ScorpionZero Posted February 23 Posted February 23 29. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 60. McKinnley JacksonDT Texas A&M 100. Javon SolomonEDGE Troy 129. Tyler NubinS Minnesota 159. Malachi MooreS Alabama 162. Jacob CowingWR Arizona 198. Sean MartinEDGE West Virginia 202. Keith Randolph Jr.DT Illinois 206. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 246. Joe MiltonQB Tennessee 247. Dylan LaubeRB New Hampshire 3 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted February 23 Posted February 23 28: R1 P28Â WR Troy Franklin - Oregon 60: R2 P28Â EDGE Brandon Dorlus - Oregon 98: R3 P34Â DL McKinnley Jackson - Texas A&M 128: R4 P28Â S Tykee Smith - Georgia 161: R5 P25Â S Evan Williams - Oregon 164: R5 P28Â DL Keith Randolph Jr. - Illinois 195: R6 P20Â EDGE Javon Solomon - Troy 199: R6 P24Â C Tanor Bortolini - Wisconsin 203: R6 P28Â TE Theo Johnson - Penn State 247: R7 P28Â RB Dylan Laube - New Hampshire 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 23 Posted February 23 7 hours ago, ScorpionZero said: 28: R1 P28 WR Troy Franklin - Oregon 60: R2 P28 EDGE Brandon Dorlus - Oregon 98: R3 P34 DL McKinnley Jackson - Texas A&M 128: R4 P28 S Tykee Smith - Georgia 161: R5 P25 S Evan Williams - Oregon 164: R5 P28 DL Keith Randolph Jr. - Illinois 195: R6 P20 EDGE Javon Solomon - Troy 199: R6 P24 C Tanor Bortolini - Wisconsin 203: R6 P28 TE Theo Johnson - Penn State 247: R7 P28 RB Dylan Laube - New Hampshire  Just based on your last two efforts I like Jackson at #98 a lot better than I like him at #60. I don't like Dorlus as a scheme fit for the Bills though. He is a 5tech who needs to play defensive end in a 3-4 IMO. 1 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Thought I'd post this one because it started quite differently and that kind of forced it to go away from some of the standard picks we have seen in these:  28. Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA - He was still there and my golden rule in the draft is never reach down a tier just for need. If you want to reach within a tier of prospects to take a guy you have graded slightly lower because you have a need at the position, fine. There will be questions about Latu's health situation but on the basis that he doesn't get red flagged he is a top tier prospect in this class. The Bills do have expiring contracts at edge as well so while it isn't the #1 need it is a need.  ***TRADE!!! Bills give up #60 (2nd round); #129 (4th round); and #162 (5th round) for #52 (2nd round) and #212 (6th round)*** 52. Xavier Legette, Wide Receiver, South Carolina - People know I am higher than the consensus on Legette but my plan wasn't to trade up for him until the run on receivers started. By #50 ELEVEN receivers were off the board. Legette and Polk were the only two of all the guys we have talked about ad nauseum on this board left. Legette has future #1 receiver ceiling and I don't think Polk does. Polk went two picks later to the Browns making it 13 in the first 54 picks.  100. Dominick Puni, Guard, Kansas - I wasn't necessarily looking to take an offensive lineman here but the way the board fell Puni made most sense. I think end of the third is about his range. He is an older prospect (turns 24 tomorrow) and has played six years of college football. What that means is he is coming out pretty much the finished article in terms of physical profile but I like him technically and while I think he starts in the NFL at guard (maybe making McGovern an option at center if the Bills move on from Mitch Morse?) he played left tackle for Kansas and could definitely get you out of a game there if you needed him to.  ***TRADE!!! Bills give up #159 (5th round); and #212 (6th round) for #151 (5th round)*** 151. Keith Randolph Jnr, Defensive Tackle, Illinois - I started trying to move up to target a receiver (Jermaine Burton was still on the board) but he went right before I was able to find a trade that worked. I decided to still pull the trigger and target Randolph who is a really physical run defender despite not being the biggest guy ever and I think could end up as a starting 1tech in the league.  198. Zion Tupuola- Fetui, Edge, Washington - Another older prospect and not someone I'd necessarily consider value earlier in the draft because he has limited second contract potential and is probably a backup / rotational player rather than a starter. But as a 6th round flier I think he has more natural talent than a lot of the guys left on the board at this spot. I'll use his cheap rookie contract years up as a low price DLine backup then let him walk.  202. Anthony Gould, Wide Receiver, Oregon State - I finally got a second receiver but he isn't really a receiver he is a return specialist. Even though he had 700 yards as a receiver in his final year in college at 5'8 his NFL ceiling is probably an Isaiah McKenzie type returner combined with some gimmick use in the offense. He had two punt return touchdowns in college and followed that up with one in the Shrine Bowl game. The Bills two return man options on the current roster are both expensive. Gould allows you to get cheaper at that spot.  206. Joe Milton, Quarterback, Tennessee - I have picked Milton in almost every one of these I've done. I am clear the Bills should take a swing on a toolsy Quarterback with one of their late day 3 picks in the hope of ending up with a cheap backup if not immediately then certainly after a year on the practice squad as a rookie.  246. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Safety, Texas Tech - This was the first time the value at safety lined up with where I was picking. I actually think he is a fit for the Bills scheme based on my limited exposure to him. He looks like a zone safety. I have seen a fair few people grade him as an early day three pick so in the 7th round he represents value and even if he doesn't become an every down starter his coverage skills make him a legit candidate to play in dime packages.   Not necessarily saying I love this draft, I am disappointed not to get a viable developmental safety and second receiver earlier, but in terms of an interesting draft that fell differently than a lot of the others on here I thought worth posting and talking through.   5 1 3 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted February 23 Posted February 23 This has got to be my favorite mock draft so far. I traded down early twice to collect top 100 picks. Both trades were offered by the software. I then instigated two trades up later in the draft to keep the list at 11 picks. I ended up with two really good ex-bulldog receivers, one for his height and hands and one for his speed with decent size. I also drafted 3 DLinemen and 2 safeties to add depth to the D both short and long-term. I'm also thrilled with getting Van Pran, a future starting center, at the end the 3rd rd.   Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 31 2024: Round 2, Pick 63 2024: Round 3, Pick 94 2025: Round 4 2025: Round 5 San Francisco Receives: 2024: Round 1, Pick 28 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 6, Pick 193 Indianapolis Receives: 2024: Round 6, Pick 198 2024: Round 7, Pick 246 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 64 2024: Round 3, Pick 95 2025: Round 4 Kansas City Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 6, Pick 180 Carolina Receives: 2024: Round 6, Pick 202 2024: Round 6, Pick 206 My Selections 31 Adonai Mitchell WR | Texas TRADE 63 Javon Bullard S | Georgia TRADE 64 Ruke Orhorhoro DL | Clemson TRADE 94 Jonah Elliss EDGE | Utah TRADE 95 Sedrick Van Pran IOL | Georgia TRADE 99 Jermaine Burton WR | Alabama 129 Christian Jones OT | Texas 159 Jaylen Wright RB | Tennessee 162 Jarvis Brownlee Jr. CB | Louisville 180 Justin Eboigbe DL | Alabama TRADE 193 Jordan Travis QB | Florida State TRADE 1 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Kept trading down from #28 because I knew the current PFN board has Legette rated ridiculously low. As a result, ended up with a lot of nice relatively early picks. It's still a bad draft for edge players, so only picked up that fella from Western Michigan that seems to have generated some buzz, but this is a pretty good haul. Also, lots of folks have the ND LB Liufau rated way higher, so I don't know why he is always a late day 3 pick on this board. Â 44. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 66. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 88. Cole BishopS Utah 100. DeWayne CarterDT Duke 116. Marshawn KneelandEDGE Western Michigan 129. Malik WashingtonWR Virginia 132. Khyree JacksonCB Oregon 134. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 137. Tykee SmithS Georgia 162. Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State 168. Marist LiufauLB Notre Dame 206. Garret GreenfieldOT South Dakota State 1 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 24 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Kept trading down from #28 because I knew the current PFN board has Legette rated ridiculously low. As a result, ended up with a lot of nice relatively early picks. It's still a bad draft for edge players, so only picked up that fella from Western Michigan that seems to have generated some buzz, but this is a pretty good haul. Also, lots of folks have the ND LB Liufau rated way higher, so I don't know why he is always a late day 3 pick on this board.  44. T'Vondre SweatDT Texas 66. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 88. Cole BishopS Utah 100. DeWayne CarterDT Duke 116. Marshawn KneelandEDGE Western Michigan 129. Malik WashingtonWR Virginia 132. Khyree JacksonCB Oregon 134. Beaux LimmerOC Arkansas 137. Tykee SmithS Georgia 162. Isaiah DavisRB South Dakota State 168. Marist LiufauLB Notre Dame 206. Garret GreenfieldOT South Dakota State getting Sweat and Carter would be quite nasty! 2 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted February 24 Posted February 24 28. Troy FranklinWR Oregon 68. Ruke OrhorhoroDT Clemson 100. Xavier LegetteWR South Carolina 104. Theo JohnsonTE Penn State 129. Cole BishopS Utah 159. Braden FiskeDT Florida State 198. Zion Tupuola-FetuiEDGE Washington 202. Khristian BoydDT Northern Iowa 206. Garmon RandolphEDGE Baylor 246. Sione VakiS Utah 1 1 Quote
ScorpionZero Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1:28 ADP Laiatu Latu UCLA EDGE GRADE A R2:60 ADP DeWayne Carter Duke DL GRADE A R3:99 ADP Ja'Lynn Polk Washington WR GRADE A R4:128 ADP Theo Johnson Penn State TE GRADE A R5:158 ADP Dylan McMahon NC State C GRADE A R5:161 ADP Evan Williams Oregon S GRADE A R6:197 ADP Jacob Cowing Arizona WR GRADE B R6:201 ADP Javon Solomon Troy EDGE GRADE B R6:205 ADP Kitan Oladapo Oregon State S GRADE A R7:245 ADP Keith Randolph Jr. Illinois 3 Quote
NewEra Posted February 24 Posted February 24 13 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Thought I'd post this one because it started quite differently and that kind of forced it to go away from some of the standard picks we have seen in these:  28. Laiatu Latu, EDGE, UCLA - He was still there and my golden rule in the draft is never reach down a tier just for need. If you want to reach within a tier of prospects to take a guy you have graded slightly lower because you have a need at the position, fine. There will be questions about Latu's health situation but on the basis that he doesn't get red flagged he is a top tier prospect in this class. The Bills do have expiring contracts at edge as well so while it isn't the #1 need it is a need.  ***TRADE!!! Bills give up #60 (2nd round); #129 (4th round); and #162 (5th round) for #52 (2nd round) and #212 (6th round)*** 52. Xavier Legette, Wide Receiver, South Carolina - People know I am higher than the consensus on Legette but my plan wasn't to trade up for him until the run on receivers started. By #50 ELEVEN receivers were off the board. Legette and Polk were the only two of all the guys we have talked about ad nauseum on this board left. Legette has future #1 receiver ceiling and I don't think Polk does. Polk went two picks later to the Browns making it 13 in the first 54 picks.  100. Dominick Puni, Guard, Kansas - I wasn't necessarily looking to take an offensive lineman here but the way the board fell Puni made most sense. I think end of the third is about his range. He is an older prospect (turns 24 tomorrow) and has played six years of college football. What that means is he is coming out pretty much the finished article in terms of physical profile but I like him technically and while I think he starts in the NFL at guard (maybe making McGovern an option at center if the Bills move on from Mitch Morse?) he played left tackle for Kansas and could definitely get you out of a game there if you needed him to.  ***TRADE!!! Bills give up #159 (5th round); and #212 (6th round) for #151 (5th round)*** 151. Keith Randolph Jnr, Defensive Tackle, Illinois - I started trying to move up to target a receiver (Jermaine Burton was still on the board) but he went right before I was able to find a trade that worked. I decided to still pull the trigger and target Randolph who is a really physical run defender despite not being the biggest guy ever and I think could end up as a starting 1tech in the league.  198. Zion Tupuola- Fetui, Edge, Washington - Another older prospect and not someone I'd necessarily consider value earlier in the draft because he has limited second contract potential and is probably a backup / rotational player rather than a starter. But as a 6th round flier I think he has more natural talent than a lot of the guys left on the board at this spot. I'll use his cheap rookie contract years up as a low price DLine backup then let him walk.  202. Anthony Gould, Wide Receiver, Oregon State - I finally got a second receiver but he isn't really a receiver he is a return specialist. Even though he had 700 yards as a receiver in his final year in college at 5'8 his NFL ceiling is probably an Isaiah McKenzie type returner combined with some gimmick use in the offense. He had two punt return touchdowns in college and followed that up with one in the Shrine Bowl game. The Bills two return man options on the current roster are both expensive. Gould allows you to get cheaper at that spot.  206. Joe Milton, Quarterback, Tennessee - I have picked Milton in almost every one of these I've done. I am clear the Bills should take a swing on a toolsy Quarterback with one of their late day 3 picks in the hope of ending up with a cheap backup if not immediately then certainly after a year on the practice squad as a rookie.  246. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Safety, Texas Tech - This was the first time the value at safety lined up with where I was picking. I actually think he is a fit for the Bills scheme based on my limited exposure to him. He looks like a zone safety. I have seen a fair few people grade him as an early day three pick so in the 7th round he represents value and even if he doesn't become an every down starter his coverage skills make him a legit candidate to play in dime packages.   Not necessarily saying I love this draft, I am disappointed not to get a viable developmental safety and second receiver earlier, but in terms of an interesting draft that fell differently than a lot of the others on here I thought worth posting and talking through.   Latu is an animal.  I really hope he goes to the nfc, if not Buffalo.  1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted February 24 Posted February 24 16 minutes ago, NewEra said: Latu is an animal.  I really hope he goes to the nfc, if not Buffalo.  Isn't anybody afraid that he may "retire" again? 33 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said: 1:28 ADP Laiatu Latu UCLA EDGE GRADE A R2:60 ADP DeWayne Carter Duke DL GRADE A R3:99 ADP Ja'Lynn Polk Washington WR GRADE A R4:128 ADP Theo Johnson Penn State TE GRADE A R5:158 ADP Dylan McMahon NC State C GRADE A R5:161 ADP Evan Williams Oregon S GRADE A R6:197 ADP Jacob Cowing Arizona WR GRADE B R6:201 ADP Javon Solomon Troy EDGE GRADE B R6:205 ADP Kitan Oladapo Oregon State S GRADE A R7:245 ADP Keith Randolph Jr. Illinois Mock draft simulation time is the ONLY time I see @ScorpionZero😂 1 2 Quote
Dr. Who Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Solomon Grundy said: Isn't anybody afraid that he may "retire" again? I'm not, unless we draft him. Then I am instantly worried about the prospect. Quote
ScorpionZero Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Buffalo Receives: 2024: Round 3, Pick 75 2024: Round 4, Pick 111 Chicago Receives: 2024: Round 2, Pick 60 My Selections 28 Brian Thomas Jr. WR |Â LSU 75 Calen Bullock S |Â USC TRADE 99 Cole Bishop S |Â Utah 111 DeWayne Carter DL |Â Duke TRADE 129 Theo Johnson TE |Â Penn State 159 Javon Baker WR |Â UCF 162 Nelson Ceaser EDGE |Â Houston 198 Tanor Bortolini IOL |Â Wisconsin 202 Joe Milton QB |Â Tennessee 206 Braiden McGregor EDGE |Â Michigan 246 Fabien Lovett DL |Â Florida State 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Isn't anybody afraid that he may "retire" again?   As I understand it he never wanted to retire. The doctors at Washington wouldn't clear him to play. They essentially retired him. Hence he entered there transfer portal looking for somewhere he had a shot at getting cleared to play.  Now does the neck injury make him potentially a higher risk of reinjuring and properly being done? Yes. How much higher that risk is will be the question and each team's doctors will be all over his medicals. But if the medicals get the green light I don't see him as any greater risk of retiring through choice than any other player who potentially gets a serious injury.  And as @Dr. Who alludes to above it is not a good edge class in terms of depth. It is the top 3 who are all legit first rounders - Turner, Verse and Latu. Then there is a second tier that probably goes Chop Robinson Brice, Braswell. Then I have tier 3 as Isaac and Elliss. And that is basically it in terms of guys I would be willing to take before late day 3. Probably only 8 edge guys in the top 150 players or so in this class. EDIT: the one other guy I suppose is Darius Robinson. Pure tape evaluation I see him as a 5tech who is too stiff to play as a true edge but he had a great senior bowl week and there probably will be teams who feel he can be a 4-3 end or do some stand up rushing from outside in a 3-4. I get that. It is pure projection though based on the tape. Edited February 24 by GunnerBill 2 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, ScorpionZero said: 1:28 ADP Laiatu Latu UCLA EDGE GRADE A R2:60 ADP DeWayne Carter Duke DL GRADE A R3:99 ADP Ja'Lynn Polk Washington WR GRADE A R4:128 ADP Theo Johnson Penn State TE GRADE A R5:158 ADP Dylan McMahon NC State C GRADE A R5:161 ADP Evan Williams Oregon S GRADE A R6:197 ADP Jacob Cowing Arizona WR GRADE B R6:201 ADP Javon Solomon Troy EDGE GRADE B R6:205 ADP Kitan Oladapo Oregon State S GRADE A R7:245 ADP Keith Randolph Jr. Illinois  Those last two picks alone represent disqualifyingly unrealistic value, innit? Which is to say, I love it, so it must be impossible.  4 minutes ago, ScorpionZero said:  Thanks I hate it 🫢😉 Edited February 24 by Richard Noggin Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 19 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Thanks I hate it  Legette is becoming perhaps my favorite WR for us not named Brian Thomas Jr. (outside of the 3 that will be long gone). I predict he will be a mid to late 1st Rounder by the end of the Pre-Draft process (if he isn't already amongst league circles).  There's zero chance he's there at 60. So landing him and the Best Safety in the Draft in Round 1 and Round 2, in whichever order, would be amazing.  Though I'd like to see another WR with our 4th pick (either in Round 4 or as a trade up into Round 3) and a Defensive Lineman higher than Pick 100. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 24 Posted February 24 25 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Â Legette is becoming perhaps my favorite WR for us not named Brian Thomas Jr. (outside of the 3 that will be long gone). I predict he will be a mid to late 1st Rounder by the end of the Pre-Draft process (if he isn't already amongst league circles). Â There's zero chance he's there at 60. So landing him and the Best Safety in the Draft in Round 1 and Round 2, in whichever order, would be amazing. Â Though I'd like to see another WR with our 4th pick (either in Round 4 or as a trade up into Round 3) and a Defensive Lineman higher than Pick 100. Â I don't like a Safety with the 1st pick AND ONLY 1 DT TOTAL at #100 AND ONLY 1 WR at #60...plus TWO EDGES AND TWO CENTERS WAT THU FUG? Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Â I don't like a Safety with the 1st pick AND ONLY 1 DT TOTAL at #100 AND ONLY 1 WR at #60...plus TWO EDGES AND TWO CENTERS WAT THU FUG? Â I mean, yeah, if we were to see a Safety get picked at 28 - in the moment it would be upsetting. Â But in this unrealistic scenario where we land the #1 Safety in the Draft and my #5 WR within 2 Rounds - I'd be pretty stoked about that. Â But I do agree that another WR should be taken with our 4th pick, a DT should be taken earlier than 100 and another at some point as well. Â I just can't say I totally hate a Draft where we fill holes at Starting WR with Xavier Legette and Starting S with Tyler Nubin. Edited February 24 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
mrags Posted February 24 Posted February 24 Lots of trading involved. Gave up my 3rd and 4th next year pretty early. Then decided I wanted some of those picks back. So when trades were offered to me I opted for next years picks instead. Although still came away with a ton for this year. I’m pretty sure we’ll find at least 1 good WR out of the 2 big ones I drafted. At least 1 of the 3 DTs should work out well with at least bodies for the others. I really like Hicks as starting S but I also see Williams as a S as well. I know he’s listed as a LB but he played S in college. Personally I just don’t see how 220 is thick enough to play LB in this league on a consistent basis. But he would get a shot at either. At worst he would be better than expecting AJ Klein to come off his couch and cover the best TE in the history of the league. Picked up a few depth DEs, along with Milton for his skill set for Joshs future backup for years. And I can’t complete a draft without trying to get Jordan, his highlights are incredible to me. I know a little speed back isn’t what we need, but I can’t help but think he could be extremely useful.  52. Troy Franklin WR Oregon  64. McKinnley Jackson DT Texas A&M  68. Xavier Legette WR South Carolina  75. Jaden Hicks S Washington State  100. James Williams LB Miami (FL)  145. Jordan Jefferson DT LSU  150. Zion Tupuola-Fetui EDGE Washington  159. Tahj Washington WR USC  167. Jawhar Jordan RB Louisville  198. Joe Milton QB Tennessee  206. Andrew Raym OC Oklahoma  219. Gabe Hall DT Baylor  246. Brennan Jackson EDGE Washington State  253. Rayshad Williams CB Texas Tech  2025 CIN 3rd 2025 LAR 3rd 2025 CAR 3rd 2025 TEN 6th 2025 IND 7th 2025 TEN 4th  1 1 Quote
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