The Wiz Posted February 9 Posted February 9 (edited) Well at least Josh is taking this better than we are. Edited February 9 by The Wiz Quote
billieve420 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 If there was any year where award should have gone to Non QB it was this year. However, not going to go crazy with the result. I would have given it to McCaffrey. However, Josh’s numbers at the end of the year probably had a lot to do with it. Numbers weren’t eye popping. I think if Josh had cut down on half of the turnovers and we didn’t have some of the losses we had to the bottom feeders. Josh would have easily taken award. 1 2 1 Quote
Brand J Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Allen was 5-1 against playoff teams. Lamar was 6-3. Lamar didn’t play against the Steelers in the final regular season game, so he was 6-2. But check this out… Ravens 25 Texans 9 Ravens 28 Browns 3 Ravens 38 Lions 6 Ravens 33 49ers 19 Ravens 56 Dolphins 19 Optics matter. Of their 13 regular seasons wins, 9 were by double digits. Of the eight teams in NFL history that had 9 wins by double digits or more, all had made the Super Bowl and only one of those didn’t win. The Lamar led Ravens bludgeoned teams and that’s why he’s MVP of the regular season, because he played phenomenal at times. It wasn’t because “let’s give the award to him because he’s Black.” I’m surprised so many of you agreed with that take. 1 1 Quote
JJGauna Posted February 9 Posted February 9 The year we lock up the one seed is the year Josh wins MVP, next year! 1 Quote
KingBoots8 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 CMC should have won. That being said, Josh should have won if a QB had to win it. Either way, the only votes I agreed on all night were CJ Stroud getting OROY and Tom Grossi winning Fan of the Year. Quote
Herc11 Posted February 9 Posted February 9 40 minutes ago, NewEra said: Who was the ravens mvp if not lamar? A MLB or a S? Their defense. That's what kept them in games for the first 3/4 of the season. Lamar didn't do anything until December. He wasn't even in the MVP conversation until the 49ers lost to the Ravens and Purdy lost the MVP. Then all of a sudden everyone was saying how good Lamar was. Quote
Roundybout Posted February 9 Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, Brand J said: Lamar didn’t play against the Steelers in the final regular season game, so he was 6-2. But check this out… Ravens 25 Texans 9 Ravens 28 Browns 3 Ravens 38 Lions 6 Ravens 33 49ers 19 Ravens 56 Dolphins 19 Optics matter. Of their 13 regular seasons wins, 9 were by double digits. Of the eight teams in NFL history that had 9 wins by double digits or more, all had made the Super Bowl and only one of those didn’t win. The Lamar led Ravens bludgeoned teams and that’s why he’s MVP of the regular season, because he played phenomenal at times. It wasn’t because “let’s give the award to him because he’s Black.” I’m surprised so many of you agreed with that take. And then he choked to death in the playoffs like usual 1 Quote
Blank Stare Posted February 9 Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, JJGauna said: The year we lock up the one seed is the year Josh wins MVP, next year! Nope, they’ll move the goalpost and come up with some other excuse. Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, The Wiz said: I'm not mad about the MVP at all, honestly don't care but I agree. He's not liked. As someone said before it comes down to two reasons, they were wrong about him in their previous expectations of him and his race (and or his quoting racist things that were just him being a kid joking around with a friend). I disagree actually. I think he’s generally well liked. But the general attitude toward the Bills is that they are good and sometimes great, but destined to choke. I think we’re viewed as a good team now, but in the end we’re still losers. Josh is living under Mahomes shadow. It’s going to be this way until the Bills win a Super Bowl. Why would the media spend time liking Josh when then could be giving that attention to other people and teams who don’t have legendary choke jobs and honestly a kind of cursed vibe attached to them. Those are obviously not my feelings toward Josh and the team, but I do believe it’s how a lot of other people view him and the team. It doesn’t matter how many incredible moments he has because in the end they come up short and it’s pointless and painful. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Onto next year... It really is a joke Lamar won it this year. Bills fan and Josh Allen homer aside... McCaffery really should have won it. Do even any of the most negative Nancy or (as they'd call themselves) "objective" and "realistic" posters on this board think Lamar Jackson was more valuable to his team this year or just flat out had a better year? Plus... anyone notice no one EVER talks about how many fumbles he loses... it's a lot. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted February 9 Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, Brand J said: Ravens 25 Texans 9 Ravens 28 Browns 3 Ravens 38 Lions 6 Ravens 33 49ers 19 Ravens 56 Dolphins 19 Optics matter. Of their 13 regular seasons wins, 9 were by double digits. Allen’s 5-1 record against playoff teams came with average margin of victory of 13 points. There is no way around it. Lamar was no more the MVP than Allen. 1 1 Quote
Gambit Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: So LJ now has 1 playoff win and 2 MVP’s? Now now, he has 2 playoff wins. Sooo, twice as good... MVP should include playoffs honestly. Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Allen’s 5-1 record against playoff teams came with average margin of victory of 13 points. There is no way around it. Lamar was no more the MVP than Allen. It doesn't matter... everyone (except Nick Wright) knows Allen is the better QB. Quote
Brand J Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Just now, Einstein said: Allen’s 5-1 record against playoff teams came with average margin of victory of 13 points. There is no way around it. Lamar was no more the MVP than Allen. I didn’t say Lamar was more deserving of the MVP than Josh Allen, I said the award wasn’t given to Lamar simply because he was Black like you all believed and then pointed out the reasons for why he won. The Bills were “the best team in the NFL” for about one week, after they beat the Dolphins early in the year. The Ravens were by far the most consistent and dominate and beat the crap out of top contenders. That’s really not debatable. 1 Quote
transplantbillsfan Posted February 9 Posted February 9 Just now, Gambit said: Now now, he has 2 playoff wins. Sooo, twice as good... MVP should include playoffs honestly. Only problem with that is that NFL MVP and Super Bowl MVP would pretty much always be the same guy. Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 9 Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: So LJ now has 1 playoff win and 2 MVP’s? 2 playoff wins in his career. Who could forget the thrilling 20-13 victory over the Ryan Tannehill Titans in 2020? 1 Quote
Albany,n.y. Posted February 9 Posted February 9 34 minutes ago, Blank Stare said: bull#### Damar didn’t win comeback player of the year. Robbing Josh and now this. Dude literally died on the field. You can’t come back from any more than that. Damar was closer to the Victor Allotey award than comeback player of the year. Quote
FireChans Posted February 9 Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, Brand J said: Lamar didn’t play against the Steelers in the final regular season game, so he was 6-2. But check this out… Ravens 25 Texans 9 Ravens 28 Browns 3 Ravens 38 Lions 6 Ravens 33 49ers 19 Ravens 56 Dolphins 19 Optics matter. Of their 13 regular seasons wins, 9 were by double digits. Of the eight teams in NFL history that had 9 wins by double digits or more, all had made the Super Bowl and only one of those didn’t win. The Lamar led Ravens bludgeoned teams and that’s why he’s MVP of the regular season, because he played phenomenal at times. It wasn’t because “let’s give the award to him because he’s Black.” I’m surprised so many of you agreed with that take. The way to win the MVP: Be the one seed Have great stats Have a great offense That's it. 1 Quote
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