NoSaint Posted February 4 Posted February 4 40 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: The amount of notifications from articles writing about this even before his comments says you are wrong. The media is very eager to write about a top WR possibly switching teams. It generates views for them. We saw this all year long. And all offseason long bc he was angry about the pathetic performance against the bengals. They certainly aren't writing about it because there is legitimate news on this. The media loves speculation and were going to talk about Diggs moving on regardless of whether or not he says "I'm looking forward to coming back next year" or "I can't tell you what the future holds, but ill be ready". If you really think the media would stop because he said the former and is only writing about it because he said the latter, then I am sorry, that's just silly. that you’ve curated a hyper bills focused media bubble doesnt make this big news and that his sketchy answers and behavior are being acknowledged doesn’t mean they are creating a narrative out of thin air 2
Beast Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) I’m past the point of caring. Edited February 4 by Beast 1 1 1 1
Einstein Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 1 hour ago, transient said: clip completely misses the context of his initial response, which was paraphrasing “you’ve all (the media) already asked me these questions and my responses have always been the same”, and that the people in the locker room know how he feels and know his intentions. He takes accountability for his dropped passes, saying there are many plays he’d like back Yes and no. The full interview has many questions, spanning several topics. So obviously his answers vary depending on the topic. All of the answers you mentioned are not in response to the question of whether he thinks he will be back in Buffalo, so you are misrepresenting the interview a bit. Some questions are about the plays he wants back (as you mentioned the dropped passes), and another question is about his relationship with Josh (which he responds by not actually answering but instead talking about money and contracts which is odd because you should probably give a positive answer considering he is your friend and QB), and another question elicits the response about how he gets the same questions over and over (as you mention). But no - it’s not like all these answers were in response to the question of whether he thinks he will be in Buffalo next year. His initial response to that was “I don’t know”. You’re combining an entire interview of responses into one answer when it was actually several topics, and his opinion changed depending on the topic (which makes sense). Personally I think it’s interesting seeing the distribution of responses - on one side there is the media that definitely makes too much of it. Then on the other side there are fans like you that want to completely dismiss it all as absolutely nothing. I attempt to find the middle ground (sometimes failing but the middle is often where the truth lay). In my life experience it seems that so many find that middle ground impossible to look at. Honestly its not that hard to give a positive answer that leaves the media with nothing to grasp onto. 98% of NFL players figure it out. Diggs is smart. He could do it to if he wanted to. As others said, maybe it’s just a game to him and he likes messing with the media but it’s not really a game that benefits him (or the team) so I wish he just wouldn’t.
LabattBlue Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Best WR in franchise history and the fan base wants to chase him out of town just like Jason Peters. Eric Moulds & Andre Reed say hello! 😉 3
BruceVilanch Posted February 4 Posted February 4 This shi* would be a lot less annoying if he was elite. 1
noacls Posted February 4 Posted February 4 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: Eric Moulds & Andre Reed say hello! 😉 So does Lofton. I don't think Diggs gets in the HOF 1
Peter Posted February 4 Posted February 4 13 hours ago, Einstein said: A couple of these quotes have been sprinkled in various threads, but this probably deserves it’s own thread since the media will run with these. I don’t know if he’s doing it on purpose, or if he doesn’t realize how it comes off, but his cryptic comments definitely stir things up. I wonder how difficult it is for someone to say in response to these questions: 1) Josh and I have a great relationship; 2) I want to be a Buffalo Bill next season. It took him longer to avoid actually answering the question. 2
LabattBlue Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) Too often here, you read that his tantrums/outbursts are just because he wants to win. I say BS. The majority of players are driven by a SB win, yet don’t behave like a bratty teenager. Diggs is just a crybaby diva. Brutally honest take…I can’t wait for both Diggs & Non to be former Bills. Edited February 4 by LabattBlue 4 1
Aussie Joe Posted February 4 Posted February 4 Are people confident he is going over a 1,000 yards next year ?
Einstein Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 19 minutes ago, Peter said: I wonder how difficult it is for someone to say in response to these questions: 1) Josh and I have a great relationship; 2) I want to be a Buffalo Bill next season. It took him longer to avoid actually answering the question. Well said. This is what I have been attempting to articulate. It is not difficult to give the right answer. It’s actually much more difficult to talk cryptically than it is to say what you said above. Or put a different way. Does ANYONE on this forum think Josh Allen would answer a reporters question about being in Buffalo with an answer of “I don’t know. I don’t control the money and all that.” ZERO chance. 1
julian Posted February 4 Posted February 4 The very moment he made a public spectacle on the sidelines throwing his arms in the air and chirping 17 for the whole world to witness was the start of the end of Diggs great run in Buffalo. I recently seen some former players discussing this situation with Diggs the other day, can’t remember who but they made an interesting point, they said don’t ever let management figure out they can win without you and that’s exactly what the Bills did over their 2nd half run to the 2 seed. Diggs served his purpose but the team has failed to win a championship with him and now have proven they can win without him, the sooner he’s gone the better for the Bills and especially 17 who now at 28 years of age has complete ownership of this team and can elevate some young blue chip 1st rnd WR. 2
Steptide Posted February 4 Posted February 4 One thing I kinda took from the interview, and maybe I'm reading too deep into it, is that when Brady took over, it was gonna limit his catches. I'm purely speculating here, but I believe Dorsey had it in his plan to keep Diggs involved at all times, and after Brady took over, they had to change things up a bit, which obviously worked because we won out. 1
Aussie Joe Posted February 4 Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, julian said: Diggs served his purpose but the team has failed to win a championship with him and now have proven they can win without him, the sooner he’s gone the better for the Bills and especially 17 who now at 28 years of age has complete ownership of this team and can elevate some young blue chip 1st rnd WR. I think they would move on from him tomorrow … but this is the dilemma right… 1
without a drought Posted February 4 Posted February 4 People who cares about this are the real drama queens. 2 1
julian Posted February 4 Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: I think they would move on from him tomorrow … but this is the dilemma right… Absolutely, I just find it weird that many fans can’t see or just refuse to see what’s actually been happening with Diggs, people minimizing and some outright calling it media driven narrative. I understand not wanting Diggs to leave, he was great for Allen and exactly what 17 needed at that time, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone willing to accept it that the relationship is over and Allen is ready to raise a 1st rnd WR of his own. 2
Cray51 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 It’s all so funny to me - I have no issues with Diggs being cryptic. He has no allegiance to Buffalo. He signed a deal, he plays because he has a deal. He doesn’t need to say he loves it, and he honors his contract every year. i don’t say I look forward to coming to my job, and when the market was insane a few years ago everyone lacked allegiance to their employer. Diggs is a little different in how he approaches the media. I don’t pay any attention unless he decides to not show up on Sunday. 1
Ya Digg? Posted February 4 Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, julian said: Absolutely, I just find it weird that many fans can’t see or just refuse to see what’s actually been happening with Diggs, people minimizing and some outright calling it media driven narrative. I understand not wanting Diggs to leave, he was great for Allen and exactly what 17 needed at that time, but it’s pretty obvious to anyone willing to accept it that the relationship is over and Allen is ready to raise a 1st rnd WR of his own. So it might not be a complete media driven narrative, but to think they don’t have about 50% of the blame is naive as well.
julian Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: So it might not be a complete media driven narrative, but to think they don’t have about 50% of the blame is naive as well. I’m the last person to defend the media on any front lol. But this started with Diggs and will end with Diggs playing somewhere else at some point and that’s exactly what Diggs wants and I’m guessing what Allen and the team wants as well. 50% ? IDK how to quantify that but ok if that’s the case I wouldn’t be surprised.
KHAN Posted February 4 Posted February 4 I'll take "Things that don't matter" for $1000 Alex. The Bills and Diggs both know he's here next year, and nothing else is even an option.
transient Posted February 4 Posted February 4 50 minutes ago, Einstein said: Yes and no. The full interview has many questions, spanning several topics. So obviously his answers vary depending on the topic. All of the answers you mentioned are not in response to the question of whether he thinks he will be back in Buffalo, so you are misrepresenting the interview a bit. Some questions are about the plays he wants back (as you mentioned the dropped passes), and another question is about his relationship with Josh (which he responds by not actually answering but instead talking about money and contracts which is odd because you should probably give a positive answer considering he is your friend and QB), and another question elicits the response about how he gets the same questions over and over (as you mention). But no - it’s not like all these answers were in response to the question of whether he thinks he will be in Buffalo next year. His initial response to that was “I don’t know”. You’re combining an entire interview of responses into one answer when it was actually several topics, and his opinion changed depending on the topic (which makes sense). Personally I think it’s interesting seeing the distribution of responses - on one side there is the media that definitely makes too much of it. Then on the other side there are fans like you that want to completely dismiss it all as absolutely nothing. I attempt to find the middle ground (sometimes failing but the middle is often where the truth lay). In my life experience it seems that so many find that middle ground impossible to look at. Honestly it’s not that hard to give a positive answer that leaves the media with nothing to grasp onto. 98% of NFL players figure it out. Diggs is smart. He could do it to if he wanted to. As others said, maybe it’s just a game to him and he likes messing with the media but it’s not really a game that benefits him (or the team) so I wish he just wouldn’t. Fans like you… Classic… 🤦♂️ You’re a self proclaimed Diggs fan; when has he EVER said something that was straightforward? Even when he’s giving the answers that people want to hear they’re wandering, meandering, hard to follow responses. At this point, I just assume it’s how he communicates. In this instance, in this 19s clip, what I hear is him saying, in response to a stupid, random question about whether he expects to be here next season, that he doesn’t know about the money and all that… presumably means cap related issues… says nothing is ever certain, which is true in the NFL… and then ends the interview saying as far as his side is concerned, he’s got no surprises for you (the reporter) and he’ll be himself next season, which I take to mean unless the FO does something out of his control he’ll be on the field in Buffalo and play his game. Same meandering, hard to follow responses he always gives with lots left to interpretation, most of the time leading to pointless hand wringing about what he’s really saying… or not saying. I think what this “fan like me” is really saying is this is the same old people hanging on every last meaningless word, trying to prognosticate what it all means so they can be the first to say “see, I told you so” in the event something does happen… and in doing so the same tired old💩gets blown out of proportion. I find it cringeworthy… kinda like when my wife watches an episode of any one of those godawful “Housewives of” nonsense shows when I’m in earshot. Gonna be a long offseason.
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