TBBills Fan Posted February 3 Posted February 3 43 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: So was Frazier hired as a HC? No? Well, there's the answer. Great hire by the Seahawks. Getting a sound voice in the room with HC experience is a huge "get" for a rookie HC. Leslie is well liked and well respected by players. And contrary to how he's portrayed here he in an excellent coach, especially in gameplan ing and teaching. I believe he was a day 1 with McD as well. Many 1st time coaches look for someone with HC experience so they have a sounding board 1 Quote
MJS Posted February 3 Posted February 3 54 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Is this not worth a discussion? You know it’s TWO third round picks, right? If a minority defensive coordinator is hired to be a head coach, the team he left gets two third round picks. The question is if Frazier fits that description. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained It's not worth discussing because, 1) Frazier is not being hired as a head coach or GM, and 2) Frazier is not leaving the Bills. He left last year. 1 Quote
Let's Go Buffalo Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I'm glad for him. I've always had a lot of respect for Coach Frazier. 3 1 Quote
HardyBoy Posted February 3 Posted February 3 57 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: Oh I'm sure he's a great guy. Just didn't exude the killer personality you'd want out of your defense. Unless you like calm, measured, QB calming defensive pre-snap alignments and coverages. Then he's your guy. I mean he had 20 interceptions in 65 games played, including leading the 85 Bears in picks at 6 then blew out his knee and had to retire...as an undrafted player...I'd say whatever instinct and drive he has inside him is pretty freaking killer and competitive, but I do agree he's not rah rah and he seems like he'd rather jump on an inevitable mistake than give up plays trying to force one. 1 Quote
Behindenemylines Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Can feel the energy and excitement with this hire all the way o………sorry fell asleep even thinking about how boring this hire is. Quote
Bferra13 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, SydneyBillsFan said: For reasons I simply cannot understand he gets a lot of disrespect here, but I always viewed him as a gentleman and a person of the highest character. I sincerely hope that he enjoys success in Seattle. Dick Jauron was a helluva guy too! I think they both subscribed to the same d philosophy as well. I dont think anyone is questioning him being a great man. He is. Edited February 3 by Bferra13 1 Quote
somnus00 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I was told that he was only getting interviews because of the Rooney Rule. No way he's actually respected around the league for being a good coach. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, somnus00 said: I was told that he was only getting interviews because of the Rooney Rule. No way he's actually respected around the league for being a good coach. Looking at some of the HC hires this week, nothing would really surprise me about an assistant hire … Quote
Freddie's Dead Posted February 3 Posted February 3 My understanding is that Leslie Frazier was no longer under contract to the Bills. Since Frazier was essentially a free agent, we won't get squat for compensation. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Rigotz said: Is this not worth a discussion? You know it’s TWO third round picks, right? If a minority defensive coordinator is hired to be a head coach, the team he left gets two third round picks. The question is if Frazier fits that description. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-compensatory-picks-for-minority-coaches-and-executives-explained Gonna be a lot of upset people around here when Frazier lands a HC spot in 2025 and two 3rd round picks get sent to Seattle. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted February 3 Posted February 3 3 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said: For reasons I simply cannot understand he gets a lot of disrespect here, but I always viewed him as a gentleman and a person of the highest character. I sincerely hope that he enjoys success in Seattle. So do they but there's a reason they're not letting him call plays. Good teacher I guess. Quote
MJS Posted February 3 Posted February 3 2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: My understanding is that Leslie Frazier was no longer under contract to the Bills. Since Frazier was essentially a free agent, we won't get squat for compensation. We wouldn't anyways. He wasn't hired as a head coach or GM. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 3 Posted February 3 6 hours ago, ScotSHO said: Man, imagine the conservative in game decisions the Seahawks will exhibit this year. - Punts at the 35! Yes. - FG from 4 & 2! YES! - Not blitzing for an entire game! YES, GIVE ME MORE! The game he didn't blitz once he beat Patrick Mahomes. Just saying. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted February 3 Posted February 3 I'm happy for him. He's a good man and a good coach. 2 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 3 Posted February 3 4 hours ago, somnus00 said: I was told that he was only getting interviews because of the Rooney Rule. No way he's actually respected around the league for being a good coach. He is a really good coach. I have never known a guy get so much hate off a fanbse for good performance. Frazier was DC in Buffalo 6 years. He had 4 top ten defenses in 6 years. 3 of them were top 5. His only year outside the top 15 defensively was his first year - 2017 - when he was coordinating a defense starting Adolphus Washington, Preston Brown, Ramon Humber and Leonard Johnson. He is a damn good football coach and the disrespect he gets is totally ridiculous. 5 hours ago, TBBills Fan said: I believe he was a day 1 with McD as well. Many 1st time coaches look for someone with HC experience so they have a sounding board He'd have crossed over with MacDonald in Baltimore too so like when he came here it is a guy he knows as well. In fact I think MacDonald might even have been assistant DBs when Leslie was DBs coach for the Ravens right before the Bills hired him. 2 3 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted February 3 Posted February 3 6 hours ago, ScotSHO said: Oh I'm sure he's a great guy. Just didn't exude the killer personality you'd want out of your defense. Unless you like calm, measured, QB calming defensive pre-snap alignments and coverages. Then he's your guy. After this past season, I don't blame Frazier at all for any defensive struggles we had during his time here. It's McDermott's defense. Always has been. This year the defensive performance was identical to every year Frazier was here - Looked like the best defense in the league through the first month; suffered a mid-season slump that culminated in losing a chance at the #1 seed; rebounded in December; then inevitably collapsed in the playoffs when faced with real competition. That's been the narrative every year since 2020 and there's only one common denominator. I don't think Frazier is some defensive genius, and I'm not losing sleep over his exit, but he inspired and developed his players, and had the defense fighting hard on every snap. He wasn't responsible for the failures of the scheme. 2 1 2 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 3 Posted February 3 (edited) 12 hours ago, JoeF said: Likely an 8th rounder.... "It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice." A****** 🤨 * 😉😁 Edited February 3 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote
Danger Mouse Posted February 3 Posted February 3 Leslie Fraizer is a dude and I wish only good things for him. Glad someone has seen his worth. Quote
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