RyanC883 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 today's draft with a trade-up for Nabers. Actually really like this one. Trading up did not kill this years draft. Was able to double up on 2 great WRs, land an impact DT tandem, get a good safety tandem, and IOL help. Also a good Edge prospect. 2 3 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Dr. Who said: I like this a lot, but Sweat might be off our board now, and probably should be. Maybe plug Fiske or Jenkins in that slot. I see why now, but I can't judge. I made that mistake when I was young and dumb. Never made it again. Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 12 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: I see why now, but I can't judge. I made that mistake when I was young and dumb. Never made it again. Oh, I don't wish to be unnecessarily severe. Folks make mistakes, but you'd think this close to the day that could set you up for life, there would be more self-awareness and minimum prudence. Then again, youth is not really cautious that way. (And naturally, it could have grave repercussions for others.) Some here seem to believe Beane and McD won't even consider him now. I really don't know. I read somewhere that he has a reputation for partying. If there's a spark of common sense in him, this could be a wake up call. Edited April 8 by Dr. Who 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Assuming they would still take Sweat if he fell, here's a scenario. I used a 2025 3rd to move up for Legette. 37. Ladd McConkeyWR Georgia 51. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 69. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 98. Kiran AmegadjieOT Yale 133. Audric EstimeRB Notre Dame 144. Tykee SmithS Georgia 163. Jonah EllissEDGE Utah 168. Justin EboigbeDT Alabama 199. Joe Milton IIIQB Tennessee 200. Nehemiah PritchettCB Auburn 1 1 Quote
Ralonzo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Second post-draft mock, and this time while I was sitting back with my trade-back philosophy a funny thing happened. A guy fell. And fell and fell. And finally it was all I could stands and I couldn't stands no more. *** TRADE *** From BUF: #28, 2025 R2 From JAX: #17 PICK: 17 RND: 1 (BUF from JAX) Rome ODUNZE WR Washington I would have thrown in a 4th too, but this bluff got through. You know who the guy is. *** TRADE *** From BUF: #60 From ARI: #66, #104 PICK: 66 RND: 3 (BUF) Kingsley SUAMATAIA OT BYU Getting an early 4th is key here and we get the guy we'd have taken at 60 anyway. PICK: 104 RND: 4 (BUF) Cole BISHOP S Utah Rangy and smart safety fits the next biggest need for the team. PICK: 128 RND: 4 (BUF) Beaux LIMMER C Arkansas I'm fine with McGovern and Anderson at C but the value here is excellent. Kromer will get the best 5 out there. PICK: 134 RND: 4 (BUF) Jarrian JONES CB Florida State Our zone corner, previously discussed. PICK: 144 RND: 5 (BUF) Johnny WILSON WR Florida State This is Tariq Woolen stuff where an off-the-range athlete drops for reasons unknown. PICK: 160 RND: 5 (BUF) Nehemiah PRITCHETT CB Auburn At this point I'm looking for Beane's "explosive" traits, his 10 and 40 splits speaks to elite recovery speed. PICK: 163 RND: 5 (BUF) Myles COLE DE-EDGE Texas Tech Our sleeper Groot, previously discussed. PICK: 200 RND: 6 (BUF) Jordan JEFFERSON DT LSU Again, explosiveness (4.70 at 313lb) and the value here is nuts. PICK: 204 RND: 6 (BUF) Ryan FLOURNOY WR Southeast Missouri State Later rinse repeat. High level suddenness and high end traits needing coaching. 3 X WRs? Sure why not. PICK: 248 RND: 7 (BUF) Trevin WALLACE LB Kentucky Prospect for ST can really move, profiles a bit like Dorian Williams in being short, yet long. 1 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) The theme here was trading back, gaining some day 2 credit and then letting the draft come to me. It was scary waiting that long to take a WR but it was a reaction to some WR runs. Edited April 8 by 34-78-83 2 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 8 Posted April 8 PFN, couple trade backs. 28. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 66. Kris JenkinsDT Michigan 104. Cole BishopS Utah 128. Blake FisherOT Notre Dame 137. Javon SolomonEDGE Troy 144. Luke McCaffreyWR Rice 163. Zak ZinterOG Michigan 180. Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State 200. Nehemiah PritchettCB Auburn 248. Nathaniel WatsonLB Mississippi Stat 2 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted April 8 Posted April 8 If a defensive stud falls to 28 (like Chop Robinson below), we have to be open to the Bills letting the draft fall to them and maximizing value while adding great prospects at premier positions (DE, WR, etc). Ja'Lynn Polk at 60 is outstanding value for an unheralded guy who might be an awesome #2 type WR. This draft would benefit the org long term with a new favorite at LG, real rotational pieces at CB and DT and S and RB, and late round flyers on talented WR and OT. Could be eight guys who contribute meaningfully in first two years. LFG. 2 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 8 Posted April 8 MDD 28 Brian Thomas Jr. WR | LSU 63 Ruke Orhorhoro DL | Clemson TRADE 79 Christian Haynes IOL | UConn TRADE 94 Blake Fisher OT | Notre Dame TRADE 128 Braelon Allen RB | Wisconsin 132 Johnny Wilson WR | Florida State TRADE 133 Jarrian Jones CB | Florida State 144 Tip Reiman TE | Illinois 160 Kitan Oladapo S | Oregon State 2 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ralonzo said: Second post-draft mock, and this time while I was sitting back with my trade-back philosophy a funny thing happened. A guy fell. And fell and fell. And finally it was all I could stands and I couldn't stands no more. *** TRADE *** From BUF: #28, 2025 R2 From JAX: #17 PICK: 17 RND: 1 (BUF from JAX) Rome ODUNZE WR Washington I would have thrown in a 4th too, but this bluff got through. You know who the guy is. *** TRADE *** From BUF: #60 From ARI: #66, #104 PICK: 66 RND: 3 (BUF) Kingsley SUAMATAIA OT BYU Getting an early 4th is key here and we get the guy we'd have taken at 60 anyway. PICK: 104 RND: 4 (BUF) Cole BISHOP S Utah Rangy and smart safety fits the next biggest need for the team. PICK: 128 RND: 4 (BUF) Beaux LIMMER C Arkansas I'm fine with McGovern and Anderson at C but the value here is excellent. Kromer will get the best 5 out there. PICK: 134 RND: 4 (BUF) Jarrian JONES CB Florida State Our zone corner, previously discussed. PICK: 144 RND: 5 (BUF) Johnny WILSON WR Florida State This is Tariq Woolen stuff where an off-the-range athlete drops for reasons unknown. PICK: 160 RND: 5 (BUF) Nehemiah PRITCHETT CB Auburn At this point I'm looking for Beane's "explosive" traits, his 10 and 40 splits speaks to elite recovery speed. PICK: 163 RND: 5 (BUF) Myles COLE DE-EDGE Texas Tech Our sleeper Groot, previously discussed. PICK: 200 RND: 6 (BUF) Jordan JEFFERSON DT LSU Again, explosiveness (4.70 at 313lb) and the value here is nuts. PICK: 204 RND: 6 (BUF) Ryan FLOURNOY WR Southeast Missouri State Later rinse repeat. High level suddenness and high end traits needing coaching. 3 X WRs? Sure why not. PICK: 248 RND: 7 (BUF) Trevin WALLACE LB Kentucky Prospect for ST can really move, profiles a bit like Dorian Williams in being short, yet long. You moved up eleven spots for a 2025 2nd? What's the point of the mock if they are so outrageously out-of-touch with reality? I understand that one must accept a certain amount of credulous math, but that's too much. And then Odunze falling to #17 in the first place is highly unlikely. I think Johnny Wilson is a fifth-round pick. That's about where I think you can take a chance on him. I prefer Cornelius Johnson as a late rounder WR if he's there, but Flournoy is intriguing as well. I'd be surprised if Bishop is around past pick 100, but great if it happens. Tykee Smith is someone I like a bit later in round 4. Did you have a choice between Limmer and Bortolini? I think I prefer the latter, but that's a solid choice. Jordan Jefferson at 200 is another impossible happening. As you say, the value is nuts. Below was my attempt to see what would happen if you made a realistic trade up for a top 3 WR. It was expensive -- #28, 128, 2025 1st, 2nd, and 4th. I tried less and the model rejected it. So, I dunno, but just as ballpark, maybe it's indicative. The main point, I think, is if you go that way, you're not getting everything you'd like, and the second WR has to come late. It would have helped if the Machine was generous enough to offer Jordan Jefferson at 200. 9. Malik NabersWR LSU 60. Chris BraswellEDGE Alabama 133. Audric EstimeRB Notre Dame 144. Tykee SmithS Georgia 163. Gabe HallDT Baylor 200. Cornelius JohnsonWR Michigan 204. Khristian BoydDT Nothern Iowa 248. Frank CrumOT Wyoming Edited April 8 by Dr. Who 1 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted April 8 Posted April 8 21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: What did you trade away? Our entire 2025 draft, your wife's wedding ring and your soul? 3 Quote
MAJBobby Posted April 8 Posted April 8 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: What did you trade away? Our entire 2025 draft, your wife's wedding ring and your soul? 28th '25 1st '25 2nd Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 43 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 28th '25 1st '25 2nd If MHJ drops to 6, Giants won't trade the pick 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: If MHJ drops to 6, Giants won't trade the pick I know and even if they did what I gave up to get into the 6th spot and got additional picks this year would never happen either, that is the issue I think with alot of these MOCK sites is they do not play the trades realistically 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 4 Round Mock Traded with Saints for 14 (28, 2025 2nd, 4th) Traded with Panthers for 39 (60, 2025 2nd) Yes, we don't have any 2nd's in 2025 now....but we keep our 1st and get 2 BIG DAWGS for Josh Edited April 8 by Warriorspikes51 1 1 Quote
Yantha Posted April 8 Posted April 8 My "don't panic at WR" draft. I'm honing in on Audric Estime as a short yardage pounder that we need, youth-wise. He's bigger back that would be a nice addition. I'm liking Worthy as a top option due to speed and ability to be that threat downfield. Allen has the arm.... It would open up our passing game more and I think would also open up swing passes and KINCAID, who I see as a candidate for a MASSIVE year. If you're into fantasy.... get Kincaid. Bank on that one. 3 Quote
Yantha Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Did an analysis of the Chiefs' stats... We can beat them with two main differences. 1. Run heavy on them (they have a strong passing D, and weak rush D) 2. Invest in a stellar passing D and pass rush.... Let's play Marty ball.... (Schottenheimer...). Control the clock with a dominant run game and we have Allen's ability to strike deep when they stack the box.. Alternate reality draft: 1 Quote
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