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I’ll get excited once I see what they do in the draft. We’ll see if they’ve truly adapted or are just repeating their past approach. That will be evident in where they put the draft capital and how many picks they end up with actually filling the roster.  I know they have holes on the D, but it’s a bit of an indictment of how flawed the past emphasis on that side has been when it comes to results when it matters most and how they are in the position of having so many holes despite the heavy investment. 

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I mean this narrative that they only spend draft capital on defense.... there is some truth to that in terms of first rounders. It is 7 on defense 2 on offense. They did obviously trade a first rounder for a receiver too, so 7 and 3 if you factor that in. 

 

But then it's 9 offense and 5 defense of their 14 day two picks. On day 3 picks it is 15 offense, 13 defense, 2 specialists. 

 

I don't think there has been a problematic over commitment to defense in terms of draft capital. I think the one big issue draft capital wise is they have under emphasised receiver. To have had 6 drafts (since 2018) without taking a receiver in the first two days..... there is only one other team in the NFL that have not picked a receiver in the first two days of the draft in that same period (major kudos points to anyone who can get the other team without googling btw). That has been a major oversight. 

 

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15 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

1 - What do you propose we do to “support the staff”?

 

2 - I don’t think OBD gives a rats a$$ what I think about the team. 
 

I’m done with this team and moving to Thailand 

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You can support and critique at the same time. 

I can want a new HC and wish McDermott success at the same time. Because I am so effusive in my critique of him I have tried harder to point out the good things he does. Ie promoting Babich from within and letting Johnson get the final carries in the Steelers game to reward a player for hard work. 

I hope all fans of our team wish them only the best.  Even during the bleakest of times I can not recall ever rooting for them to lose even if it meant a better draft position. I just can't do that. 

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I'm not concerned at all with the DC or OC signings.  We've already seen the improvement to the offense made by Brady despite being saddled with Dorsey's playbook and concepts, so I expect good things from him.  And Babich has been considered a hot, up-and-coming positional coach for awhile.  Best case scenario? He has some fresh original ideas and playcalling that takes our defense to new heights, while allowing McD added space to focus on overall in game management.  Worst case scenario?  He struggles and McDermott takes over playcalling and we roll out a top-10 defense as we always do during the McD era.

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19 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

They say if you hope for the best but expect the worst, then you will never be disappointed..

The disappointment is where its at!

18 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

This fan base is just so worn out, every year it’s just blind support and hope for so many.  I guess that’s why Pegula feels no pressure to actually win a Super Bowl.  For Terry hope is just as profitable as doing what it takes for Super Bowl level success.

 

But sure, just run it back the same again and hope we get lucky some year.  Sounds like a good plan.  Go Bills.

Fire everyone every year until they win, otherwise it is blind faith that the guys from last year could maybe get lucky.  Are you a guy that fires guys at halftime?

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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

To have had 6 drafts (since 2018) without taking a receiver in the first two days..... there is only one other team in the NFL that have not picked a receiver in the first two days of the draft in that same period (major kudos points to anyone who can get the other team without googling btw).

 

Rams? My mind went there first just because they haven't had a lot of picks in those rounds lately.

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2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Rams? My mind went there first just because they haven't had a lot of picks in those rounds lately.

 

Good guess. Nope. Tutu Atwell was a day 2 pick. 

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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

I mean this narrative that they only spend draft capital on defense.... there is some truth to that in terms of first rounders. It is 7 on defense 2 on offense. They did obviously trade a first rounder for a receiver too, so 7 and 3 if you factor that in. 

 

But then it's 9 offense and 5 defense of their 14 day two picks. On day 3 picks it is 15 offense, 13 defense, 2 specialists. 

 

I don't think there has been a problematic over commitment to defense in terms of draft capital. I think the one big issue draft capital wise is they have under emphasised receiver. To have had 6 drafts (since 2018) without taking a receiver in the first two days..... there is only one other team in the NFL that have not picked a receiver in the first two days of the draft in that same period (major kudos points to anyone who can get the other team without googling btw). That has been a major oversight. 

 

Hmmm...bucs jags bears or giants

 

But I don't know when Chark Godwin and Mooney were drafted and which round. 

 

Edit...just remembered the giants drafted Robinson

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18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He will anyway. Only Diggs, Shakir and Shorter are under contract.

 

Harty too. Everyone on here has forgotten he is still under contract next year. That being said he carries a $5.57M cap hit so I doubt we will keep him for that. My guess is we see a patented Brandon Beane pay cut down to something more reasonable, maybe $3.5M with a $1M void year in 2025 similar to what we did with Tim Settle.

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It's not a new staff. It's the same group of guys that have been on the staff for years. The Bills are doubling down on "their guys," and nothing will change until Josh demands a trade after 2025.

18 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Frazier called the plays. I don't think Babich will. Brady will be what he was the 2nd half of this season. But he will have the spring and summer to install his version of this offense.

I thought it was known that McDermott called the defense

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18 minutes ago, Process said:

Hmmm...bucs jags bears or giants

 

But I don't know when Chark Godwin and Mooney were drafted and which round. 

 

Edit...just remembered the giants drafted Robinson

 

It is the Buccs, yep. Godwin in 2017 was their last high receiver pick.

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Harty too. Everyone on here has forgotten he is still under contract next year. That being said he carries a $5.57M cap hit so I doubt we will keep him for that. My guess is we see a patented Brandon Beane pay cut down to something more reasonable, maybe $3.5M with a $1M void year in 2025 similar to what we did with Tim Settle.

 

True but I think they will straight out cut him. Looks like they think Hines might be back to return.

12 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

 

I thought it was known that McDermott called the defense

 

Nope. Frazier called the defense 2017-2022. This past year was the first time McDermott called the D.

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4 hours ago, Putin said:

I’m done with this team and moving to Thailand 

Or you could always go “Back to the USSR”

 

😇

 

 

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Toward the end of the season I heard guys like Eisen & Cowherd say nobody wants to play the Bills.  Well to be quite honest I personally know 2 teams that love to play the Bills.  I was disappointed we haven't yet moved on from McDermott.  And yes I understand his supporters and the reasoning behind keeping him around for continuity. We as fans vow to keep fighting for our team in our own way.  But I've lately appreciated being involved more in my family than waiting for this team to break my heart for the 50th time.  The motto "one before I die" will always reign true. But so will "family comes first".

 

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Interesting stat. There were 17 changes in Off/Def Coordinators not due to a change in head coach. Of the 17 only 5 were internal hires. Buffalo was 2 of those 5. So excluding the Bills only 3 of 15 were internal. 

 

Internal Hires: BUFx2, CIN, LAR, BAL

External Hires: PHIx2, CHIx2, PIT, TB, GB, MIA, NO, CLE, NYG, JAC

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On 1/31/2024 at 1:51 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

I get it. I get the angst, frustration, sadness, depression, anger and flat out rage at our season ending AGAIN in a Divisional playoff game. I have been a fan since Jim Kelly joined the team in 1986' so I get it.  I was so pissed that Simon had to get in my ass for venting 110X or more in 24 hours, so I understand. This is our team, and we love them. We love them so much they raise us to heaven or send us straight to hell depending on the outcome of a game or a season.

 

We cant not and will not quit.  We have two new coordinators that we all pray will make some needed changes for this coming season that will get us over the hump.  We hope Coach McDermott and Brandon Beane understand we must get Josh better weapons and we must shore up the deficiencies on the DL. Many draft picks, FA acquisitions just haven't panned out.  We will also need at least 1 more safety and maybe a CB or two.

 

But... Brandon Beane really has nailed some draft picks lately, last year especially.  I hope he better understands how to evaluate and scout for what we need and from last years first two picks, I have to believe he has.  McDermott hopefully will let go of the reigns a little and let the new coordinator's do their thing.

 

Faith is a very hard thing to come by in the best of times, and really hard when we are Bills fans.  But we must BILLieve that this coming year we turn the corner and finally get to the big show and win it.

 

 

 

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