Diggs cryptic comments - 2024 edition

[Einstein]

11 hours ago, billieve420 said:

I would be looking at mini rebuild if I was Beane and start cutting the fat in order to set us up for the next run. So I would go with youth movement next year while still trying to compete and taking our lumps.

 

The age of “rebuilds” and “windows” are over when you have a franchise QB.

 

You just re-tool every offseason for another run.

 

KC has retooled twice and has been in 4 of the last 5 Super Bowls.

[colin]

to me the question is: would you sign diggs today for what he would cost and what you know about him, or would you not?

 

im really not sure how much his antics play into his value in the team, but i'd suspect at this point it's a slight negative, if it registers at all.

 

he's been basically cheeks in the second half of every season, and just about every playoff.  he isn't getting double teamed and he really doesn't make players round him better.

 

we will know who we drafted, and have some idea of who will be signed come june 1st, so i suppose there is a decent shot we move on from him, but i think we trade up for a real star wr, and draft a wr later, and keep diggs for one last shot.

 

diggs cook kinkaid, shakir, allen and some top flight rookie wr along w the line we have is easily the best offensive roster in buffalo since the kelly years, and light fools up. 

[Eastport bills]

I love what Diggs brought to the offense giving them an edge as well as big time production. Unfortunately he has become more of distraction along with less separation and production. He probably needs a new challenge and we need a less expensive, explosive threat at receiver. Take Belichek’s approach and get max value a year before his trajectory points down.

[Nuncha]

On 2/3/2024 at 10:08 PM, BillsFanForever19 said:

Here we go.

 

It's bad enough the media likes to make something out of nothing every year. Do we really need to do it every year too?

 

It's nothing. Same as last year. His contract isn't really tradable. Especially with how he played at the end of last year. Why would a team take that on if there's any concern he's falling off?

 

As for what he said, I read it as nothing. I just took it as him looking at how things ended last season and the team being a mess roster wise and not taking for granted that he's safe. Reports are he's not unhappy or looking to move:

 

https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-is-sean-mcdermott-hot-seat-insider-notes-bills-hc-s-future-stefon-diggs-speculation-seahawks-coaching-search?utm_source=www.sportskeeda.com&utm_medium=native&utm_campaign=ShareArticle

Nothing?  Do you seriously think he performed as a WR1 during the second half of the season?  Something is up with him - ether physically, mentally or both.

[Blank Stare]

I know it’s BR, and some of these are a bit pie in the sky, but provided the economics work, I’d be up for just about any one of these trades if he really wants out:

 

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10107846-top-potential-nfl-trade-packages-for-bills-wr-stefon-diggs.amp.html

 

I think Stef will be here next year, but I’d trade him yesterday for Brian Burns (or any of these first round pick ideas). No guarantee you’ll hit, but I’d invest heavy in WR in the draft under this scenario.  

[Low Positive]

Everyone talking about "moving on" needs to read this: https://www.spotrac.com/news/understanding-nfl-dead-cap-1781/

 

Then they need to take a look at this: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/

 

The NFL salary cap is designed to really discourage teams from releasing highly-paid under-performing players. Hence the problems that the Bills find themselves with Diggs and Von Miller.

[Brand J]

52 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

I know it’s BR, and some of these are a bit pie in the sky, but provided the economics work, I’d be up for just about any one of these trades if he really wants out:

 

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10107846-top-potential-nfl-trade-packages-for-bills-wr-stefon-diggs.amp.html

 

I think Stef will be here next year, but I’d trade him yesterday for Brian Burns (or any of these first round pick ideas). No guarantee you’ll hit, but I’d invest heavy in WR in the draft under this scenario.  

I don’t think any team is giving up a first rounder for an expensive 30 year old WR coming off a down year. If there’s such a team gullible enough to make that sort of deal, Beane would jump at it IMO. 

[BuffaloRebound]

5 minutes ago, Brand J said:

I don’t think any team is giving up a first rounder for an expensive 30 year old WR coming off a down year. If there’s such a team gullible enough to make that sort of deal, Beane would jump at it IMO. 

Yep.  Maybe Carolina is desperate enough to salvage Bryce Young.  They’re not getting any decent free agent to go there without over/bidding everybody by 50% and they don’t have a 1st round pick.  Maybe you’d get a 3rd rounder from them or a 2nd round trade up. Can’t see anybody else desperate enough.  

[HappyDays]

22 hours ago, Einstein said:

But they could trade him with a post-June 1st designation for only half the cost. Which I wouldnt be totally shocked if they do.

 

Two things to keep in mind with post-6/1 designations:

 

1) You can release a player before 6/1 and give them a post-6/1 designation, but you cannot trade a player prior to 6/1 with a post-6/1 designation. So if the plan is to trade Diggs, we'd have to wait until June.

 

2) Whether releasing or trading a player with a post-6/1 designation, the cap ramifications do not change until 6/1. So with Diggs we would free up $19 million in cap space this year, but it wouldn't be usable until well after free agency has dried up which means it is effectively useless.

 

There's really no scenario where trading Diggs this offseason helps our roster this year unfortunately. The only reason to do it would be if he and the team's relationship has totally broken down, or some team offers us a great trade value that is impossible to ignore.

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 hours ago, Blank Stare said:

I know it’s BR, and some of these are a bit pie in the sky, but provided the economics work, I’d be up for just about any one of these trades if he really wants out:

 

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10107846-top-potential-nfl-trade-packages-for-bills-wr-stefon-diggs.amp.html

 

I think Stef will be here next year, but I’d trade him yesterday for Brian Burns (or any of these first round pick ideas). No guarantee you’ll hit, but I’d invest heavy in WR in the draft under this scenario.  

I don’t think Diggs would fetch a 1st but if one was offered I’d take it in a heartbeat. Don’t care what the dead numbers look like.

[Einstein]

7 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

 

1) You can release a player before 6/1 and give them a post-6/1 designation, but you cannot trade a player prior to 6/1 with a post-6/1 designation. So if the plan is to trade Diggs, we'd have to wait until June.

 

Ah, I didnt know that. Thanks for the info.

[noacls]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Two things to keep in mind with post-6/1 designations:

 

1) You can release a player before 6/1 and give them a post-6/1 designation, but you cannot trade a player prior to 6/1 with a post-6/1 designation. So if the plan is to trade Diggs, we'd have to wait until June.

 

2) Whether releasing or trading a player with a post-6/1 designation, the cap ramifications do not change until 6/1. So with Diggs we would free up $19 million in cap space this year, but it wouldn't be usable until well after free agency has dried up which means it is effectively useless.

 

There's really no scenario where trading Diggs this offseason helps our roster this year unfortunately. The only reason to do it would be if he and the team's relationship has totally broken down, or some team offers us a great trade value that is impossible to ignore.

Question Chubbs.if they did that with Diggs wouldn't the be able to roll savings into 25? That would  help with the cap hell caused by 40, 27, and 88. This is only if they get Thomas or Franklin at 28

[BillsFanForever19]

4 hours ago, Nuncha said:

Nothing?  Do you seriously think he performed as a WR1 during the second half of the season?  Something is up with him - ether physically, mentally or both.

 

... and what exactly does that have to do with his comments being a big ole' nothing burger?

 

It's the same every year. Diggs will say or do some cryptic stuff to keep his name on people's lips during the Offseason and literally everyone falls for it. 

 

Sorry to break it to you, but he's not going anywhere until 2025 at the earliest. He knows it and the Bills know it.

Edited February 5 by BillsFanForever19

[damj]

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[Einstein]

19 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Diggs will say or do some cryptic stuff to keep his name on people's lips

 

You don't find that to be completely immature and not productive for either him or the team?

[BillsFanForever19]

6 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

You don't find that to be completely immature and not productive for either him or the team?

 

It just is what it is.

 

I honestly don't think it has an effect on the team whatsoever. I think they know the game he plays trolling the media and fans and they probably laugh about it behind the scenes.

 

Does it look like Dawkins and Cook are really bothered with him at the Pro Bowl? 

Edited February 5 by BillsFanForever19

[frostbitmic]

Wasn't there a part that he said he wants to help the Bills win the Super Bowl this year ... I find that incredibly cryptic 🔎

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, Low Positive said:

Everyone talking about "moving on" needs to read this: https://www.spotrac.com/news/understanding-nfl-dead-cap-1781/

 

Then they need to take a look at this: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/stefon-diggs-16872/

 

The NFL salary cap is designed to really discourage teams from releasing highly-paid under-performing players. Hence the problems that the Bills find themselves with Diggs and Von Miller.

 

Yeah they really can't just move on from Diggs or Miller without big consequence.

 

But the highlighted is like saying that the concept of "currency" was created to put people in debt. 

 

The want for things you can't afford creates debt.

 

The salary cap was DESIGNED to make it so every team has the same buying power as their league partners........it's certainly NOT designed to be kind to highly-paid under-performing players.........it's designed to create spending balance and punish careless spending.

 

[Einstein]

8 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

I honestly don't think it has an effect on the team whatsoever. I think they know the game he plays trolling the media and fans and they probably laugh about it behind the scenes.

Maybe you're right. But I always wondered whether McD and Beane were talking to Diggs about his media comments before training camp. Remember when he was sent home by McD and McD said he was "very concerned" etc?

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

On 2/4/2024 at 2:37 PM, KOKBILLS said:

 

Right... I could see that... Problem is, that savings does not kick in till after the 6/1 trade... But it is WAY more do-able... 

 

A June 1st designation is not a magic wand that gets rid of dead cap. What it does is carry over the dead cap into 2025. So yay, the Bills STILL need to make the same cuts and restructures to get under the cap, and get the money after the top tier (and medium tier) free agents are gone.

 

So, to recap, a Diggs cut:

1) will absolutely not get us under the cap

2) Removes a 1000 yard receiver from the roster

3) If it happens is a back breaker for bidding on new talent in 2025.

 

Some people are going to need to wake up and smell the coffee. The numbers all but guarantee that Diggs will be on the team in 2024. Odds are, he's probably going to be  here in 2025 as well. Make your peace with it.