, I was blown away last night when it was said that Chris Jones is the only remaining guy on D from their SB of 4 years ago. Here's a look at the draft over that span.

 

2020:    Willie Gay - 63

              Sneed -   138

2021:  Bolton -   58

2022:  McDuffie -  21

           Karlaftis -   30

2023:  Uzomah  -  31

 

I would love to see somebody go through all of the FA deals he made over this time to complement the draft picks. Amazing stuff. 

 

Sure their rookie deals will start to expire and KC will probably not be able to re-sign all of them, but he turned the entire over in 4 years and they still won the SB, so there's no reason to think he can't do it again.

 

 

 

The draft typically tends to even out over time...sometimes teams go on good runs with picks then have some not so good runs. Some pretty in depth studies show that almost all teams regress towards the mean over a big enough sample size.

Edited February 12 by Big Turk

[BBFL]

Sneed & McDuffie are just as vital to that unit as Chris Jones. The trade for Justin Reid and Mike Edwards was a huge hit for them too. Those 4 guys in that secondary is the bigger reason for success. 

Props to Veach as the LBs they’ve drafted are solid too. 

[juno999]

Trading Tyreek Hill for a bunch of picks worked out well too.  Two seasons and 2 Super Bowls.

[BBFL]

1 minute ago, juno999 said:

Trading Tyreek Hill for a bunch of picks worked out well too.  Two seasons and 2 Super Bowls.

Isn’t that the wildest thing? The offense is undeniably worse without Tyreek but they still come away with back to back SBs… 🤯

[78thealltimegreat]

Chris has one of the easiest jobs in the league. He just asks Andy what players he wants for his system and then can concentrate on defense and he’s found some real gems I loved Karloftus at Purdue he fell cause he doesn’t have long arms. 
 

Edited February 12 by 78thealltimegreat

[NoSaint]

3 hours ago, Dubie54 said:

I don't see a whole lot of press for this guy but he has been nothing short of amazing with what he has put together in KC and how he has managed the draft and turn over of personnel without missing a beat.

 

Just looking at the D, I was blown away last night when it was said that Chris Jones is the only remaining guy on D from their SB of 4 years ago. Here's a look at the draft over that span.

 

2020:    Willie Gay - 63

              Sneed -   138

2021:  Bolton -   58

2022:  McDuffie -  21

           Karlaftis -   30

2023:  Uzomah  -  31

 

I would love to see somebody go through all of the FA deals he made over this time to complement the draft picks. Amazing stuff. 

 

Sure their rookie deals will start to expire and KC will probably not be able to re-sign all of them, but he turned the entire over in 4 years and they still won the SB, so there's no reason to think he can't do it again.

 

 

that’s normal in todays nfl. Normally you pay a couple cornerstones and then churn like crazy. Being locked into a bunch of good but not great vets is worst case scenario.
 

Heck the pats were doing it a decade ago. 

[FilthyBeast]

Like I just said in another thread.....best GM in the NFL and all pro sports right now.

 

And not there's much of a chance of derailing the Chiefs dynasty anytime soon, as long as this guy is there and keeps draft all pros vs. solid starters and role players like the Bills and pretty much every other NFL team there's next to zero chance of the Chiefs crumbling.

 

Can't wait to see him replace Chris Jones and Kelce with even better players in the coming years....

[juno999]

7 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Isn’t that the wildest thing? The offense is undeniably worse without Tyreek but they still come away with back to back SBs… 🤯

Reloaded on defense with McDuffie and Karloftis.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

Like I just said in another thread.....best GM in the NFL and all pro sports right now.

 

And not there's much of a chance of derailing the Chiefs dynasty anytime soon, as long as this guy is there and keeps draft all pros vs. solid starters and role players like the Bills and pretty much every other NFL team there's next to zero chance of the Chiefs crumbling.

 

Can't wait to see him replace Chris Jones and Kelce with even better players in the coming years....

 

It's going to be interesting to watch the Chiefs and Chargers play now that LAC has Harbaugh. He can build a winner and the Chargers have talent. At the very least KC won't be an automatic division winner anymore. 

[strive_for_five_guy]

7 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Isn’t that the wildest thing? The offense is undeniably worse without Tyreek but they still come away with back to back SBs… 🤯

Between their coaching staff (Reid and Spags) and players (Mahomes, Kelce, Jones, etc.), they know how to execute in big games.

[BBFL]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

 

It's going to be interesting to watch the Chiefs and Chargers play now that LAC has Harbaugh. He can build a winner and the Chargers have talent. At the very least KC won't be an automatic division winner anymore. 

Yeah but everybody said Mahomes was going to drop off statistically without Tyreek… Whilst he did slightly it wasn’t as bad as anticipated and they’ve come away with back to back Lombardi’s since. 
 

I’ll hold my breath on them having a rough time in that division for now. Denver is Denver… a mess on the QB situation with no picks after trading for Wilson and Payton. 
 

Oakland, huge QB questions there as well. Solid team but the QB wins it. 
 

That leaves San Diego. They need to retool that OLine and secondary, maybe look to bring in a RB as Ekeler’s heavy useage may be catching up on him. Herbert is great but he needs a run game of some sort to accentuate him to his best capabilities. Maybe they can acquire Derrick Henry? Just not sold on them because of a HC hire… They’re the NFL’s prince who’s promised. 

[FilthyBeast]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

It's going to be interesting to watch the Chiefs and Chargers play now that LAC has Harbaugh. He can build a winner and the Chargers have talent. At the very least KC won't be an automatic division winner anymore. 

 

No but I'm sure getting into the playoffs as a wildcard will be the next chip on the chiefs collective shoulders and narrative they'll kill instantly.

 

I do agree at some point though they'll face a real threat in their division but might not be right away next year since the Chargers are also facing a pending roster purge and reset because of the salary cap and new coaches/schemes that will be implemented.

 

[mannc]

3 hours ago, Dubie54 said:

I don't see a whole lot of press for this guy but he has been nothing short of amazing with what he has put together in KC and how he has managed the draft and turn over of personnel without missing a beat.

 

Just looking at the D, I was blown away last night when it was said that Chris Jones is the only remaining guy on D from their SB of 4 years ago. Here's a look at the draft over that span.

 

2020:    Willie Gay - 63

              Sneed -   138

2021:  Bolton -   58

2022:  McDuffie -  21

           Karlaftis -   30

2023:  Uzomah  -  31

 

I would love to see somebody go through all of the FA deals he made over this time to complement the draft picks. Amazing stuff. 

 

Sure their rookie deals will start to expire and KC will probably not be able to re-sign all of them, but he turned the entire over in 4 years and they still won the SB, so there's no reason to think he can't do it again.

 

 

And since 2018, KC has had 24 picks in the first four rounds of draft…they picked 17 defensive players, and of the 7 offensive players, most have been busts.  Go figure.

[Gregg]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

No but I'm sure getting into the playoffs as a wildcard will be the next chip on the chiefs collective shoulders and narrative they'll kill instantly.

 

I do agree at some point though they'll face a real threat in their division but might not be right away next year since the Chargers are also facing a pending roster purge and reset because of the salary cap and new coaches/schemes that will be implemented.

 

 

It may take some time. I didn't say next year but Harbaugh can coach. Took the Niners to the Super Bowl and won a national championship with Michigan.  Harbaugh will get them turned around and Herbert is still young. I could see LAC becoming a force in the AFC down the road.

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, BBFL said:

Sneed & McDuffie are just as vital to that unit as Chris Jones. The trade for Justin Reid and Mike Edwards was a huge hit for them too. Those 4 guys in that secondary is the bigger reason for success. 

Props to Veach as the LBs they’ve drafted are solid too. 

 

I thought Reid was a FA? But regardless was a great pickup. He got lost in the mess at Houston but has always been very good.

 

I think Jones is the most important piece on their defense still personally. He is a game wrecker and the two pivotal plays against the Bills and last night at the end he makes them. That isn't to diminish the two two corners at all. They are very good. But Jones is a monster with a knack of making the play in the crunch. 

 

And that is the thing with KC. They make their big plays in crunch time year after year 

[beebe]

omenihu (injured for super bowl) and tranquill were really nice signings for chiefs defense. bryan cook (emerging safety) was also injured late season and missed the playoffs. leo chenal (2nd year player made some huge plays). 

Edited February 12 by beebe

[The Jokeman]

8 minutes ago, mannc said:

And since 2018, KC has had 24 picks in the first four rounds of draft…they picked 17 defensive players, and of the 7 offensive players, most have been busts.  Go figure.

Shhh only Beane makes draft busts and takes too many players on defense according to some here. 

Edited February 12 by The Jokeman

[BBFL]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I thought Reid was a FA? But regardless was a great pickup. He got lost in the mess at Houston but has always been very good.

 

I think Jones is the most important piece on their defense still personally. He is a game wrecker and the two pivotal plays against the Bills and last night at the end he makes them. That isn't to diminish the two two corners at all. They are very good. But Jones is a monster with a knack of making the play in the crunch. 

 

And that is the thing with KC. They make their big plays in crunch time year after year 

You’re right. He was, don’t know what I had in my head. Maybe that they switched Honey Badger for him. 
 

Chris Jones is the guy 100% but the players along that line with him are a little worse than previous SB teams. That quartet gives him a little more time. 
 

Still amazing that, like Kelce, he’s left wide open or unblocked on so many plays. If there’s one guy you have to pay attention to on that line it is Jones and only Jones. 

[Boatdrinks]

Wow , great post . Incredible that Veach was on the Bills short list of GMs when they were hiring years back. Also incredible that the Bills could have drafted Mahomes instead of trading the pick. How different things could have been. Yeah there’s no reason to think it won’t continue so it’s best just to become a Chiefs fan and sit back in amazement at their accomplishments. Bills fans will just have to wait until they draft their next QB after Allen and Mahomes are retired. Then maybe they’ll have a chance at a SuperBowl. It’s just bad timing and you’ll be best off following the Chiefs for the next 10 years or so. 

Edited February 12 by Boatdrinks