Richard Noggin Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Having fun exploring what happens if the Bills DON'T obsess about WR early and instead go BPA. This draft would upset so many Bills fans, but wow what an immediate transformation of the d-line and secondary: 1 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Having fun exploring what happens if the Bills DON'T obsess about WR early and instead go BPA. This draft would upset so many Bills fans, but wow what an immediate transformation of the d-line and secondary: Newton is good. He's going to split time with Ed Oliver. Take the same draft and replace Newton with Mitchell, and it's excellent, and has more transformative capacity. Also, I keep seeing Lloyd around that pick. I'd rather grab Braelon Allen, but he's probably gone before then. I'd prefer Isaiah Davis or Dylan Laube at #134 if that was an option. Edited March 17 by Dr. Who 1 Quote
stuvian Posted March 17 Posted March 17 I don't know where OT Joe Alt is going to go but when he plays against us I'll be there with a CTRL, ALT, DELETE sign 2 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 17 Posted March 17 With Thomas and AD gone dropped back twice picking up quality not quantity. Balanced draft. 2 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Trade Recap Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 15 Indianapolis Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 107 New York Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 134 2024: Round 5, Pick 163 2024: Round 6, Pick 204 2024: Round 7, Pick 248 My Selections 15 Brian Thomas Jr. WR | LSU TRADE 107 Cole Bishop S | Utah TRADE 128 DeWayne Carter DL | Duke 144 Nehemiah Pritchett CB | Auburn 160 Mason McCormick IOL | South Dakota State 189 Jalyx Hunt EDGE | Houston Baptist 200 Isaac Guerendo RB | Louisville 1 1 Quote
BBFL Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 35 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: With Thomas and AD gone dropped back twice picking up quality not quantity. Balanced draft. Think if any, the first 2 are switched if you come away with them. Don’t want to keep believing or stating so but that Darius Robinson kid could be something. #60 as his landing spot is highly improbable, even #43… Edited March 17 by BBFL Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 17 Posted March 17 PFN updated their board for St. Patty's Day. This is my favorite so far. Traded back a bit to pick up a third. Don't care if folks don't like the double dip, etc. etc., it would be a great draft. BUF 30. Adonai MitchellWR Texas 60. Ladd McConkeyWR Georgia 93. Javon BullardS Georgia 128. DeWayne CarterDT Duke 134. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 144. Jordan JeffersonDT LSU 160. Cedric JohnsonEDGE Ole Miss 163. Jaylon CarliesS Missouri 189. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 200. Dylan McMahonOG NC State 204. Nehemiah PritchettCB Auburn 248. Anim DankwahOT Howard Quote
BBFL Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Also, for shts and giggles, ran one as Chicago… Buffalo gave up 28, 1st and 2nd in 2025 to get to 9. Drafted Odunze. Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) Latu was ranked 26th so I had to take him. Edited March 17 by ScorpionZero 1 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) Not exactly a mock draft, but I've been playing around with scenarios to get us a 3rd round pick back, using the DraftTek trade value chart. Here's two I've come up with: Scenario #1: Trade back from #28 to #36 with Washington. This makes sense for Washington because they also have pick #40, so I could see them wanting to get back into the 1st round rather than making two 2nd round picks in a row. In exchange we would get #100 from them (the last pick of the 3rd round), and a favorable late round swap - our #189 for their #139. Total trade value is 215 points given up for us, 216 points for them. Perfect. In this scenario our picks would look like this: R2 #4 R2 #28 - R3 #36 - R4 #28 R4 #34 - R5 #4 R5 #9 R5 #25 R5 #28 - R6 #24 R6 #28 - R7 #28 Knowing Beane, he would use a couple of those 5th rounders to trade up higher in R3 or R4, or perhaps one of the 4th rounders to move up higher in R2. This is my preferred scenario. I think at least one of the 1st round caliber WRs will still be on the board at #36 because of how strong the class is. But perhaps Beane really loves a WR on the board at #28 and doesn't want to risk losing them, which I could forgive. In that case... Scenario #2: Trade back from #60 to #66 with Arizona. Once again this makes sense for Arizona because they still have two other picks in the 3rd round. They would end up with two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds with this trade. Good haul for a rebuilding team. In exchange we get their #104 for our #128. Total trade value is 107 points given up for us, 109 points given up for them. Again, pretty much perfect. This scenario would also feature a trade up back into the 3rd round with a different team, using #104 that we got from Arizona. I look at Tampa Bay as a good option because they have minimal day three picks, zero in the 5th round actually. We get #92 in exchange for #104 and #163. This is an equal trade value of 43 points for both sides. In this scenario our picks would look like this: R1 #28 - R3 #2 R3 #28 - R4 #34 - R5 #9 R5 #25 - R6 #13 R6 #24 R6 #28 - R7 #28 Also while doing this exercise I discovered that I have way too much free time. Edited March 17 by HappyDays 2 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted March 17 Posted March 17 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Not exactly a mock draft, but I've been playing around with scenarios to get us a 3rd round pick back, using the DraftTek trade value chart. Here's two I've come up with: Scenario #1: Trade back from #28 to #36 with Washington. This makes sense for Washington because they also have pick #40, so I could see them wanting to get back into the 1st round rather than making two 2nd round picks in a row. In exchange we would get #100 from them (the last pick of the 3rd round), and a favorable late round swap - our #189 for their #139. Total trade value is 215 points given up for us, 216 points for them. Perfect. In this scenario our picks would look like this: R2 #4 R2 #28 - R3 #36 - R4 #28 R4 #34 - R5 #4 R5 #9 R5 #25 R5 #28 - R6 #24 R6 #28 - R7 #28 Knowing Beane, he would use a couple of those 5th rounders to trade up higher in R3 or R4, or perhaps one of the 4th rounders to move up higher in R2. This is my preferred scenario. I think at least one of the 1st round caliber WRs will still be on the board at #36 because of how strong the class is. But perhaps Beane really loves a WR on the board at #28 and doesn't want to risk losing them, which I could forgive. In that case... Scenario #2: Trade back from #60 to #66 with Arizona. Once again this makes sense for Arizona because they still have two other picks in the 3rd round. They would end up with two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds with this trade. Good haul for a rebuilding team. In exchange we get their #104 for our #128. Total trade value is 107 points given up for us, 109 points given up for them. Again, pretty much perfect. This scenario would also feature a trade up back into the 3rd round with a different team, using #104 that we got from Arizona. I look at Tampa Bay as a good option because they have minimal day three picks, zero in the 5th round actually. We get #92 in exchange for #104 and #163. This is an equal trade value of 43 points for both sides. In this scenario our picks would look like this: R1 #28 - R3 #2 R3 #28 - R4 #34 - R5 #9 R5 #25 - R6 #13 R6 #24 R6 #28 - R7 #28 Also while doing this exercise I discovered that I have way too much free time. What do you make of the news that the Bills have a private work out with Troy Franklin? I had dropped him a round after his terrible Combine and coming in lighter and shorter than expected. Apparently he was ill right before or at the Combine, and is back to 180 lbs. Quote
BBFL Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) 25 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Not exactly a mock draft, but I've been playing around with scenarios to get us a 3rd round pick back, using the DraftTek trade value chart. Here's two I've come up with: Scenario #1: Trade back from #28 to #36 with Washington. This makes sense for Washington because they also have pick #40, so I could see them wanting to get back into the 1st round rather than making two 2nd round picks in a row. In exchange we would get #100 from them (the last pick of the 3rd round), and a favorable late round swap - our #189 for their #139. Total trade value is 215 points given up for us, 216 points for them. Perfect. In this scenario our picks would look like this: R2 #4 R2 #28 - R3 #36 - R4 #28 R4 #34 - R5 #4 R5 #9 R5 #25 R5 #28 - R6 #24 R6 #28 - R7 #28 Knowing Beane, he would use a couple of those 5th rounders to trade up higher in R3 or R4, or perhaps one of the 4th rounders to move up higher in R2. This is my preferred scenario. I think at least one of the 1st round caliber WRs will still be on the board at #36 because of how strong the class is. But perhaps Beane really loves a WR on the board at #28 and doesn't want to risk losing them, which I could forgive. In that case... Scenario #2: Trade back from #60 to #66 with Arizona. Once again this makes sense for Arizona because they still have two other picks in the 3rd round. They would end up with two 1sts, two 2nds, and two 3rds with this trade. Good haul for a rebuilding team. In exchange we get their #104 for our #128. Total trade value is 107 points given up for us, 109 points given up for them. Again, pretty much perfect. This scenario would also feature a trade up back into the 3rd round with a different team, using #104 that we got from Arizona. I look at Tampa Bay as a good option because they have minimal day three picks, zero in the 5th round actually. We get #92 in exchange for #104 and #163. This is an equal trade value of 43 points for both sides. In this scenario our picks would look like this: R1 #28 - R3 #2 R3 #28 - R4 #34 - R5 #9 R5 #25 - R6 #13 R6 #24 R6 #28 - R7 #28 Also while doing this exercise I discovered that I have way too much free time. That’s awesome and I’m with you on the preferred scenario. Hopefully if the trade up doesn’t happen and value is limited @ 28 they execute something similar. Edited March 17 by BBFL Quote
BBFL Posted March 17 Posted March 17 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Wouldn’t be mad at that at all… 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted March 17 Posted March 17 11 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: What do you make of the news that the Bills have a private work out with Troy Franklin? I had dropped him a round after his terrible Combine and coming in lighter and shorter than expected. Apparently he was ill right before or at the Combine, and is back to 180 lbs. I didn't see the report until you mentioned it just now but it makes sense. I'm sure we are fully scouting and vetting every WR likely to go between picks 20 and 40. I'll admit I'm not as high on Franklin as I was when I first looked into the WR class. His size does concern me a bit, especially since our WRs have had annual issues winning against physical coverage in the playoffs. So I think I have decided I would prefer Coleman or Leggette over him. But it is a slight preference. Franklin's play speed and route running still excite me. And those are my top 3 WR choices for sure, I don't see my opinion on that changing between now and draft day. Any WR we take besides those 3 I will be somewhat less excited about, although still satisfied that we drafted a WR. 1 1 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I had to trade next years first to get Washington’s 2 seconds and a third next season. Got another third next year in a trade with Seattle. My first 3 picks Quote
Bigvinny Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 Fanspeak, draft diamonds big board. 28: R1 P28 WR Troy Franklin - Oregon 60: R2 P28 S Tyler Nubin - Minnesota 128: R4 P28 DL Dewayne Carter - Duke 134: R4 P34 WR Jamari Thrash - Louisville 144: R5 P9 C Kingsley Eguakun - Florida 160: R5 P25 EDGE Jalyx Hunt - Houston Christian 163: R5 P28 DL Keith Randolph - Illinois 196: R6 P20 CB Deantre Prince - Mississippi 200: R6 P24 OT Garret Greenfield - South Dakota State 204: R6 P28 EDGE Javontae Jean-Baptiste - Notre Dame 248: R7 P28 RB Frank Gore Jr. - Southern Miss Quote
hjnick Posted March 18 Posted March 18 6 hours ago, ScorpionZero said: Latu was ranked 26th so I had to take him. beebe will solidify that line if McGovern goes to Center. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 18 Posted March 18 Skipped over Coleman, Mitchell, Worthy, plus Newton and DeJean at 28 in favor of a trade-back for two 2nd rounders. Just to see. And to be honest, I really like the results. 12 dudes won't make the 53, but this draft beefs up several pipelines (WR, RB, DT, S) and adds solid depth at IOL, CB, and DE. 2 Quote
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