Should the Bills trade up for their own “Julio Jones”

[DJB]

  On 2/7/2024 at 10:41 PM, BarleyNY said:

 

Thanks. I’ll do that. How’s his separation?

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[Mr. WEO]

  On 2/7/2024 at 10:30 PM, Doc said:

 

No.  Why would I say that when he hasn't done it yet?  That would be like saying he has no aptitude..." which has been my point all along. 

 

And again, he traded for Diggs, drafted Davis and Shakir and signed Beasley and Brown.  To expect him to hit on every pick, especially Day 3 ones, and every FA signing is fanciful at best. 

 

Also remember that when Beane joined, the Bills had Sammy Watkins and had just drafted Zay Jones in the 2nd round.  Then they traded Watkins and in 2019 traded Jones when it was apparent neither were process guys. 

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So in 6 years... Davis and Shakir and that was fine?  There was never a need to invest another day 1 pick in a WR? 

 

Did Beane bring back Beasley and Brown for 2.0 because they were "process guys"?  Or because they were legit in-season additions?  They were awful.  What about Benjamin, Kerley, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Robert Foster, McKenzie, Terrell Pryor (lol), Duke Williams, Kumerow, Emanuel Sanders, Crowder, Brown/Beasley (again!!), Tanner Gentry, Harty, Sheffield?

 

"Process"??  Is it "we refuse to spend significant draft capital on WR, despite having the best passer in the NFL"?

 

Wouldn't you rather the Bills at least take a swing and a miss on a day 1 WR, rather than parade an endless string of bums through the building?  That's literally what they have done to the WR position, other than spending a 1st in trade for a few very good seasons of a WR1 (while his Vikings replacement has been running laps around him on a rookie contract (without a Josh Allen).  It's the easiest question ever proposed to you.

 

McD's work product at WR 6 years in will be Shakir, Diggs and (?).  That's laughable but sad. 

 

 

[Doc]

  On 2/7/2024 at 11:54 PM, Mr. WEO said:

So in 6 years... Davis and Shakir and that was fine?  There was never a need to invest another day 1 pick in a WR? 

 

Did Beane bring back Beasley and Brown for 2.0 because they were "process guys"?  Or because they were legit in-season additions?  They were awful.  What about Benjamin, Kerley, Andre Holmes, Deonte Thompson, Robert Foster, McKenzie, Terrell Pryor (lol), Duke Williams, Kumerow, Emanuel Sanders, Crowder, Brown/Beasley (again!!), Tanner Gentry, Harty, Sheffield?

 

"Process"??  Is it "we refuse to spend significant draft capital on WR, despite having the best passer in the NFL"?

 

Wouldn't you rather the Bills at least take a swing and a miss on a day 1 WR, rather than parade an endless string of bums through the building?  That's literally what they have done to the WR position, other than spending a 1st in trade for a few very good seasons of a WR1 (while his Vikings replacement has been running laps around him on a rookie contract (without a Josh Allen).  It's the easiest question ever proposed to you.

 

McD's work product at WR 6 years in will be Shakir, Diggs and (?).  That's laughable but sad.

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You're changing the argument, which was whether Beane has any aptitude at all.  He's drafted and brought in many good WRs.  Turnover happens in the NFL.  You know this.  So after 6 years it will be Diggs, Shakir and likely a 1st round WR.  To go with Kincaid, Knox and Cook as other receiving targets.

[Mr. WEO]

  On 2/8/2024 at 12:35 AM, Doc said:

 

You're changing the argument, which was whether Beane has any aptitude at all.  He's drafted and brought in many good WRs.  Turnover happens in the NFL.  You know this.  So after 6 years it will be Diggs, Shakir and likely a 1st round WR.  To go with Kincaid, Knox and Cook as other receiving targets.

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he hasn't.  so he really doesn't.  We've discussed the 1 guy he's drafted who may still be on the roster this coming year and I listed for you all the bums he brought in lieu of drafted WRs.  In all of that there is evidence he can't or won't adequately evaluate draft WRs or even the need for them.

 

this isn't hard to grasp.  

[Doc]

  On 2/8/2024 at 1:51 PM, Mr. WEO said:

he hasn't.  so he really doesn't.  We've discussed the 1 guy he's drafted who may still be on the roster this coming year and I listed for you all the bums he brought in lieu of drafted WRs.  In all of that there is evidence he can't or won't adequately evaluate draft WRs or even the need for them.

 

this isn't hard to grasp.  

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Yeah, he has.  Now you're just making a mockery of yourself.

[Mr. WEO]

  On 2/8/2024 at 8:59 PM, Doc said:

 

Yeah, he has.  Now you're just making a mockery of yourself.

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you've offered no evidence other than Shakir and the trade for Diggs.   

 

Strong work.

[Doc]

  On 2/8/2024 at 9:09 PM, Mr. WEO said:

you've offered no evidence other than Shakir and the trade for Diggs.   

 

Strong work.

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Oh boy...