Chicken Boo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: He was in Seattle for a cup of coffee. He parlayed that 2 years into a HC job, got to the SB, orchestrated a legendary Defensive flop and then sunk the franchise. His Cowboys Defense gave up 48 points to Love's Packers. Before that, his team was bounced by the 49ers 2 years in a row (Garoppolo, Purdy). Lots of guys have rings. Belichick has 8. He's unemployed. Quinn was not the Commanders 1st choice obviously. John Lynch built the 49ers. We're not getting anywhere. Especially if you're going to diminish all of Quinn's accomplishments, for some strange reason, and focus solely on his failures. Right. John Lynch did it all by himself. No help, guidance or suggestions anywhere along the way. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 2 Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: We're not getting anywhere. Especially if you're going to diminish all of Quinn's accomplishments, for some strange reason, and focus solely on his failures. Right. John Lynch did it all by himself. No help, guidance or suggestions anywhere along the way. Well, his successes have come when he was a DC, not as (defensive) HC. He's replacing another former DC, also a guy "with a ring", who also got a team to the SB--then crashed and burned it and got fired, who was also on his 2nd HC stint despite all of that......and failed miserably. And... Quinn is going into the most unfavorable situation possible for a previously failed HC--he has no QB, a terrible run game, the worst passing game in the NFL ,the Defense is the worst in the NFL. He has 1 player who is a legit threat (McLaurin). Remember when Joe Schoen "helped Beane build the Bills"? How's that working out for the Giants? The current 49ers were built by Lynch and Shanahan---this is accepted fact everywhere. If Peters learned something while under their employ--great. But there's no reason to assume that this will make him fit to overhaul the roster of a bad team with a culture of losing--despite a new owner (ask Carolina how that's going). Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Well, his successes have come when he was a DC, not as (defensive) HC. He's replacing another former DC, also a guy "with a ring", who also got a team to the SB--then crashed and burned it and got fired, who was also on his 2nd HC stint despite all of that......and failed miserably. And... Quinn is going into the most unfavorable situation possible for a previously failed HC--he has no QB, a terrible run game, the worst passing game in the NFL ,the Defense is the worst in the NFL. He has 1 player who is a legit threat (McLaurin). Remember when Joe Schoen "helped Beane build the Bills"? How's that working out for the Giants? The current 49ers were built by Lynch and Shanahan---this is accepted fact everywhere. If Peters learned something while under their employ--great. But there's no reason to assume that this will make him fit to overhaul the roster of a bad team with a culture of losing--despite a new owner (ask Carolina how that's going). He has McLaurin and Dotson at WR. Brian Robinson, Gibson and Rodriguez Jr is a legit RB trio. The most cap room in the league and the #2 pick in the draft (likely Drake Maye). Seems like a prime situation to mold a franchise. 1 Quote
zow2 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 14 hours ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said: Maybe he was the only coach willing to move there. Could be.. He was quite the star football player and track athlete at Salisbury State U.. which is only a couple hours away on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. To me, Quinn is not a bad choice. The ownership group wanted someone with previous head coach experience. From everything you read and hear, Quinn is a solid guy who is smart and definitely a leader of men. The stuff coming out now about Ben Johnson is interesting. Good X's and O's guy but apparently a poor interviewer and lackluster personality. Does not command a room at all. Quote
FilthyBeast Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Desperate hire by a team that apparently no one wanted to touch, even Belichik. And Quinn has to feel less than confident knowing he was probably not plan B or plan C for that matter. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 3 Posted February 3 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10107817-nfl-rumors-ben-johnson-saw-commanders-execs-as-basketball-guys-was-turned-off this is how you get Dan Quinn Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 3 Posted February 3 On 2/2/2024 at 4:01 PM, Chicken Boo said: He has McLaurin and Dotson at WR. Brian Robinson, Gibson and Rodriguez Jr is a legit RB trio. The most cap room in the league and the #2 pick in the draft (likely Drake Maye). Seems like a prime situation to mold a franchise. Dotson? He wasn't great as a rookie and got worse this year. Overhyped. Overdrafted. And those are three good #2 backs. Sadly 3x #2 does not a #1 make. They have cap room and the #2 pick. And almost no players. They have two DTs and McLaurin. The rest of the roster is bad. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Dotson? He wasn't great as a rookie and got worse this year. Overhyped. Overdrafted. And those are three good #2 backs. Sadly 3x #2 does not a #1 make. They have cap room and the #2 pick. And almost no players. They have two DTs and McLaurin. The rest of the roster is bad. They have exactly what the majority of this board was once clamoring for, a committee - and it works. Dotson is a fine receiver. Both he and McLaurin suffered with Howell as QB. Edited February 4 by Chicken Boo 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/2/2024 at 11:01 AM, Chicken Boo said: He has McLaurin and Dotson at WR. Brian Robinson, Gibson and Rodriguez Jr is a legit RB trio. The most cap room in the league and the #2 pick in the draft (likely Drake Maye). Seems like a prime situation to mold a franchise. Quinn had Ryan, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Austin Hooper, Devonta Freeman....... and still finished 7-9. Twice. Quote
4merper4mer Posted February 5 Posted February 5 On 2/3/2024 at 3:43 PM, GunnerBill said: And those are three good #2 backs. Sadly 3x #2 does not a #1 make. It makes six. That crazy bad. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 5 Posted February 5 27 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Quinn had Ryan, Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, Austin Hooper, Devonta Freeman....... and still finished 7-9. Twice. After that Super Bowl, that team and Quinn's tenure was toast. They were never going to recover from that. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 5 Posted February 5 54 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: After that Super Bowl, that team and Quinn's tenure was toast. They were never going to recover from that. he coached for 3 more years--that was the record for those last two years. This guy had all the weapons he will never have in DC....still he flopped. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 New owners, same ol Washington Football Team. Quote
Augie Posted February 5 Posted February 5 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: New owners, same ol Washington Football Team. Somewhere today (Cowherd?) I heard Johnson responded or leaked that they seemed like a bunch of basketball people who didn’t know as much about football as they thought they did. 😂 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Augie said: Somewhere today (Cowherd?) I heard Johnson responded or leaked that they seemed like a bunch of basketball people who didn’t know as much about football as they thought they did. 😂 haha saw that upthread. Commanders fans seem to be saying the issue is that Snyder's right hand-man, Jason Wright, is still employed. Kinda like when the Pegulas came in and kept/promoted Russ Brandon. Quote
Augie Posted February 5 Posted February 5 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: haha saw that upthread. Commanders fans seem to be saying the issue is that Snyder's right hand-man, Jason Wright, is still employed. Kinda like when the Pegulas came in and kept/promoted Russ Brandon. THAT is not a culture you want to continue, for sure. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted February 5 Posted February 5 53 minutes ago, Augie said: THAT is not a culture you want to continue, for sure. As one Commander fan online put it: "We flushed the toilet but there are still stains on the bowl and the bathroom still stinks" It takes time 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 6 Posted February 6 22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: he coached for 3 more years--that was the record for those last two years. This guy had all the weapons he will never have in DC....still he flopped. We get it. You don't like him and think it was a bad hire. Time will tell, right? Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 6 Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: We get it. You don't like him and think it was a bad hire. Time will tell, right? I don't know him. I'm sure he's a nice man. But yes I think, based on his previous work in a far more advantageous situation, he's a bad hire. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 6 Posted February 6 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't know him. I'm sure he's a nice man. But yes I think, based on his previous work in a far more advantageous situation, he's a bad hire. And he may be. I see it as a different scenario than his first stint. I think he's earned a 2nd shot and we'll see where it goes. He might have a Pete Carroll like resurgence, from the *Patriots to the Seahawks. Not likely, but it could happen. Edited February 6 by Chicken Boo Quote
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