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On 2/1/2024 at 4:16 PM, Patrick Fitzryan said:

The most embarrassing day in Bills history in my lifetime (just turned 40) was the first game played in Toronto. Not only did our crappy, heartless team get rolled by Miami, you could hear audible "Let's Go Dolphins" chants from the crowd.

 

They took a home game away from Buffalo and put it in a different country, ironically giving the Dolphins a friendlier environment than they get when the Bills play them in Miami. It was such a disgrace.

 

As we are both Millennial Bills fans, I imagine responses here will cleave along generational lines.

 

"Embarrassing" can take many forms. Sure, they got killed in the Superbowl.  That's a bad game.  It happens. Bills aren't the only team to get blown out in the Superbowl.

 

The Bills CHOSE to remove home games from their fans, and play in Toronto.  That's indefensible.  

 

The entire post Mularkey drought deserves consideration for this though.  There's so many blunders.

  • Trading All-Pro LT Jason Peters in his young prime (probably a Hall of Famer)
  • Trading Marshawn Lynch in his young prime for peanuts (none of the return made any impact on Bills)
  • Games in Toronto, then extending the Toronto series, then giving yourself credit for ending the extension of the series a year after
  • Extending Dick Jauron
  • Signing Terrell Owens
  • The decision to redesign the jerseys & color scheme when Drew Bledsoe came to Buffalo
  • The coterie of powerful, shadowy, old, male executives at One Bills Drive during the drought who kept getting paychecks yet never took responsibility for any of the team's failures.  
    • Tom Modrak - what did he do all day? no like seriously what was his job there?
    • John Guy - same question as above
    • Bud Carpenter - used outdated injury treatments on players, was hesitant to oversight or change. Doug Marrone wanted to fire him, and the head coach DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO FIRE HIS TRAINER
    • Scott Berchtold - PR exec that ruled the press box with an iron fist. 
      • Remember when he denied "knowing anything about" that cancelled halftime celebration on the field for Ralph during the Browns 6-3 game?
      • There was controversy with the media when Troy Vincent broke JP Losman's leg at training camp. 
      • WGR 550's Paul Hamilton reported it very differently than the "company line" and it's caused tension between the two camps for years
    • Jeff Littman - mysterious financial advisor who was never available to the media
    • Jim Overdorf -  still employed?  Didn't he cut Troy Vincent without anyone else's knowledge?

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Peevo said:

 

As we are both Millennial Bills fans, I imagine responses here will cleave along generational lines.

 

"Embarrassing" can take many forms. Sure, they got killed in the Superbowl.  That's a bad game.  It happens. Bills aren't the only team to get blown out in the Superbowl.

 

The Bills CHOSE to remove home games from their fans, and play in Toronto.  That's indefensible.  

 

The entire post Mularkey drought deserves consideration for this though.  There's so many blunders.

  • Trading All-Pro LT Jason Peters in his young prime (probably a Hall of Famer)
  • Trading Marshawn Lynch in his young prime for peanuts (none of the return made any impact on Bills)
  • Games in Toronto, then extending the Toronto series, then giving yourself credit for ending the extension of the series a year after
  • Extending Dick Jauron
  • Signing Terrell Owens
  • The decision to redesign the jerseys & color scheme when Drew Bledsoe came to Buffalo
  • The coterie of powerful, shadowy, old, male executives at One Bills Drive during the drought who kept getting paychecks yet never took responsibility for any of the team's failures.  
    • Tom Modrak - what did he do all day? no like seriously what was his job there?
    • John Guy - same question as above
    • Bud Carpenter - used outdated injury treatments on players, was hesitant to oversight or change. Doug Marrone wanted to fire him, and the head coach DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO FIRE HIS TRAINER
    • Scott Berchtold - PR exec that ruled the press box with an iron fist. 
      • Remember when he denied "knowing anything about" that cancelled halftime celebration on the field for Ralph during the Browns 6-3 game?
      • There was controversy with the media when Troy Vincent broke JP Losman's leg at training camp. 
      • WGR 550's Paul Hamilton reported it very differently than the "company line" and it's caused tension between the two camps for years
    • Jeff Littman - mysterious financial advisor who was never available to the media
    • Jim Overdorf -  still employed?  Didn't he cut Troy Vincent without anyone else's knowledge?

 

Well done. What a ####show.  It really is essential to have an owner who wants to win above all else (not that that guarantees winning).  Just out of curiosity, took quick look at stats from SB 26 and 28 - 26 four INT’s and a lost fumble (six fumbles altogether!); 28 - two lost fumbles and one INT.  So in three consecutive SB’s, the Bills turned the ball over 17 times!  Average almost six turnovers per game. Incredible.  

Posted
21 hours ago, Peevo said:

 

As we are both Millennial Bills fans, I imagine responses here will cleave along generational lines.

 

"Embarrassing" can take many forms. Sure, they got killed in the Superbowl.  That's a bad game.  It happens. Bills aren't the only team to get blown out in the Superbowl.

 

The Bills CHOSE to remove home games from their fans, and play in Toronto.  That's indefensible.  

 

The entire post Mularkey drought deserves consideration for this though.  There's so many blunders.

  • Trading All-Pro LT Jason Peters in his young prime (probably a Hall of Famer)
  • Trading Marshawn Lynch in his young prime for peanuts (none of the return made any impact on Bills)
  • Games in Toronto, then extending the Toronto series, then giving yourself credit for ending the extension of the series a year after
  • Extending Dick Jauron
  • Signing Terrell Owens
  • The decision to redesign the jerseys & color scheme when Drew Bledsoe came to Buffalo
  • The coterie of powerful, shadowy, old, male executives at One Bills Drive during the drought who kept getting paychecks yet never took responsibility for any of the team's failures.  
    • Tom Modrak - what did he do all day? no like seriously what was his job there?
    • John Guy - same question as above
    • Bud Carpenter - used outdated injury treatments on players, was hesitant to oversight or change. Doug Marrone wanted to fire him, and the head coach DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO FIRE HIS TRAINER
    • Scott Berchtold - PR exec that ruled the press box with an iron fist. 
      • Remember when he denied "knowing anything about" that cancelled halftime celebration on the field for Ralph during the Browns 6-3 game?
      • There was controversy with the media when Troy Vincent broke JP Losman's leg at training camp. 
      • WGR 550's Paul Hamilton reported it very differently than the "company line" and it's caused tension between the two camps for years
    • Jeff Littman - mysterious financial advisor who was never available to the media
    • Jim Overdorf -  still employed?  Didn't he cut Troy Vincent without anyone else's knowledge?

 

I agree with a lot of that but I liked T.O.

 

From what I recall he was still pretty good on the field and not a cancer in the locker room.  Actually he still seems to speak fondly of his time here 

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