T master Posted February 5 Posted February 5 I was wondering with all the HC openings if he would get a interview or not & apparently every one isn't as high on him as the so called experts think . Seeing as Andy is taking his team to another SB & Washington sucked it was more Andy than Eric . Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 10 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Thought I saw a tweet that he's in consideration for the Raiders OC spot. Havent seen much else. makes a ton of sense there. players coach and a former player in place at HC. history of guys slacking off, doing their own thing. good cop/bad cop scenario, and a place for him to prove his OC skills. 1 Quote
warrior9 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 12 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: This is a VERY interesting situation that has developed. Eric Bienemy has problems and can't seem to find a head coaching gig and now gets replaced as OC in Washington. Wow! https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39461124/washington-commanders-hiring-kilff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator https://fansided.com/posts/eric-bieniemy-missed-opportunity-commanders-chiefs-right It's almost as if... he's just not a good coach. He's been interviewed by 15+ teams and hasn't been hired. Something isn't clicking and this is a nothing story. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted February 5 Posted February 5 18 minutes ago, T master said: I was wondering with all the HC openings if he would get a interview or not & apparently every one isn't as high on him as the so called experts think . Seeing as Andy is taking his team to another SB & Washington sucked it was more Andy than Eric . I'm sure EB is a smart coach and knows football and how to be a good coach. With the amount of HC interviews he has had, if someone truly believed he would be a good leader, he would have gotten a job. He hasn't, that doesn't need to be some big conspiracy. Some guys just are not HCs 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: I'm sure EB is a smart coach and knows football and how to be a good coach. With the amount of HC interviews he has had, if someone truly believed he would be a good leader, he would have gotten a job. He hasn't, that doesn't need to be some big conspiracy. Some guys just are not HCs Yeah I think even the talking heads have backed down on wondering why he isnt being hired. At this point, he's been through so many cycles folks are realizing there must be a reason there that is better off left alone. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Sexual Assault accusations follow you a long time. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Just now, thenorthremembers said: Sexual Assault accusations follow you a long time. Good. Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 5 Posted February 5 56 minutes ago, FireChans said: That’s why what Ben Johnson is doing is super risky imo. Yea, it is. But the two jobs it looks like was offered was Carolina in 2023 and Washington in 2024. They are both bad jobs IMO. He probably has to make the jump next year though, or else teams will just stop calling. Quote
warrior9 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah I think even the talking heads have backed down on wondering why he isnt being hired. At this point, he's been through so many cycles folks are realizing there must be a reason there that is better off left alone. That and 4 minorities were hired this cycle so they have nothing to complain about now. 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted February 5 Posted February 5 (edited) 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Washington were 24th in yards, and 25th in points offensively in 2023. I think that is probably a very slight overperformance of their talent but not significant. They had some success early in the year with Sam Howell, but he cooled off as the season went on. I quite like him as a gamer. Think he definitely has a future in the league but probably not as a starter. He reminds me a lot of Baker Mayfield though and with better talent he could have some success. Bienemy went there to prove he wasn't just riding Reid and Mahomes's coat tails. I think he proved he can coach, he is a credible OC. But he didn't prove himself more than that. I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up sitting this year out, or takes essentially an advisory role somewhere, but he will be back as an OC in 2025. I think his shot at Head Coach jobs are passed though. You are a hot candidate for a relatively short window and once your window is gone it can be gone for good. I always cite Ray Horton for this. He was a really hot HC candidate for two cycles - think it was 2012 and 2013 - he is now coaching in the USFL. Teryl Austin was another - he had three years in the mid-2010s of multiple interviews. He is still in the league as the Steelers DC they finished 6th best this year in points against, but there were zero interviews coming out of it. His moment has passed. Kellen Moore might be going the same way. Had a couple of hot years when he first became OC in Dallas where he had multiple HC interviews. Other than a courtesy interview as a man on staff in LA he didn't have a sniff this year. The offense got worse over the season, though. In their final five games, they didn't get to 300 yards even once. And they had 10 turnovers in those five games. Edited February 5 by dave mcbride 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted February 5 Posted February 5 30 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: The offense got worse over the season, though. In their final five games, they didn't get to 300 yards even once and averaged 12.5 points per game in that stretch (with 18 being their highest total). And they had 10 turnovers in those five games. They didn't get to 30 points once all season. They scored 30 points 3 times last season. https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/wsh/washington-commanders Quote
Einstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 13 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: What is his appeal? He left KC and they still won. He went to Washington and they didn't win. What does he have to hang his hat on? That he coached maybe the best young QB in history? Not a tough job. Clearly they didn't need him and neither did Washington KC’s offense looked much worse this season and KC fans were clamoring for Bienemy back until literally about 2 or 3 weeks ago. They still won because of their defense. 2 Quote
dave mcbride Posted February 5 Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: They scored 30 points 3 times last season. https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/wsh/washington-commanders Ugh! I was stupidly looking at the wrong column (first downs!). Thanks for the correction. The point about the yardage in the final five games stands, though. 1 Quote
Chaos Posted February 5 Posted February 5 13 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: This is a VERY interesting situation that has developed. Eric Bienemy has problems and can't seem to find a head coaching gig and now gets replaced as OC in Washington. Wow! https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39461124/washington-commanders-hiring-kilff-kingsbury-offensive-coordinator https://fansided.com/posts/eric-bieniemy-missed-opportunity-commanders-chiefs-right What makes this interesting? 1 Quote
FireChans Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea, it is. But the two jobs it looks like was offered was Carolina in 2023 and Washington in 2024. They are both bad jobs IMO. He probably has to make the jump next year though, or else teams will just stop calling. I agree but Eric Bienemy would kill for both of those jobs. And turning around a bad team is the instant COTY material. Quote
Roundybout Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: Sexual Assault accusations follow you a long time. And people still can’t figure out why Araiza never got a job Quote
stuvian Posted February 5 Posted February 5 If Belichick, Carroll and Vrabel can't get jobs why should Bienemy? This round of hirings shows that owners are not willing to blow up their organization for just anyone not named Harbaugh. Bienemy will have to tutor a young quarterback to somewhere between competence and greatness for a return to relevance. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 hour ago, FireChans said: That’s why what Ben Johnson is doing is super risky imo. If Ben Johnson has another top 10 offense this season, he will have his pick of pretty much any job that becomes available. That would prove that he can sustainably generate top 10 offenses over several years and different players. The problem this year was the two teams that really pushed for him are terrible franchises. Not just a bad roster, but terrible owners or a brand new owner that is learning on the job. With the leverage he has, I wouldn’t have taken either of the jobs either. I think he made a smart choice. Most people only get one chance at a HC job. You have to make the right choice because he may be only your chance ever. I get your point about turning around a bad franchise, but its tough to overcome bad ownership. Quote
wppete Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Kingsbury is a far better OC. And Bieniemy is not HC material, never was. Laughable that anyone ever thought he was. Quote
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