Richard Noggin Posted April 2 Posted April 2 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Pay Justin Simmons and let’s roll!!! 1 hour ago, boyst said: Id take that in a heartbeat I mean, is there a Bills fan who would NOT take that early draft haul + the future picks? I don't love the 2nd WR or the 1st RB, but I DO love the b2b 2nd round DT and WR, even though that DT will be a rotational piece at best early on. The prospect of one of the rotational DEs making it (one of them probably ends up elsewhere, though) is nice, but there isn't much else to love unless that Penn State OC becomes essential depth (best case for him and team). So that 1st and 2nd round pick in 2025 is the real haul after those two essential 2024 pieces in rd 2. Trading back a little bit out of the first can be wildly lucrative long term, but risky in the short term. It's difficult lately for me to run a Bills mock and NOT take the bait on at least one or two trade back offers. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Am I just deluded for thinking the first 5 or 6 picks here should be contributors sooner rather than later? Of course at least one or more of them has to miss, statistically, but these seem like strong picks at positions of need and value. I think Robinson and Legette are potential game-changers. Interesting to consider such a sweeping defensive retooling while also adding a couple needed offensive pieces. 1 Quote
boyst Posted April 2 Posted April 2 7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: I mean, is there a Bills fan who would NOT take that early draft haul + the future picks? I don't love the 2nd WR or the 1st RB, but I DO love the b2b 2nd round DT and WR, even though that DT will be a rotational piece at best early on. The prospect of one of the rotational DEs making it (one of them probably ends up elsewhere, though) is nice, but there isn't much else to love unless that Penn State OC becomes essential depth (best case for him and team). So that 1st and 2nd round pick in 2025 is the real haul after those two essential 2024 pieces in rd 2. Trading back a little bit out of the first can be wildly lucrative long term, but risky in the short term. It's difficult lately for me to run a Bills mock and NOT take the bait on at least one or two trade back offers. i don't know for certain but i think Kirbs is in the camp of 2024 being a retool year. knowing, like many of us in this camp that our team isn't a top 4-6 talent. i think our goal should be much lower than the last 4-5 years. Win the East. Make the playoffs. Win a game. build depth. Go in 2025 in a decent cap space and if we have some extra premium picks than cool because this year has quality depth. Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Posted April 2 I really like Robinson as an inside/out player. End on early downs, inside on passing downs. The problem being as with all McDermott picks he'll have to earn his time, so drafting him that early means he'll make the team but his contribution year one, will be light. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 2 Posted April 2 8 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: I really like Robinson as an inside/out player. End on early downs, inside on passing downs. The problem being as with all McDermott picks he'll have to earn his time, so drafting him that early means he'll make the team but his contribution year one, will be light. This is where I like Maason Smith. 6'6" 315 can play anywhere and draws comps. to Calais Campbell. Could also have some Chris Jones to him. If we can get him at 128? Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Just now, nosejob said: This is where I like Maason Smith. 6'6" 315 can play anywhere and draws comps. to Calais Campbell. Could also have some Chris Jones to him. If we can get him at 128? I like that very much, Smith is perfect at that spot. Very athletic for his size, just needs the proper coaching and motivation. 1 Quote
nosejob Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Just now, ScorpionZero said: I like that very much, Smith is perfect at that spot. Very athletic for his size, just needs the proper coaching and motivation. Like Latu getting poopooed and falling to us, maybe the same will work for us with Smith...( bit of an injury history etc.) Can you imagine getting Latu, Sweat and Smith? Young , solid core of intimidating DLine for years. 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, nosejob said: Like Latu getting poopooed and falling to us, maybe the same will work for us with Smith...( bit of an injury history etc.) Can you imagine getting Latu, Sweat and Smith? Young , solid core of intimidating DLine for years. Oh, oh, something just happened in my pants. 2 Quote
nosejob Posted April 2 Posted April 2 8 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: Oh, oh, something just happened in my pants. Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Some minor trading compared to others. 33 Graham Barton IOL | Duke TRADE 60 Xavier Legette WR | South Carolina 101 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas TRADE 117 Jaden Hicks S | Washington State TRADE 128 Blake Fisher OT | Notre Dame 133 Mason McCormick IOL | South Dakota State 160 Will Shipley RB | Clemson 194 Luke McCaffrey WR | Rice TRADE 214 A.J. Barner TE | Michigan TRADE 1 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted April 2 Posted April 2 Traded ALL OVER the board going from 11 picks to 6 LOL 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted April 2 Posted April 2 I wonder how many draft picks this team thinks it can roster? If I am looking at the roster I am seeing 7-9 spots for rookies. QB- Josh and Mitch are there probably no room on the 53 will need a PS QB in case of emergency but that’s likely a UDFA or a late stage free agent. RB- This team carrier 3 RB’s plus a FB. Cook and Ty plus Gilliam at FB are locks easily room for a draft pick to be the RB3 and provide for depth and special teams. WR- Team usually carries 5-6 right now they have 4 locks in Diggs, Samuel, Shakir and Hollins with a probable player in Shorter. Room for 1 more if they want it. TE- This team usually carries 3 and the DK bros are locks while Morris is a probable. Maybe a late round pick to push Morris but not a clear spot here. Oline- They usually carry 9 you have Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence and Brown as starters with Van Denmark and Alex Anderson as locks for reserve spots. Clapp will also compete. Easily room for 1-2 picks here. DE- Team usually carries 6 and there’s 3 locks in AJE, Groot and Von with Kingsley Jonathan and Toohill there as back end competition. Easily room for 1-2 picks here. DT- Team usually carries 5 - Right now they have Oliver, Daquon and Jonathan as locks with Williams as back end depth and a fringe player. Easily room for 1-2 rookies. LB- Team usually carries 5 - Bernard, Morrow, Milano, and Dorian Williams are locks while I think Spector is a probable. Maybe room for late round competition for Spector but not a need. CB- Team usually carries 6 - Douglas, Elam, Benford, and Taron are locks. Easily room for 1-2 picks here depending on where they slot Cam Lewis. S- Team usually carries 5 - Rapp, Edwards, Hamlin and Lewis are here easily room for a pick here as they will likely want to develop someone behind Edwards. Punter and Kicker could also use competition but I don’t see them viewing it as a need to spend picks on. That’s about 9-10 slots by my count. 1RB, 1WR, 1OL, 1DE, 1DT, 1CB, and 1S and I think you could see a double dip at CB, DT, OL or DE. 2 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted April 3 Posted April 3 My first trade-UP. Cost me next year's 1st and a couple 4ths. Very happy with the results overall, but probably should have taken a couple modest mid-round tradebacks to win back some 2025 draft capital. 1 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 today's PFF: I like this draft. I really like the WR in Rd. 1 and 2 idea. Here, we have two potential stud X receivers. Burton may be a headcase, so that will depend. The backup WR here would be Million from Washington, who appears more of a slot. I like Hadden, the CB from Tenn, as PFF gives him a 90 zone coverage grade. Allen upgrades the RB room, Travis is a great backup project who can be traded for a higher round pick perhaps, Zinter goes higher if not hurt, and the edges posses some rotation potental. 1 Quote
34-78-83 Posted April 3 Posted April 3 I used our 1 and a 2 from next year as part of trades to maneuver into this result. Nubin also fell to 65 which I could not resist. Good interior OL depth which is where we need it with so much OT depth already on the team. And of course, Odunze, the cherry on top 1 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Posted April 4 28 Adonai Mitchell WR | Texas 39 Troy Franklin WR | Oregon 60 T'Vondre Sweat DL | Texas 65 Trey Benson RB | Florida State 80 Cooper Beebe IOL | Kansas State 101 Cole Bishop S | Utah 105 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas 149 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn 1 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted April 4 Posted April 4 28: R1 P28 WR Adonai Mitchell - Texas 60: R2 P28 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 128: R4 P28 WR Jalen McMillian - Washington 133: R4 P33 EDGE Javon Solomon - Troy 144: R5 P9 C Mason McCormick - South Dakota State 160: R5 P25 OT Garret Greenfield - South Dakota State 163: R5 P28 RB Isaac Guerendo - Louisville 196: R6 P20 DL Khristian Boyd - Northern Iowa 200: R6 P24 EDGE Austin Booker - Kansas 248: R7 P28 TE A.J. Barner - Michigan 3 Quote
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