Special K Posted February 29 Posted February 29 Traded 28 to GB for 41 and 58 41. Troy Franklin WR Oregon 58. Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky 60. McKinnley Jackson DT Texas A&M 100. Maason Smith DT LSU 2 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Posted March 1 35. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. Ben SinnottTE Kansas State 90. Blake CorumRB Michigan 100. Maason SmithDT LSU 129. Cam HartCB Notre Dame 159. Keith Randolph Jr.DT Illinois 162. Mohamed KamaraEDGE Colorado State 198. Trey TaylorS Air Force 202. Jalyx HuntEDGE Houston Christian 206. Sione VakiS Utah 246. Ryan FlournoyWR SE Missouri State 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Posted March 1 28 Byron Murphy DL | Texas 60 Braden Fiske DL | Florida State 99 Calen Bullock S | USC 129 Cade Stover TE | Ohio State 159 Javon Solomon EDGE | Troy 162 Luke McCaffrey WR | Rice 198 Cedric Johnson EDGE | Mississippi 202 Isaac Guerendo RB | Louisville 206 Ryan Flournoy WR | Southeast Missouri State 246 Jaylon Carlies S | Missouri 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Wow would many of you HATE this one. Those first two picks are DUDES, though. 1 Quote
Success Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said: Wow would many of you HATE this one. Those first two picks are DUDES, though. Yeah - this one won't do at all. 2 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Trading back out of the first is like a cheat code with PFN's simulator. Stupid value all over the place in this mock. Sign me up. 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Posted March 1 39. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. McKinnley JacksonDT Texas A&M 70. Austin BookerEDGE Kansas 100. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 159. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 162. Trey TaylorS Air Force 198. Evan WilliamsS Oregon 202. Mohamed KamaraEDGE Colorado State 206. Joe MiltonQB Tennessee 246. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 2025 KC 2nd 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: 39. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. McKinnley JacksonDT Texas A&M 70. Austin BookerEDGE Kansas 100. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 159. Tanor BortoliniOC Wisconsin 162. Trey TaylorS Air Force 198. Evan WilliamsS Oregon 202. Mohamed KamaraEDGE Colorado State 206. Joe MiltonQB Tennessee 246. Isaac GuerendoRB Louisville 2025 KC 2nd Who did KC get with our 1st rd pick? Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Really like the prospects chosen in this one, with one trade back out of the 2nd rd. Those b2b LSU DTs are pretty cool. 2 1 Quote
wppete Posted March 1 Posted March 1 28: R1 P28 DL Byron Murphy - Texas 60: R2 P28 WR Xavier Legette - South Carolina 98: R3 P34 WR Johnny Wilson - FSU 128: R4 P28 S Tykee Smith - Georgia 161: R5 P25 EDGE Marshawn Kneeland - Western Michigan 164: R5 P28 LB Trevin Wallace - Kentucky 195: R6 P20 G Joshua Gray - Oregon State 199: R6 P24 C Dylan McMahon - NC State 203: R6 P28 CB Zy Alexander - LSU 247: R7 P28 WR Drake Stoops - Oklahoma 2 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 🚨🚨Pump the brakes lol on Pro Football Network's simulator🚨🚨 Did a little experiment where I did NOT choose a team and just let the entire draft run, and here are Buffalo's picks (they did not trade at all). I don't think the logic of this model is buttoned up, exactly. 2 CBs and 4 Ss, and 2 RBs. Bills gonna play a 3-2-6 or even 2-2-7 defense in 2024, apparently. Kool-Aid McKinstry - CB Cole Bishop - S Blake Corum - RB DeWayne Carter - DT Demani Richardson - S Ray Davis - RB Trey Taylor - S Jay Stanley - S Jarvis Brownlee - CB Khari Coleman - LB 1 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 10 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: 🚨🚨Pump the brakes lol on Pro Football Network's simulator🚨🚨 Did a little experiment where I did NOT choose a team and just let the entire draft run, and here are Buffalo's picks (they did not trade at all). I don't think the logic of this model is buttoned up, exactly. 2 CBs and 4 Ss, and 2 RBs. Bills gonna play a 3-2-6 or even 2-2-7 defense in 2024, apparently. Kool-Aid McKinstry - CB Cole Bishop - S Blake Corum - RB DeWayne Carter - DT Demani Richardson - S Ray Davis - RB Trey Taylor - S Jay Stanley - S Jarvis Brownlee - CB Khari Coleman - LB 2nd automated mock I ran resulted in 4 safeties again. Funny stuff. 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 1 Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Success said: Yeah - this one won't do at all. Right. I’d hate this with everything I have 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Trading back out of the first is like a cheat code with PFN's simulator. Stupid value all over the place in this mock. Sign me up. Much better. I don’t like the RB. But everything else is awesome 1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said: Really like the prospects chosen in this one, with one trade back out of the 2nd rd. Those b2b LSU DTs are pretty cool. Like this one even more. What’s with the early rd RBs tho? If they take a 3rd round RB again I’ll rip my tv off the wall. I agree we need a body there but Cook has proven capable and shouldn’t spend the resources on one so early with all the needs we have 3 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Who did KC get with our 1st rd pick? It wasn't Thomas, that's for sure. 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted March 1 Posted March 1 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 31 2024: Round 2, Pick 63 2024: Round 4, Pick 132 San Francisco Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 130 2024: Round 5, Pick 166 Minnesota Receives: 2024: Round 4, Pick 129 My Selections 31 Troy Franklin WR | Oregon TRADE 60 Braden Fiske DL | Florida State 63 Calen Bullock S | USC TRADE 99 Austin Booker EDGE | Kansas 130 Tykee Smith S | Georgia TRADE 132 Ben Sinnott TE | Kansas State TRADE 159 Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE | Washington 162 Andrew Raym IOL | Oklahoma 166 Jordan Jefferson DL | LSU TRADE 198 Isaac Guerendo RB | Louisville 202 J.D. Bertrand LB | Notre Dame 206 Dwight McGlothern CB | Arkansas 246 Anthony Gould WR | Oregon State 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted March 1 Posted March 1 3 hours ago, mrags said: Right. I’d hate this with everything I have Much better. I don’t like the RB. But everything else is awesome Like this one even more. What’s with the early rd RBs tho? If they take a 3rd round RB again I’ll rip my tv off the wall. I agree we need a body there but Cook has proven capable and shouldn’t spend the resources on one so early with all the needs we have Value was only screaming RB or LB, if I recall. Cook is halfway through his rookie deal already, and isn't the best blocker or short yardage, power back. Love Cook's talent, but there is a need for a complimentary guy who has some traits. And, in the event of injury, another guy who can attack defenses. (That being said, don't love Estime's feet tbh.) The draft is for adding cost-controlled talent on a longer timeline than next season. The Bills currently have NOTHING in the RB pipeline behind Cook. (And yet, I understand how unpopular a 3rd rd RB pick would be.) 1 Quote
mrags Posted March 1 Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Value was only screaming RB or LB, if I recall. Cook is halfway through his rookie deal already, and isn't the best blocker or short yardage, power back. Love Cook's talent, but there is a need for a complimentary guy who has some traits. And, in the event of injury, another guy who can attack defenses. (That being said, don't love Estime's feet tbh.) The draft is for adding cost-controlled talent on a longer timeline than next season. The Bills currently have NOTHING in the RB pipeline behind Cook. (And yet, I understand how unpopular a 3rd rd RB pick would be.) I understand all of that. Except you are almost hoping you can get someone that plays significant time with the 3rd pick. At least this year with our holes and needs. Could take a RB in rd 5 or after to come in and do what you’re hoping. JMO 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 1 Posted March 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, mrags said: I understand all of that. Except you are almost hoping you can get someone that plays significant time with the 3rd pick. At least this year with our holes and needs. Could take a RB in rd 5 or after to come in and do what you’re hoping. JMO While that is true the 3rd round is also a place where you still don't reach down a tier to take a position you need. Obviously for this exercise we are all using the simulator's draftboard as if it were our own so to play that out in round one I never reach beyond the top 5 players on their board. Round 2 not beyond the top 8 and rounds 3 and 4 not beyond the top 10. After that I give myself a little more leeway because that is realistic. Once you get to rounds 5 through 7 teams are looking at their rosters and saying "where might these guys have the best chance to stick." But earlier reaching through tiers is a no-no. So you have to either take trades and move back, trade UP or sometimes take a position that isn't necessarily a need. I say all that as someone who also does not want yet ANOTHER day 2 pick on a running back. When you have an established starter at the spot that should be a no-no too. I normally try and do a 4 round mock in the final day or two of the run up where I use the simulator but use my own board and mark guys off in the background as it goes. Edited March 1 by GunnerBill 2 Quote
mrags Posted March 1 Posted March 1 25 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: While that is true the 3rd round is also a place where you still don't reach down a tier to take a position you need. Obviously for this exercise we are all using the simulator's draftboard as if it were our own so to play that out in round one I never reach beyond the top 5 players on their board. Round 2 not beyond the top 8 and rounds 3 and 4 not beyond the top 10. After that I give myself a little more leeway because that is realistic. Once you get to rounds 5 through 7 teams are looking at their rosters and saying "where might these guys have the best chance to stick." But earlier reaching through tiers is a no-no. So you have to either take trades and move back, trade UP or sometimes take a position that isn't necessarily a need. I say all that as someone who also does not want yet ANOTHER day 2 pick on a running back. When you have an established starter at the spot that should be a no-no too. I normally try and do a 4 round mock in the final day or two of the run up where I use the simulator but use my own board and mark guys off in the background as it goes. I like the idea of picking players not outside the top available at the time. I don’t go by that generally because for example, if a QB is there we aren’t taking one. And while I do see the point of it as taking the best football players available at the time I also have an issue with it if you already have someone at that position, OR if it’s a position that can generally be found later in the draft. RBs are a dime a dozen and have short shelf life’s. I get the idea of continuing to draft one. Hell, almost all my mocks have Jawhar Jordan in them. I love the kid. But I also wouldn’t reach earlier than rd5 to do it. It’s not that I don’t think a certain player may not be good enough, it’s the holes and needs we have vs the resources to get them all. Quote
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