MikePJ76 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 4 hours ago, Beck Water said: Valid point. Spagnuolo has had 2 shots as HC: 3 years with the St Louis Rams (spoiler: it was awful. For the first year, he had a QB in Marc Bulger who was probably like the Fitzy of his time? able to succeed in some systems, but at this point older and struggling. Then they drafted Sam Bradford, who looked OK his first season under Pat Shurmer, then totally AFU under Mike McDaniels. Anyway, the team went 1-15, 7-9, 2-14 under Spagnuolo. He got a 2nd shot as interim HC of the Giants, and went 1-3 (and didn't get the job). It may be the feeling on Spagnuolo is that he's a brilliant DC but HC means "promoting him beyond his level of competence". I guess but the rams were awful and He can not be held responsible for that giants season. He did the interim label as a favor more than likely to gettleman. It would be interesting how he would do in washington with a rookie qb and a young OC or a proven OC to install their systems while he runs the defense. maybe he is just a coordinator but you can make the case that quinn is also just a coordinator. Quote
Nextmanup Posted February 1 Posted February 1 I think you'd have to consider DC now the most dysfunctional, messed up, undesirable location in the entire league. Good luck Mr. defensive coordinator. This will be a train wreck. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I think you'd have to consider DC now the most dysfunctional, messed up, undesirable location in the entire league. Good luck Mr. defensive coordinator. This will be a train wreck. seems kind of like Carolina is that. They have the new Dan Snyder and missed big time on their qb. Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 1 Posted February 1 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: lol Commanders.... They lost that game because their D stunk, had stunk all year and had stunk for all but 1 of Quinn's years there. What is he good at? Dallas defense was spotty for sure, but it's not like they're terrible. Wasn't he the defensive coordinator for the Legion of Boom? Edited February 1 by Chicken Boo Quote
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted February 1 Posted February 1 I just thinking of the Bills vs Cowboys. The Bills smashed them in the mouth and didn't stop and Dan Quinn couldn't stop it. Quote
eball Posted February 1 Posted February 1 So, from the mouth of a Washington fan, the positive take on this hire is that Quinn is a “decent” coach who will establish a good culture, but the biggest change in Washington is that they have a real GM. The problem with Rivera was that he had final say on personnel and consistently made bad decisions. This particular fan is ok if Quinn is replaced in three years because the team has a talent issue that will take time to fix. He also acknowledged that the team took a big swing and miss at Ben Johnson and this was the fallback. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 I read 'Commanders' in the thread title as 'Commodores' 🤔 🎵Cause you're once, twice🎶 🎶Two times a head coach🎵 * Check back in a few years, see if I end up rewriting the lyrics. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said: Dallas defense was spotty for sure, but it's not like they're terrible. Wasn't he the defensive coordinator for the Legion of Boom? he was able to (briefly) coach a unit of All Pros, Pro Bowlers and possible HOFers. a struggle no doubt! Seahawks had the #1 scoring D before and after Quinn was there. He turned 2 seasons of that into a HC gig---where he is famous for the most stunning and embarrassing defensive collapse in SB history. He subsequently ran the team in to the ground and was fired early in his last season. How will he turn around Washington?? 1 Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: he was able to (briefly) coach a unit of All Pros, Pro Bowlers and possible HOFers. a struggle no doubt! Seahawks had the #1 scoring D before and after Quinn was there. He turned 2 seasons of that into a HC gig---where he is famous for the most stunning and embarrassing defensive collapse in SB history. He subsequently ran the team in to the ground and was fired early in his last season. How will he turn around Washington?? But he does have Super Bowl experience and a ring, coaching one of the most dominant units in league history. He's dealing with almost the complete opposite situation in Washington. A young team, tons of cap room and the #2 pick in the draft. He wouldn't have been my choice, but given they have Adam Peters at GM, I'm going to trust his judgment. After all, he helped build the current 49er squad. Edited February 2 by Chicken Boo Quote
billsherd Posted February 2 Posted February 2 So Cheifs DC, Bengals DC and Lions OC all will stay with their current team? Any openings left? Quote
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Maybe he was the only coach willing to move there. Quote
Don Otreply Posted February 2 Posted February 2 No one with a rep, and a winning resume wants to join that organization, granted there is new ownership, but the ownership is an unknown entity, and unproven, Snyder’s stench still lingers in DC, Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 2 Posted February 2 6 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: For people wondering why there is so much love for a guy who has mediocre track record I have the answer. He's in the club. You hear this old coach and that old coach say he's a friend of mine. You hear it on the talk shows too. He's one of the boys. Doesn't mean he should get another opportunity to be a HC. At the end of the day its Washington, what do you expect? Decent argument for the Rooney Rule. Quote
FireChans Posted February 2 Posted February 2 6 hours ago, eball said: So, from the mouth of a Washington fan, the positive take on this hire is that Quinn is a “decent” coach who will establish a good culture, but the biggest change in Washington is that they have a real GM. The problem with Rivera was that he had final say on personnel and consistently made bad decisions. This particular fan is ok if Quinn is replaced in three years because the team has a talent issue that will take time to fix. He also acknowledged that the team took a big swing and miss at Ben Johnson and this was the fallback. They just did the whole culture thing with Rivera. He was there John Fox with the Bears to reset the locker room and culture. Now they are resetting the culture…. Again. Tough to watch. Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Terrible hire Even Brady has had more success than this guy. Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 2 Posted February 2 6 hours ago, billsherd said: So Cheifs DC, Bengals DC and Lions OC all will stay with their current team? Any openings left? No openings left. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 hours ago, MikePJ76 said: I guess but the rams were awful and He can not be held responsible for that giants season. He did the interim label as a favor more than likely to gettleman. It would be interesting how he would do in washington with a rookie qb and a young OC or a proven OC to install their systems while he runs the defense. maybe he is just a coordinator but you can make the case that quinn is also just a coordinator. The problem is in three years with the Rams Spags had a 1 win season and a 2 win season. That isn't just bad that is historically awful. I just don't think his personality is suited to the position of Head Coach. In many ways he has the same issues as Leslie Frazier. He is mid 60s. A defensive guy in a league going for offense. Failed (worse than Leslie) in his 1 shot as a HC and is a kind of introverted personality type. That isn't a particularly easy sell to a fanbase. Not that I think Quinn's resume is better by the way. I don't approve of that hire my take on his record is above. Quote
machine gun kelly Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 12 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I think you'd have to consider DC now the most dysfunctional, messed up, undesirable location in the entire league. Good luck Mr. defensive coordinator. This will be a train wreck. He is a solid DC. He has a mess on his hands, and I doubt he can fix it in a reasonable timeframe. Hopefully the ownership group is patient. Sometimes owners need to give someone at least three years to turn a team around. McD as an example took until 2019 when he had a 10-6 season and that’s on,y because the Jets game meant nothing. Otherwise we would’ve been 11-5 Edited February 2 by machine gun kelly Quote
eball Posted February 2 Posted February 2 6 hours ago, FireChans said: They just did the whole culture thing with Rivera. He was there John Fox with the Bears to reset the locker room and culture. Now they are resetting the culture…. Again. Tough to watch. Not saying I agree with it at all…just what a fan told me. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 hours ago, Chicken Boo said: But he does have Super Bowl experience and a ring, coaching one of the most dominant units in league history. He's dealing with almost the complete opposite situation in Washington. A young team, tons of cap room and the #2 pick in the draft. He wouldn't have been my choice, but given they have Adam Peters at GM, I'm going to trust his judgment. After all, he helped build the current 49er squad. He was in Seattle for a cup of coffee. He parlayed that 2 years into a HC job, got to the SB, orchestrated a legendary Defensive flop and then sunk the franchise. His Cowboys Defense gave up 48 points to Love's Packers. Before that, his team was bounced by the 49ers 2 years in a row (Garoppolo, Purdy). Lots of guys have rings. Belichick has 8. He's unemployed. Quinn was not the Commanders 1st choice obviously. John Lynch built the 49ers. Quote
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