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I think Diggs is around for next season and maybe two.  I'm hoping Beane leaves Diggs' contract alone I.e. no restructure.  I don't pretend to know what's going on but the best plan for the Bills is to add a good young WR or two on the roster.  If they do that, it'll be easier to deal with Diggs and his contract.

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On 2/11/2024 at 2:56 AM, transplantbillsfan said:

Watched a couple Diggs interviews.

 

Honestly... I think he's just sick of people asking about it. I think he believes he clearly squashed any thought of him wanting out of Buffalo when in Training Camp he spoke glowingly of the Bills and said he wanted to retire a Bill.

 

Even his interviews now he says he doesn't want to be traded. He says he and Josh are family and Josh has done so much for him.

 

The whole "where there's smoke there's fire" statement came in the middle of him riffing.

 

We can't move Diggs.

 

We won't move Diggs.

 

Diggs will continue to be evasive all offseason because that's just how he is.

 

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At the end of the day, where is going to go, even if he wanted to be traded?  He wants to win a Super Bowl. Period.  He's made that abundantly clear that is his motivation.  What contender has the cap space to bring him on?

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Tannenbaum suggested a Diggs-Tyrique stevenson trade to Bears.  I have to say if we could flip Diggs for a starter on a rookie deal then bring in Mike Evans in free agency I’d give that some serious  thought.  

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Tannenbaum suggested a Diggs-Tyrique stevenson trade to Bears.  I have to say if we could flip Diggs for a starter on a rookie deal then bring in Mike Evans in free agency I’d give that some serious  thought.  

Why would the Bears do this?  

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lmao...this thread still going huh?  

 

Diggs:  I want to retire a Bill, I hope I get to stay, Josh is family.  

Beane:  Diggs is absolutely still a WR1 and shows no interest in moving on from him.

 

So then TSW:  Diggs is cryptic and is forcing a trade and Bills are going to do it despite the fact it will destroy their cap and neither Diggs or Beane seemed to want a trade.

 

TSW Offseason Logic never disappoints.  Its amazing to me how many people here just fall for media click bait beating a dead story over and over again.  Anything can happen, so a trade is not impossible, but all indications have been no trade both publicly from those involved and just the overall math of the cap situation Bills are in and the cap hits in all trade scenarios around Diggs.  

 

For a trade to happen, there would really need to be something insurmountable on the back end between Diggs and the team.  And until something like that surfaces, a trade seems pretty far fetched for a team looking to win this year.  

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20 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Tannenbaum suggested a Diggs-Tyrique stevenson trade to Bears.  I have to say if we could flip Diggs for a starter on a rookie deal then bring in Mike Evans in free agency I’d give that some serious  thought.  

So, you would seriously consider trading Diggs, creating $31M in dead cap space and then sign Evans (who is expected to see somewhere in the $20M-$25M a year zone) so we could bring in a player on a rookie deal at a position that is already pretty stacked. 

 

A few things. First off, now you see why Tannenbaum is on TV instead of in a front office. Guy is a grade A idiot. 

 

Second...what other moves in this fantasy scenario are you making to afford this? Starting a GoFundMe? 

 

The idea to eat dead cap in that substantial amount to get a guy on a rookie contract as the reward...kind of self defeating, no? 

 

Reminds me of my father in law that drives 2 hours out of his way (each way) to save 6 cents a gallon on gas. 

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35 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Tannenbaum suggested a Diggs-Tyrique stevenson trade to Bears.  I have to say if we could flip Diggs for a starter on a rookie deal then bring in Mike Evans in free agency I’d give that some serious  thought.  

This is why Tannenbaum doesn't have a NFL job!! 

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1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

So, you would seriously consider trading Diggs, creating $31M in dead cap space and then sign Evans (who is expected to see somewhere in the $20M-$25M a year zone) so we could bring in a player on a rookie deal at a position that is already pretty stacked. 

 

A few things. First off, now you see why Tannenbaum is on TV instead of in a front office. Guy is a grade A idiot. 

 

Second...what other moves in this fantasy scenario are you making to afford this? Starting a GoFundMe? 

 

The idea to eat dead cap in that substantial amount to get a guy on a rookie contract as the reward...kind of self defeating, no? 

 

Reminds me of my father in law that drives 2 hours out of his way (each way) to save 6 cents a gallon on gas. 

Trading Diggs vs keeping him on his current deal adds $3m to the 2024 cap.  Evans is unquestionably an upgrade to Diggs.  Evans even at $20m+ per year contract wouldn’t take up more than $10m in cap in 2024.  So for $13m more in cap you upgrade Diggs to Evans and add a starter to your secondary. It’s unlikely but not unthinkable.  

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I'm open to trading Diggs, eating the cap, and then drafting multiple WR's.. say RD1 and RD3.  

 

But trading Diggs and then signing a big name WR makes no cap sense. 

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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'm open to trading Diggs, eating the cap, and then drafting multiple WR's.. say RD1 and RD3.  

 

But trading Diggs and then signing a big name WR makes no cap sense. 

Trading Diggs would make an even bigger hole at the WR position. Simply add a reliable threat opposite Diggs and watch 2022 Diggs reappear. Had DHop been acquired, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Maybe we'd have a SB trophy at OBD

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11 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Trading Diggs vs keeping him on his current deal adds $3m to the 2024 cap.  Evans is unquestionably an upgrade to Diggs.  Evans even at $20m+ per year contract wouldn’t take up more than $10m in cap in 2024.  So for $13m more in cap you upgrade Diggs to Evans and add a starter to your secondary. It’s unlikely but not unthinkable.  

So, for a team that's already over $50M in the red pertaining to the cap, an extra $13M is no biggie. And where are you finding that extra $13M, keeping in mind we need to fill out a roster for camp, sign picks and have money open for in season moves during the season. 

 

And FWIW...Evans is very good but he's not an upgrade on Diggs. And Evans is very notable for not only his production...but hin inexplicable tendency to drop wide open passes. And it's all to add a CB...who isn't starting over Douglas or Benford. 

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46 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

lmao...this thread still going huh?  

 

Diggs:  I want to retire a Bill, I hope I get to stay, Josh is family.  

Beane:  Diggs is absolutely still a WR1 and shows no interest in moving on from him.

 

So then TSW:  Diggs is cryptic and is forcing a trade and Bills are going to do it despite the fact it will destroy their cap and neither Diggs or Beane seemed to want a trade.


The way the forum logic works is that every time someone respond to a thread, it "bumps" the thread up to the top of the page where more people see the thread and then click on it and post within it.

If *you* don't like a thread, here are your best options:

1) Don't click it. If you do not click on the thread title, you will not enter the thread. If you do not enter the thread, you won't have to be subjected to opinions that aggravate you so much.


2) If you don't have the willpower NOT to click the thread title, then the second best option is to NOT REPLY in the thread. Every time you reply in a thread you hate, you push it back towards the top of the page. If your goal is to make it go away, you should do the opposite of what you have done nearly 10 times in this thread - reply.

I hope I was able to help.

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36 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'm open to trading Diggs, eating the cap, and then drafting multiple WR's.. say RD1 and RD3.  

 

But trading Diggs and then signing a big name WR makes no cap sense. 

This is sort of where I’m at.  I have good reason to believe this guy is a difficult human.  People like that make for a bad work environment.   If we can remove him at fair value, replace him with young talent (draft two of them, maybe sign a vet on a one-year deal to be sort of the old guy in the room), and spread it out between Kincaid, Cook, Shakir, and the two new ones, then I’m good with the reboot.  It’s actually the far better play from a long-term cap perspective, and it might even be a wiser short-term play. 

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54 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

This is why Tannenbaum doesn't have a NFL job!! 

Thank you!  Yesterday on NFL Live, they were discussing the future of Russell Wilson and Tannenbaum suggested that the Jets should sign him to be Rodgers backup! He was serious!  When the other 3 panelists reminded him that Hackett was still the OC on the Jets...and that it was a disaster when the two of them were on Denver...he still thought it was a good idea.  Hannah Storm ended the segment thanking Tannenbaum for the good laugh!

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I swear people wanna trade Diggs just to have something to talk about. It's that drought mentality we suffered with for so many years. Diggs is still a number 1 receiver. Trading him away right now would only set this franchise back. We're in a win now situation. We're not building for the future (although to some extent teams are always doing that). We need to draft high round receivers (I want 2 personally). Surround Allen with weapons 

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27 minutes ago, Einstein said:


The way the forum logic works is that every time someone respond to a thread, it "bumps" the thread up to the top of the page where more people see the thread and then click on it and post within it.

If *you* don't like a thread, here are your best options:

1) Don't click it. If you do not click on the thread title, you will not enter the thread. If you do not enter the thread, you won't have to be subjected to opinions that aggravate you so much.


2) If you don't have the willpower NOT to click the thread title, then the second best option is to NOT REPLY in the thread. Every time you reply in a thread you hate, you push it back towards the top of the page. If your goal is to make it go away, you should do the opposite of what you have done nearly 10 times in this thread - reply.

I hope I was able to help.

 

Or...simply get rid of the cryptic nonsense in your title and just name the thread appropriately to be "Could the Bills trade Diggs if the right trade was available" or something than falsely painting Diggs in a negative light despite his very NON cryptic matter of fact statements that he wants to retire a Bill, hopes to remain here, and that Josh is family.  

 

You take no responsibility for manufacturing a false narrative for clicks...nor any responsibility for the many posters who now have this false idea Diggs wants to be traded and is cryptically trying to force his way out.  In fact that nonsense has already reared its head in other threads now and will do so all year.  

 

So someone has to remind people about the disservice you do the board when posting false narratives that spread false info across the board for your own LAMP post.  

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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Or...simply get rid of the cryptic nonsense in your title and just name the thread appropriately to be "Could the Bills trade Diggs if the right trade was available" or something than falsely painting Diggs in a negative light despite his very NON cryptic matter of fact statements that he wants to retire a Bill, hopes to remain here, and that Josh is family.  

 

You take no responsibility for manufacturing a false narrative for clicks...nor any responsibility for the many posters who now have this false idea Diggs wants to be traded and is cryptically trying to force his way out.  In fact that nonsense has already reared its head in other threads now and will do so all year.  

 

So someone has to remind people about the disservice you do the board when posting false narratives that spread false info across the board for your own LAMP post.  


Sigh. You are your own worst enemy.

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no trades...

 

I want Diggs and Mike Evans lined up at WR next year for the Bills, with a 1st or 2nd round rookie and Shakir as well, and maybe a proven decent vet guy like Beasley was when we signed him.

 

 

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